Delancy's NEW 76 PIGGY ???

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Delancy said:
I screwed up, big time.....

Last few months haven't been much for thorough thinking and in a very simple email reply, made a mistake communicating on the rear shocks.

Glenn had them right, questioned a statement I made twice even, and in haste and lack of ability to think straight, I twice confirmed the wrong thing.

So, I have rear shocks that are 3" too short. Should've been what we originally decided on, being 23.38", and I goofed.

They're gorgeous and would work perfect on a stock height rig, if anyone is interested.

Know Glenn can't stretch them but waiting to see what he may be able to offer, then they'll be available.
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I happen to need some new rear shocks for my Piggy riding on factory springs!
Want to PM me on specifics?
Thanks Christa...
 
tucker74 said:
Why are you trying to order stock parts here?
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To clarify, the down pipe was part of the original 3F manifold purchase.

Sold to Ward, thinking I wouldn't need and not for much money, which he sold back to me for the same.

tucker74 said:
All you need is the two flanges, any exhaust shop can fab up the Y-pipes and tie it in to your existing system.
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I know.

Originally was seeking an elegant solution, and one that the rationale was sound on, as far as the 7X downpipe fitting.

tucker74 said:
Slee had these flanges in stock when I did the 3FE swap in my 40.
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Tried 3FE and it's too small.

tucker74 said:
There were no stock 3F down pipes for a FJ55
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I know you were snickering as you typed that.

Am I right?

What I assumed when thinking this out way back when was 7X tolerances were very similar to the 55s.

What I now know for fact is, that was a valid assumption, albeit the difference that is pretty major, as far as compatible parts on the firewall, is the gargantuan lip the Pig.

What I suspect will be the issue is the 2F/3F sits higher in between the rails in the Pig, than a 3F would in the 7X.....which may be an issue just bolting the downpipe up and having exhaust ran back from it.

tucker74 said:
don't re-invent the wheel man :bang:
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If I were a smarter man, I'd clip the one line of the chorus that pertains, but I'm not, so wait for it. You'll know what I'm talking about.



PabloCruise said:
Want to PM me on specifics?
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They're not Rancho's, Monroe's, or OMEs.....

Does that scare you?
 
tucker74 said:
Would not of guessed this tidbit....
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Us, either.

It's always been my understanding that 3FE manifolds are late 2F head compatible, and they may be, I dunno. Based on that information, would've assumed 3FE down pipe would work, yet not even the flanges do.

Another interesting tidbit, is the difference in the 3F manifold ports, compared to the late 2F head, which is said to be the same as 3F. The limitations of port matching were constrained by the 3F inlets/outlets, because of the size disparity.

What'd this gain?

Probably 1/32 HP, but it may prove valuable knowledge in coming years, if late US 2F manifolds fatigue like earlier F/2F, since the 3F manifolds and carbs are readily available, the carb costing new about double rebuild of a 2F.

2F diaphragms are now NLA, so might be viable options for 60 crowd intent on keeping the 2F.

3F heads, albeit in OE form are spec'd for lower octane fuel, with differences in combustion chamber and non-hardened valve seats, are available, too.

All that and.....I've not had the best experience with aftermarket exhausts, be them high quality (translated-$$$$) pre-fabbed, custom or ma and pa shop built on anything from domestics, diesels, quads, 80 series. They've all prematurely failed of failed to deliver.

Realize there's little choice from either the downpipe back, mebbe even the y pipe back, remains to be seen, but directives given will be "quality and quiet".

So, all the above was prolly unnecessary, I realize.

I was snickering thinking about your snickering, and took no offense, since I do deserve it.

Don't recall the thread, but was lambasted not too long ago with similar sentiment, and there's little to offer in defense......except:

Fully intend to DD this Pig, sharing duty with an 80 I picked up a couple of months back.

While I'll probably have more than a newer model between the both (maybe two new ...) but it's worth it knowing many, many years of service can be expected.

No one seems to understand, not family, friends, or acquaintances.

One instance, was questioned about the 80 by a high school acquaintance, now dad on my son's team. He'd asked about 80 and where the FJC was, and could not believe that I'd prefer this over the newer, or that I would sell the newer.

Another, it trickled back that I must be having financial problems, same reason as above, and I'd mentioned my elation to a buddy that Mrs. D has asked why she wasn't driving an LC (it just pisses her off when I try to explain that, essentially, her GX IS an LC) and the she preferred the 100 over the 200.

I was ecstatic, having nothing to do with the cost disparity, but guess that wasn't what the buddy took out if it and sure wasn't what whomever he'd talk to interpreted.

Not that I give two chits, 'cause I don't, but of all places on the face of this planet, I'd think you all would understand, at least, the joy of DDing a Pig, as well the sense of accomplishment, responsibility and pride that comes with (what normal folks may see as undeserving) perpetuating this rare, odd beast, however the form evolves.
 
Delancy said:
Not that I give two chits, 'cause I don't, but of all places on the face of this planet, I'd think you all would understand, at least, the joy of DDing a Pig, as well the sense of accomplishment, responsibility and pride that comes with (what normal folks may see as undeserving) perpetuating this rare, odd beast, however the form evolves.
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I got the same thing. Sold my 04 4 runner to pick the pig up. Looking back, I wouldn't change a thing.
 
Delancy said:
I'd think you all would understand, at least, the joy of DDing a Pig, as well the sense of accomplishment, responsibility and pride that comes with (what normal folks may see as undeserving) perpetuating this rare, odd beast, however the form evolves.
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Oh yeah!

If they did not douche the roads w/ mag chloride (evil liquid that will completely dissolve a Pig into rust in one winter), I would be driving mine now.
But alas, she hibernates until the roads are free of corrosive compounds...
 
find an industrial radiator shop; like for stationary engines(generators and whatnot)
 
I recalled why this hadn't been determined before.

Have to position engine back in bay, with pulley and 3FE fan to check tolerance between fan and radiator, since expecting there to be some real estate battle between the two.

Hopefully engine will be back in today to see what we've got, then can go from there.

Pretty sure I have an OE 2F radiator that's be rodded and pressure tested by the local shop that stated it to be healthy, furthering with it wasn't worth recoring, suggesting aftermarket before that were considered, since not an accurate restoration.

If that is the case, run the OE radiator or opt for newer technology with aftermarket or custom option?
 
Delancy said:
Thinking that's for 40s?

Though there were differences between 40/55/60s, but don't recall what.

Pretty cool that the condenser, fans, harness, whatever else can be ordered in one unit.
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If I remember correctly this one would bolt into my 1976 when I called and asked about the bolt spacing.

But after talking to them about my needs I went with a larger universal fit and made mounts, the one I bought had the fan, shroud and harness all as one unit.
 
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