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RUSH55 said:
We were pretty certain the splines were engaged being that the distance remaining was roughly that of the shaft end that engages the pilot bearing.
If however, the splines were not engaged on account of me telling him to use first gear and if he switches it to fourth gear and it just magically falls in place, I will deliver to him AND you the 10 year bottle of Whistle Pig Bourbon

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If I can magically produce a 4th gear , I would deserve this Whistlepig, but maybe I can try 3rd. With that said, I am already in the splines, will this somewhow help me navigate the pilot bearing in?
 
J Mack said:
I don't believe that is the problem, it will be roughly four times easier if he puts it in high gear versus first but still The splines are either engaged or they are not.
Still waiting to hear if the throw out bearing was facing the right direction...
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Ahhh the TO bearing quick vid was just for showing that it slides on, NOT to show the orientation which is WRONG in the vid. I think it would be a quite a challenge to put in on backwards....
 
Tomba said:
try putting the slave cylinder in and depress the pedal while pushing which I think may do the trick...
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Maybe yes maybe no....
If the clutch is perfectly centered "with the alignment tool" then as soon as you apply pressure to the pressure plate the clutch ( along with the transmission input shaft) will move down (assuming my theory about gravity is correct) and you will lose your alignment. Again I am assuming that the clutch is aligned properly to begin with.
 
J Mack said:
Maybe yes maybe no....
If the clutch is perfectly centered "with the alignment tool" then as soon as you apply pressure to the pressure plate the clutch ( along with the transmission input shaft) will move down (assuming my theory about gravity is correct) and you will lose your alignment. Again I am assuming that the clutch is aligned properly to begin with.
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At least I didn’t lie to him about that part 😅

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RUSH55 said:
At least I didn’t lie to him about that part 😅
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I'm clearly late to the party and don't know any facts..
Do you know if he used the correct centering tool? Have you been able to confirm the clutch itself isn't flipped around backwards by looking at any of the pictures?
 
J Mack said:
Maybe yes maybe no....
If the clutch is perfectly centered "with the alignment tool" then as soon as you apply pressure to the pressure plate the clutch ( along with the transmission input shaft) will move down (assuming my theory about gravity is correct) and you will lose your alignment. Again I am assuming that the clutch is aligned properly to begin with.
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it is aligned as the alignment tool slides in/out easily. plastic gives more then the steel input shaft. Its pretty maddening as I am soo close. The good news is I am getting very good at setting it all up and moving the trans in /out of position :) , but that goes into the nobody gives a s*** file...
 
When you get a chance will you zoom in on your pilot bearing and send a new picture for me please
 
I'm out in the shop on my cell phone but that bearing looks hammered to me.
 
Yeah that looks way better, I'm in the office for lunch looking on a real computer.
 
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If we look at your input shaft we can see how far it goes into the pilot bearing, can you measure that distance and tell me if that is more or less than the distance you are coming up short when you are trying to install?
 
Tomba said:
that input portion is about an 1', I am out a bit over that at 1 1/4"
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That is what it thought I remember you saying, if those numbers are accurate then it sounds like you're splines are being held up in the clutch disk.
That section on your input shaft should be less than an inch.
 
J Mack said:
That is what it thought I remember you saying, if those numbers are accurate then it sounds like you're splines are being held up in the clutch disk.
That section on your input shaft should be less than an inch.
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I'll re-check that measurement again. I checked the clutch on my old engine and it had the clutch side w / the raised flange facing the rear of the motor and that's how i installed it and, IIRC that's the correct orentation.
 
Just trying to help you identify exactly where it is being held up, if that bearing is roughly 1/2 of an inch thick and that is 1/8 of an inch of shaft past that. It would only account for the last 5/8 of an inch before the transmission mates to the bell housing. If that makes sense.
If you are an inch and a quarter away then the input shaft and pilot bearing are not your issue...
 
J Mack said:
Just trying to help you identify exactly where it is being held up, if that bearing is roughly 1/2 of an inch thick and that is 1/8 of an inch of shaft past that. It would only account for the last 5/8 of an inch before the transmission mates to the bell housing. If that makes sense.
If you are an inch and a quarter away then the input shaft and pilot bearing are not your issue...
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Although not the best photo, the clutch is not dead on center. the alignment tool does not go in as easily as I thought. much easiler in the old motor.... An interesting puzzle that is for sure

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