BP-51 for the 80 Series

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Seriously? cruiseroutfit

I have been planning on dumping cash into the bodyshop to fill the ‘OEM’ roof rack, rear heater holes and drop a new or sublet the front and rear glass first... but the wife and I delayed a trip to the Redwoods this summer because she figured it would take-out some $3K from the build budget but opportunity and desire help determine logistics...

It would be cool.

I kid you not, the wife has given me two years to get this rig built and start out to witness the country otherwise she said she’ll have divorce papers served.

So long as the offer stands I just might take you up on it. Utah is a stretch for a lift but I am driving down to the San Fernando Valley to pick-up a patch for the headliner. So its not really about cost with me per se.

Logistics are interesting. Pretty cool people are sure to be found along the way.

It is cheaper to build your rig
 
We have two sizes, 2-2.5" lifts and the 3-5" L variant. Both in stock

Reservoir mounts are a separate kit but cost is negligible
5" if they are the same length of traditional L shocks .?

I had to add great deal of spacers while I was running L with my front 4" comp OME .. IMHO traditional L shocks are good to top 3"

I agree with @Tapage. OME sport L shocks are too short for anything over 3” of lift if up and down travel is to be close to balanced. How can one shock be marketed and sold to use with lifts from 3” up to 5”? I would be much more inclined to drop 2 grand on shocks if they allowed me to choose my down travel limit.
 
I agree with @Tapage. OME sport L shocks are too short for anything over 3” of lift if up and down travel is to be close to balanced. How can one shock be marketed and sold to use with lifts from 3” up to 5”? I would be much more inclined to drop 2 grand on shocks if they allowed me to choose my down travel limit.

The L shocks have been successfully used on 3-5" kits in thousands of application. Would it be nice if OME (and other manufacturers) made a 0", 1", 2", 3", 4", 5" shock? Of course, in the mean time we deal with what they sort as a "best" marketable offering. If there was enough demand for a L+ shock, they would absolutely make it. As for offering customer specified lengths, I don't see that happening anytime soon as demand for their existing offerings has their assembly going full speed. King and others can build a custom spec bypass shock exactly to your specs in the $3k range. The external bypasses will require additional modifications for clearance but you'll have to sort that.
 
I'm surprised they dont make these adjustable from in the cab like Rancho used to do. Would be a great feature if they did.

I suspect we'll see such a thing ;)
 
The L shocks have been successfully used on 3-5" kits in thousands of application. Would it be nice if OME (and other manufacturers) made a 0", 1", 2", 3", 4", 5" shock? Of course, in the mean time we deal with what they sort as a "best" marketable offering. If there was enough demand for a L+ shock, they would absolutely make it. As for offering customer specified lengths, I don't see that happening anytime soon as demand for their existing offerings has their assembly going full speed. King and others can build a custom spec bypass shock exactly to your specs in the $3k range. The external bypasses will require additional modifications for clearance but you'll have to sort that.
With 5” springs and “L” shocks I had 2” of down travel left in the shock. Did I get down the trail? Yes? Was it tuned properly? No.
 
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The L shocks have been successfully used on 3-5" kits in thousands of application. Would it be nice if OME (and other manufacturers) made a 0", 1", 2", 3", 4", 5" shock? Of course, in the mean time we deal with what they sort as a "best" marketable offering. If there was enough demand for a L+ shock, they would absolutely make it. As for offering customer specified lengths, I don't see that happening anytime soon as demand for their existing offerings has their assembly going full speed. King and others can build a custom spec bypass shock exactly to your specs in the $3k range. The external bypasses will require additional modifications for clearance but you'll have to sort that.
With 5” springs and “L” shocks I had 2” of down travel left in the shock. Did I get down the trail? Yes? Was it tuned properly? No.
 
With 5” springs and “L” shocks I had 2” of down travel left in the shock. Did I get down the trail? Yes? Was it tuned properly? No.

And again, if/when there is enough demand for an L+, we can get them to make them. We've sold 4 and 5" coils for 10+ years. We've sold about 2% as many of those as we have J/3" coils for 80's. When a customer orders a suspension from us we go through a thorough build sheet and discussion and expected down travel with a true measured 5" suspension is high on our list along with the many other items that need adjusting/replacing/extending on a 5" setup.
 
And again, if/when there is enough demand for an L+, we can get them to make them. We've sold 4 and 5" coils for 10+ years. We've sold about 2% as many of those as we have J/3" coils for 80's. When a customer orders a suspension from us we go through a thorough build sheet and discussion and expected down travel with a true measured 5" suspension is high on our list along with the many other items that need adjusting/replacing/extending on a 5" setup.
And with the recent rise in popularity of certain coil springs that offer us a greater range of travel, a BP-51 that is long enough to allow us to take advantage this, mostly down travel, would probably sell considering the lingering confidense in ARB products.
 
It would make it a lot easier, especially for the rear shocks on most SUV's which are fairly hard to access without crawling underneath the rig. Fronts aren't too big of a deal to reach in their on most rigs.

I'm not sure how they'll do it (given the way the shocks currently adjust) but I know it's on the radar. I'd absolutely love it paired up to the LINX in my 200 :cool:
 
And with the recent rise in popularity of certain coil springs that offer us a greater range of travel, a BP-51 that is long enough to allow us to take advantage this, mostly down travel, would probably sell considering the lingering confidense in ARB products.

Look, it turns out the current BP-51's are selling just fine.

While there may be "lingering confidence" to some/you?, simply put the OME products as a whole are still selling in greater volume than ever before both in the US an abroad. They now have two US warehouses receiving containers weekly to meet the demand in the Toyota realm and our sales in the recent years certainly parallel that trend. Keep in mind the US is just 5-10% of their global market.

As for confidence, I've literally driven around the world on their products, twice, zero failures. I don't need any more confidence in their offerings. They don't claim to build a rock-crawling or desert racing suspension and we certainly wouldn't offer it as such. If one is trying to use their components to do so... they will be disappointment and should direct said "lingering confidence" at whomever is selling them such a thing. Are there other fantastic options out there? You bet! I've also driven the length of the Americas on Icon components, desert raced with Kings and driven my personal vehicles that have everything from BP-51 to Bilsteins. There simply isn't a one-brand fits-all solution and I'm fully aware of that, but confidence is earned and some of those other shocks I've spent time with need far more rebuilding then the OME stuff, that is confidence ;)

The fact you'd increase your "confidence" at the option of a longer shock is laughable, they (ARB) don't sell suspension kits for the 80, they (ARB) sell components. They leave it to their end retailers (like myself) to assemble kits based on their own experiences. Thus the confidence/length relationship has nothing to do with ARB corporate. Perhaps your not confident with myself and the many retailers using the "L" in kits (some advertising even 6" kits with the L) is valid, take that up with whomever you buy your OME parts from directly. If it's us, my phone number is easy to find :D
 
As I’m sitting here at the SLC airport, I can’t help but be upset I can’t visit @cruiseroutfit on this trip

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You hopping right back on a plane? The museum is just a few minutes away :D
 
I'm not sure how they'll do it (given the way the shocks currently adjust) but I know it's on the radar. I'd absolutely love it paired up to the LINX in my 200 :cool:
It would be cool if they did it with air like the rancho shocks used to. Especially since they sell air lockers they could just make it a add on to the arb on board air system. I have a old in cab controller on one of my cruisers with rancho shocks and I'm always changing the settings when on the trail. In cab controlled or not, adjustable shocks on a 80 would be very useful since people load them up for trips but unload them for cruising around town.
 
@cruiseroutfit can I get a quote on these shocks? I will end up with a roughly 3 inch lift all said and done

MAP is $484.50 + fitting kits. Contact us at the shop for applicable specials :D

Kits with coils, etc are shown here:
Cruiser Outfitters
We can also assemble kits with Slee, Slinky, Dobinson, etc per customer selection
 
I agree with @Tapage. OME sport L shocks are too short for anything over 3” of lift if up and down travel is to be close to balanced. How can one shock be marketed and sold to use with lifts from 3” up to 5”? I would be much more inclined to drop 2 grand on shocks if they allowed me to choose my down travel limit.

Hydraulic bump stops would be nice :flipoff2:
 
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