H55F Transmission Support Brackets

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Does anyone happen to know the length of the DC driveshaft for the early 60-series? Maybe a possible alternative route to a 5-speed conversion for a 40-series. Modify it for a rear drive shaft. I'm wondering if that's what someone did for my BJ42 w/H55F.
 
Living in the Past said:
Five speed or four speed? What year? Best pictures I have of a 84 H41 from a HJ47. The front driveline has a Double Cardan which is next to the transmission. It also has a protective cage part of which is in the picture. Need to double check the crossmember but don't remember any marks. Now if I ever do go to a five speed it should make it interesting to lengthen the front driveline to keep the double Cardan and cage
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H55 with 12HT. Single cardon driveshaft
 
cruiserpilot said:
H55 with 12HT. Single cardon driveshaft
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Not that this is about the double Cardan driveline but year, model, market it's from and was this a factory setup?

The point I was making is the double Cardan with the cage must have cleared the crossmember in the four speed but was it used on a five speed? Got my setup in pieces so not sure if the bottom loop of the cage was above the crossmember or in front of it? @3_puppies do you know? A member was kind enough to send me the missing pieces for the cage but never installed them on the T/T which is sitting on a pallet in another location then the crossmember.
 
The H55F has the transfer case lever pivot mounted a few inches towards the rear on the newly available versions. From looking at the transmission covers, it looks like the early versions of the H55F had the lever mounted in the same place since the covers have the shifter openings off-set.

Does moving the transfer case shifter mount negate the need for the cage with the H55F?
 
SuperDuperCruizer said:
The H55F has the transfer case lever pivot mounted a few inches towards the rear on the newly available versions. From looking at the transmission covers, it looks like the early versions of the H55F had the lever mounted in the same place since the covers have the shifter openings off-set.

Does moving the transfer case shifter mount negate the need for the cage with the H55F?
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I hadn't thought about the relocated boss for the shifter. Adjusting the mounting point for the cage wouldn't be as big a deal as dealing with housing for the reverse gear being in the way. But not sure it would be needed since the crossmember would most likely be under it.

My five speed is going in my 79 FJ40. The axles, transmission, transfer case and drivelines from the HJ47 are going in my 65 FJ45 which should be the same wheel base. Thought I would use the R-H740 and L-H750 L brackets. But now that I know the R-FB530 and L-FB540 are for the 8/80+ FJ45s those might be a better fit. :hmm:
 
Living in the Past said:
Not that this is about the double Cardan driveline but year, model, market it's from and was this a factory setup?

The point I was making is the double Cardan with the cage must have cleared the crossmember in the four speed but was it used on a five speed? Got my setup in pieces so not sure if the bottom loop of the cage was above the crossmember or in front of it? @3_puppies do you know? A member was kind enough to send me the missing pieces for the cage but never installed them on the T/T which is sitting on a pallet in another location then the crossmember.
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I just pulled a 84 60 home, I'll look tomorrow about the cage. My 40 trans is buried in the shop, I don't recall it having a cage. only cages I've seen are on the double cardon shaft.
 
3_puppies said:
I just pulled a 84 60 home, I'll look tomorrow about the cage. My 40 trans is buried in the shop, I don't recall it having a cage. only cages I've seen are on the double cardon shaft.
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I agree the cage was to protect the double Cardan. I don't think any of the mid or short wheel base got the double Cardan. Would have to do some research to see if any of the FJ45s got them. Doesn't look like all HJ47s got them. Mine came off a troopy.:meh:

If you get a chance snap a picture of the cage to show where it's is in comparison to the crossmember. Wondering if with a five speed if the crossmember would serve the same purpose.
 
here are some pics of an 84 60 series, it only attaches to the trans. it is not attached to the crossmember.

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Does this setup have the spacer between the trans & transfer? Interesting... it looks like the crossmember has a larger diameter curve just beneath the DC joint when compared to the 40-series crossmember. The pivot for the transfer lever is further forward than on the 5-speeds too.
 
Looks like 80-83 FJ40.

The one for the early FJ60 below the rusty one has the relief for the DC joint of the driveshaft. The late 40s had a normal driveshaft.
 
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this is a pic of the one from my 82 40, doesn't have the center cutout
 
I think this is correct, 40's bolted up from the bottom and 60's bolted from the top
 
What is the correct name / part number for the "cage". If putting a H55F in a 40 and installing a DC driveshaft would the cage be advisable? Or just overboard?
 
@tstepp920 When I installed the H55 in my 40, I didn't need a double cardan joint for the front, only the rear.
 
David70FJ40 said:
@tstepp920 When I installed the H55 in my 40, I didn't need a double cardan joint for the front, only the rear.
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I've installed one in my chassis. Haven't dealt with the driveshafts yet, but I'm hoping that since it's staying at stock spring height I can just modify the stock non-dc one for the rear
 
David70FJ40 said:
@tstepp920 When I installed the H55 in my 40, I didn't need a double cardan joint for the front, only the rear.
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Any pics of your rear driveline angle?? What springs are you running??

I was just about to start me h55f split case install at the end of the month... but my hip had other plans.....
 
Morse_FJ40 said:
Any pics of your rear driveline angle?? What springs are you running??

I was just about to start me h55f split case install at the end of the month... but my hip had other plans.....
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I have not installed my H55F yet. I am just trying to plan everthing out and make sure I haven't overlooked something or considered all options. Once I start I don't want to say "Oh poo" I need "X" and it is NLA
 
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