Have never checked them. Just have the stock fuel system, no mods, and no shielding.
Is the fuel temperature available via OBD2, or does one need to install a sensor.
Gas tank building excessive pressure & fuel smell. Dangerous for sure! Why does this happen? (3 Viewers)
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Is the fuel temperature available via OBD2, or does one need to install a sensor.
Another data point.
I was wheeling up Silver Canyon in Bishop, CA (just like another person on this thread). Conditions:
Then I searched and found all these topics. crazy.
I was wheeling up Silver Canyon in Bishop, CA (just like another person on this thread). Conditions:
- Elevation starting at ~4000 ASL to 11000 ASL in a very short distance. (90% of the ascent was in ~9mi, total uphill driving about 20mi to the Patriarch Bristlecone Pine grove).
- Starting temperatures near 100 deg F at the base.
- Starting fuel was about 1/2 tank, maybe a bit more.
Then I searched and found all these topics. crazy.
Which purge valve? Did you also replace evap lines? Purge valve cannot build enough pressure to actuate if lines are cracked. Mine were replaced with the valve.
Super dumb question ... is there any fuel additive that could be used as a band-aid? I would be happy to just dump an $8 bottle of something in my tank when I know I'm going to be headed to conditions likely to result in this condition.
Have you had issues with gas vapors?
Yup. Stong smell, pressure and vapors. Never had gas flowing from the fill neck though!
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If you get down to South Denver drop by, I'll take a peak.
I'd encourage you the monitor engine temp meantime.
Anyone with this issue come on by.
Did you get engine temp during this trip?
I did not. The factory gauge was in the normal position. I know that means that the engine can be running hot, but not fully overheating. An OBD2 monitor is probably a good investment.
The purge valve (9091012268) you listed as the repair for your vehicle is on the vapor canister. That is what I replaced 4 years ago when my canister was making horrible groaning noises after long drives. I've also replaced the short lines on the vapor canister to the purge valve and from the canister to the intake manifold and to the air intake tube.
guardcompany
Shea
I would like to know this as well.
I would expect that under those conditions and my LC would do the same running E10, actually think it has on a trip up Silver Canyon.
If I could get non-ethanol over there would expect no issue on that trip.
Maybe we need to try a fuel chiller, for those running a CO2 tank for tire inflation this looks interesting.
Fuel Chilling System
Thanks, I do use that one in Silverton for San Juan trips. This Silver Canyon is out of Bishop, CA and haven't found one in that area.
Thanks, @2001LC - I'll be making the trip from FTC to Silverton next week and I'll see about monitoring temps. I'll be towing a 4000# camper the whole way. I have the OBD Fusion app, pretty sure it can log that data. May try the low octane fuel as well.
guardcompany
Shea
We should be getting some pretty good data points in the next 2 weeks with everyone heading to the mountains, myself included. I'll be doing some last minute vacuum and switch replacement right before I leave. I'll make sure to monitor engine temp throughout the days.
James Bentley
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For those wanting to post numbers here (Fuel Trims, Temps, etc) and don't yet have an OBDII Adapter (bluetooth) and App, which ones will "log" or "record" data?
I only plan to use it with my 2004 LX and my iOS (Apple) devices.
I do realize that TorquePro is still Android only.
Has anyone purchased a dedicated Android tablet just for the TorquePro app (what device do you use)?
But its abilities/features make me feel like a kid in a candy store:
I only plan to use it with my 2004 LX and my iOS (Apple) devices.
I do realize that TorquePro is still Android only.
Has anyone purchased a dedicated Android tablet just for the TorquePro app (what device do you use)?
But its abilities/features make me feel like a kid in a candy store:
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That is so cool^^^^
If we can start collect these data point, especially engine water temp. It will get us just that much closer to understanding this issue.
If engine not running to spec, will chase our tail.
So concentrating first on:
Engine temp, then fuel trims is very helpful.
RPM and gear vehicle in at time, gives clues to driving condition.
OAT and altitude, seem too play really a big roll here.
CAT temp is 06-07 only IIRC.
Forget Fuel temps.
They'd would be great to have. But it is not available. We all need to add a device(s) to read it. If device added, I'd want to see both fuel going up and down stream to compare. Going into fuel rail. Coming out fuel rail (return line). But most of all, fuel as it enters fuel tank from return line. Since heat shield seem to give a great deal of benefit. It's clearly points to CAT is the major heat source. Which is hotter?? up or downstream would be interesting info.
Another thing I'm looking at in inspection now, is the gas cap door area. It's a clue if gunk, that vehicle is boil fuel building more pressure than system can handle.
If we can start collect these data point, especially engine water temp. It will get us just that much closer to understanding this issue.
If engine not running to spec, will chase our tail.
So concentrating first on:
Engine temp, then fuel trims is very helpful.
RPM and gear vehicle in at time, gives clues to driving condition.
OAT and altitude, seem too play really a big roll here.
CAT temp is 06-07 only IIRC.
Forget Fuel temps.
They'd would be great to have. But it is not available. We all need to add a device(s) to read it. If device added, I'd want to see both fuel going up and down stream to compare. Going into fuel rail. Coming out fuel rail (return line). But most of all, fuel as it enters fuel tank from return line. Since heat shield seem to give a great deal of benefit. It's clearly points to CAT is the major heat source. Which is hotter?? up or downstream would be interesting info.
Another thing I'm looking at in inspection now, is the gas cap door area. It's a clue if gunk, that vehicle is boil fuel building more pressure than system can handle.
I've downloaded Lifestyle Overlands data, tried the torque Pro app and Samsung tablet; problem for me is the getting PID specific programming info that work on our ISO based OBDII protocol; and then learning curve spending the time to program all that into the app; too much work for me. If blue driver has all that baked in and is plug & play even at $99 it seems "easier" option.
I have bluedriver with my 03...it work great for what it picks up but is very dependent on year of vehicle and what data it can pick up. I wish the PID programming was easier too as I would go that route but instead got bluedriver. It give me some extra info (fuel trims, engine coolant temp) but hard to tell if it's been gamechanger data. Still happy I have it to see CEL/clear codes on trail if needed to get to civilization kind of thing, so it's more of an insurance tool for me that a data tool.
