285/70R17?
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Road trip smaller spare problem.
I'm about to head to Lake Superior where a blizzard just hammered with snow and the forecast is for brutal cold. @MCtree generously gave me his winter tires from his Alaska trip and I have 4 of them mounted on the fugly candy apple red Fuel wheels that came with the truck. I got the truck with less than 10k miles on it but some kid put those red wheels and a snorkel on it and threw away the stock lug nuts. Fortunately, the truck came with the stock wheels and I put the Terra Ridge Grapplers on those. I tried to sell the red wheels with the tires and got no bites. Problem is I only have 5 stock wheels and 4 fugly red ones. Of course my spare is under the truck on a stock wheel. Now to the size difference.
The Ridge Grapplers are AT 285 65 18 and the Blizzak's are P275 65 18
Calculator difference is:
Size 1/R AT285 65 18
Size 2/R P275 65 18
Size 1 Size 2
Diameter 32.6" 32.1" -1.5%
Width 11.2" 10.8" -3.6%
Sidewall 7.3" 7" -4.1%
Circum. 102.3" 100.7" -1.5%
Revs/Mile 619 629 +10
Question is: Do I throw the extra Blizzak unmounted in my trailer for the trip and hope I don't have a blowout? Can I run 50 miles with the larger Grappler spare until I can get to a place to mount and balance the Blizzak 5th tire?
Or do I have my spare dismounted and put a Blizzak on it for the tirp? I'm out mounting and balancing X2.
I'm about to head to Lake Superior where a blizzard just hammered with snow and the forecast is for brutal cold. @MCtree generously gave me his winter tires from his Alaska trip and I have 4 of them mounted on the fugly candy apple red Fuel wheels that came with the truck. I got the truck with less than 10k miles on it but some kid put those red wheels and a snorkel on it and threw away the stock lug nuts. Fortunately, the truck came with the stock wheels and I put the Terra Ridge Grapplers on those. I tried to sell the red wheels with the tires and got no bites. Problem is I only have 5 stock wheels and 4 fugly red ones. Of course my spare is under the truck on a stock wheel. Now to the size difference.
The Ridge Grapplers are AT 285 65 18 and the Blizzak's are P275 65 18
Calculator difference is:
Tire Size Comparison Calculator
Size 1/R AT285 65 18
Size 2/R P275 65 18
Size 1 Size 2
Diameter 32.6" 32.1" -1.5%
Width 11.2" 10.8" -3.6%
Sidewall 7.3" 7" -4.1%
Circum. 102.3" 100.7" -1.5%
Revs/Mile 619 629 +10
Question is: Do I throw the extra Blizzak unmounted in my trailer for the trip and hope I don't have a blowout? Can I run 50 miles with the larger Grappler spare until I can get to a place to mount and balance the Blizzak 5th tire?
Or do I have my spare dismounted and put a Blizzak on it for the tirp? I'm out mounting and balancing X2.
Yes. At 35mm offset.
There's a slight rub in reverse. The shop said that the strut spacer should fix that, but if not, I'll get the heat gun out.
@Dunbar I'm not an expert, but I would think it would depend on how much time you'll be off road. If on road, I would personally keep the normal spare, maybe consider a patch kit, but I think having the spare tire within 2% of the circumfrance and especially having the fifth Blizzak with you (unmounted) in case of a blow out would be just fine.
If staying on road, I think the probability of a blow out is very small on good tires.
I've lived in parts of the world where a tire change needed to happen practically once a road trip. But with modern All Terrain tires on American roads, my kids have never seen me swap tires on the side of the road. I can't remember a tire puncture at all in a Toyota SUV.
I think with an unmounted Blizzak in the trailer with you, you're more prepared than the vast majority of other drivers.
If staying on road, I think the probability of a blow out is very small on good tires.
I've lived in parts of the world where a tire change needed to happen practically once a road trip. But with modern All Terrain tires on American roads, my kids have never seen me swap tires on the side of the road. I can't remember a tire puncture at all in a Toyota SUV.
I think with an unmounted Blizzak in the trailer with you, you're more prepared than the vast majority of other drivers.
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No problemo. We've lost 13 tires in my group over the years. That difference is so in the noise that the car practically won't care. We've gone it so far to replace someone's 37 tire with 35. Got off the trail and home just fine.
Where tire size really makes a difference is in vehicle dynamics and traction control systems which is not what makes a difference in getting off the trail and getting home.
I added two more photos to more clearly show the before and after. When I bought the vehicle, it came with undersized 275/60/R18s, so the difference is a little more dramatic than it would normally be.
Great looking cruiser! Any issues with the tires? Still run good? I am looking at 315 or 305's. Currently have 285x75x17....
Curious what roof bars are you running? Also are your headlights stock? They look smoked-ish...
Looks great! Do you have any info on the fender flares you have installed? Curious to know if those are something you purchased aftermarket. Thanks!
Headlights were aftermarket and I’ve thrown them away. Roof rack is gamaviti legs with front runner bars
So I'm looking for a set of hard second row seat back protectors given the proclivity of the kids trying to claw their way to the front seat (not to mention hair...). Any options for a 2021 LC200?
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Pretty much any stock 5-lug tundra, sequoia, LC or LX wheel will work equally well.
@Evanike , the fender flares were, I believe, a port installed option (PIO).
Bushwacker make a similar aftermarket flare that looks similar. Bushwacker Fender Flares | RealTruck - https://realtruck.com/c/exterior-accessories/fender-flares/f/bushwacker/
Bushwacker make a similar aftermarket flare that looks similar. Bushwacker Fender Flares | RealTruck - https://realtruck.com/c/exterior-accessories/fender-flares/f/bushwacker/
Thanks for the reply! Looks like the link you sent doesn’t show any 200 series specific options, even when filtering. Let me know if you are seeing something different!
If I set my vehicle to a 2010 LC, I get one option.
Here's a longer thread on Mud: Is anyone making fender flares for 16-18 LCs ? - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/is-anyone-making-fender-flares-for-16-18-lcs.1008168/
That filtering worked, thank you! I have a 2016, I’m assuming these would also work
Alright.. narrowed my next tire size to 34s, specifically 285/75/17s. But going back and forth between these two tire choices and could use some recommendations:
Falken AT4W C load
BFG KO3 E load
Use case: The truck is mostly stock, unloaded, sees occasional offroading (nothing extreme, no moab). Coming from 285/65/18 KO2 E load that are nearly new, but I could use a bit of more comfort due to having a bad back.
Wondering if going with KO3s and increase in size will provide comfort improvement from a taller sidewall (+ lower recommended tire pressure) OR is the only way to get more comfort is to go AT4Ws in C load while compromising little in tire strength.
The other two concerning factors are reviews of Falkens poor stopping distance in snow and additional 5 lbs per tire compared to KO3s (68 vs 63 lbs), but also seem to have thicker/taller tread.
Falken AT4W C load
BFG KO3 E load
Use case: The truck is mostly stock, unloaded, sees occasional offroading (nothing extreme, no moab). Coming from 285/65/18 KO2 E load that are nearly new, but I could use a bit of more comfort due to having a bad back.
Wondering if going with KO3s and increase in size will provide comfort improvement from a taller sidewall (+ lower recommended tire pressure) OR is the only way to get more comfort is to go AT4Ws in C load while compromising little in tire strength.
The other two concerning factors are reviews of Falkens poor stopping distance in snow and additional 5 lbs per tire compared to KO3s (68 vs 63 lbs), but also seem to have thicker/taller tread.
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I also plan to go to this size next time I need tires, so I’ve also done some early research.
Take a look at Wrangler DuraTrac RT or Cooper Discoverer Stronghold AT. 3PMSF rated and have mileage warranties (50k and 60k). Both are E rated, but likely moderate improvement in comfort over your current 18 inch setup.
You may also consider adjusting your tire pressure down a bit. You may be surprised how much of a difference a few less psi will make.
Take a look at Wrangler DuraTrac RT or Cooper Discoverer Stronghold AT. 3PMSF rated and have mileage warranties (50k and 60k). Both are E rated, but likely moderate improvement in comfort over your current 18 inch setup.
You may also consider adjusting your tire pressure down a bit. You may be surprised how much of a difference a few less psi will make.
Thank you. I looked into Coopers and they are definitely an option. Unfortunately the DuraTracs do not come in this size.
From my limited understanding, my current 32.5" KO2s recommend 42lbs of pressure. The 34" KO3s call for lower 37lbs with additional 1"+ sidewall height.
Wondering if this in itself will provide improved comfort in ride quality.