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Having never seen the inside of one of these engines, here are a couple pics of one for sale. If you have experience with these, please let me know thoughts on how "clean" or "dirty" you think this engine is...it has 127k miles on it, and I need to make a fairly quick decision on whether to swap or rebuild. Thanks.

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Engine is in a truck that rolled. I also have a video of it running. My goal is to put this engine in and drive it for a long time...I think I could have made it home on my old engine, but it would have been toast.

I'm hesitant to purchase a used engine from the standpoint that when I bought my cruiser less than 10,000 miles ago, it had $5k in receipts from ACC toyota...including having the head off. So, needless to say, I'm skeptical.
 
Hmmmm.... That's an interesting decision.

It would be based on what you plan on doing with the truck for the long haul.

If you intend to the keep the 80 and the 1FZ-FE powerplant, then maybe putting the used engine in and rebuilding your the one in there now when you get home in the comfort of your own garage.

If you are not dedicated to the 1FZ, then drive it home, let it blow, and then swap out.

If you are not dedicated to the 80, fly your family home, sell the 80 right now.
 
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OGBeno said:
Hmmmm.... That's an interesting decision.

If you intend to the keep the 80 and the 1FZ-FE powerplant, then maybe putting the used engine in and rebuilding your the one in there now when you get home in the comfort of your own garage.

If you are not dedicated to the 1FZ, then drive it home, let it blow, and then swap out.


It is an interesting decision. Problem with driving my rig home now, is I already have the engine out :)

So, I either need to swap or rebuild now...at the most cost effective rate. The swap is obviously more cost effective, but I have my concerns.

Thanks for the input on the engine...since I have never seen the inside, I didn't know if that was normal for a 1FZ, or if it looked overly dirty.
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If your going to keep it for a while then factory short block.

Did you ever find out why it lost oil pressure?
 
That (possible) engine looks very much like mine did when I tore it down. I couldn't believe how much of that red/orange crap was everywhere. I thought mine looked dry at the distributor end, that one is about the same.
I wouldn't buy that one until I knew what went south on yours. If yours had all that work done to it recently, you have the advantage of most of the stuff being new or good. $5K in receipts should mean a good thing, unless labor was outrageous.
If you're willing to pull a motor to swap a new one, I would hope you would pull that motor and look at the bottom end. If it just started knocking you have a chance, and it would be cheap compared to a new engine. Can you find a shop that can push in new rod bearings? That would get you home. If somebody said there was $5K in a LC engine, I'd expect it to be reliable.

Edit: well maybe mine looked a little bit worse...
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She runs today though!
 
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So, I took the valve cover and oil pan off, and have attached some pics. The valves are coated with what appears to be mud. The oil filler is coated, and it has about 30 miles on the oil change. In short, the motor is toast. I've put less than 10,000 miles on the truck since purchase, and it's been about 25,000 miles since over $5k was spent at ACC Toyota.


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So, I took the valve cover and oil pan off, and have attached some pics. The valves are coated with what appears to be mud. The oil filler is coated, and it has about 30 miles on the oil change. In short, the motor is toast. I've put less than 10,000 miles on the truck since purchase, and it's been about 25,000 miles since over $5k was spent at ACC Toyota.
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Went thru this with my 60. Purchased it and in the way home it died on me. $3500 later I drive home only a year later to have the motor explode.
 
20 years as a line tech and I've never seen anything exactly like it. My guess is PO neglected engine resulting in initial wear and sludge buildup. The sludge maybe combined with some old left over milkshake residue from the hg that blew not too far back. Or maybe the exotic molybdenum 10w-40 Ocho's mechanic back home put in it just before the trip started desolving the sludge. Combined with lots of hard work hauling the fam, lots of expo gear, a MOTORCYCLE!, cross country, over the Rockies...

I'm pretty confident this engine would not have held together for the whole 2000 mile trip back East.


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Perhaps it blew the HG again? Was the oil milky?
 
The pics are of Ocho's original engine we just pulled. I don't think the contamination is from another blown hg. The sludge is not white, it's dark in color and the consistency isn't light and frothy it's heavy, like a gritty grease.

Unless I hear a better one, the hypothesis I'm going with is the motor was wearing out and packed with sludge before Ocho even buys it, his mechanic then introduces new "moly oil" that maybe has some detergents in it to keep the moly flowing, on the long trip the new oil starts to breakdown the sludge which begins to clog the oil passages and... see pics above


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I think Shawn is correct. It's just hard for me to understand how that was missed when the prior owner redid the HG.

Either way, hopefully the next one is better. Thanks to Shawn and family. They have given my entire family a place to stay, a vehicle to drive, and a garage and help for the swap. It's truly remarkable.
 
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