I am looking for a 1fz to H55 bell housing / adapter. Are you making them still? What are you asking per, and do you have an idea on lead time? I've got a 71 FJ-40 sitting with no power train. I've had the H55 and transfer case for awhile but needed the missing link, the bell housing. Thanks.
1FZ-FE Thoughts/Clarification
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I plan to make them, yes. It’s behind other projects atm. I do have a scan and a whole setup.
Wonderful, and I don't think I could ask for better timing. I'll keep an eye out for a for the kit to get released soon.
@midknightc3 apologizes for the detour away from the 1FZ-FE swap conversation.
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This makes way more sense than a 1FZ swap for the time/effort.
Will you have a motor mount kit, fan shroud, etc to accompany? I would definitely like to try one of these.
Onur, The spacing between the gears feels natural; I have noticed no gaps where it feels like there is too much or not enough room between them. With regards to RPM shift points, its good as well; very natural. Admittedly, I have not taken notes of what RPMs I am shifting, but I also haven't felt the need to do so since it's not necessary to shift at high RPMs. If you wanted to really get on it and accelerate as fast as possible, then you can certainly extend out the RPMs to achieve that (which I have done just because it's fun to do). It's very natural feeling in the 60 with 3.70 gears and 33 inch tires and I'd say that even with a 34" tire it would still be good (I am contemplating doing just this). In the 40 with 4.10 gears and 33 inch tires it's a little over geared and there is definitely room to run 35s or larger. If doing the conversion in a 62, then an UD gear in the T-case wouldn't be a bad idea if running 33s or smaller.
We do have all of those items designed and we will likely offer those in the future as well. For the fan, unfortunately it has to run e-fans. The hub for the fan on the 2uz is to low and too far to the driver's side to allow the use of the mechanical fan. We even tried some other fan variants with a smaller diameter and those didn't work. All that being said, we do have shrouds designed for both set ups, 40 and 60 series. An FJ55 may be in the future and I'd love to get a leaf sprung 70 series in to be able to develop those mounts and bits.
If you are interested in a set up, shoot me a PM. I already have 4 of the 10 spoken for. I'm hoping and somewhat expecting that they all get allocated rather quickly and that I have a lot of requests so I can gauge the demand for the next run.
I didn't read all the comments on all 5 pages of this thread so I hope I'm not parroting something already offered. An alternative to the toyota engine might be the Atlas 4200 engine. Inline 6 24 valve common in several older SUV models. Engines have proven to be quite robust with good power curves. I've reached out to one company about a quote on an adapter to an H55.
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Okay, this is the first attempt of making a bell house but he went making 3F bell house opening.
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Today i went to the shop to check it out. I should bring him 1fz housing so he can have pert closed round.
I didn't like the shape of the of the retainer
I didn't like the shape of the of the retainer
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Yeah, yes they are and this is what we have in here. There is a cnc shop in Qatar that would cost 1000% the cost of this. The plan to go with the cnc shop but maybe later.
Aluminum shrink rate is around 1.5% which is pretty noticeable on parts this size. If you take an existing part and try to copy it by using it as the pattern in an aluminum casting it won't work well.
Patterns also need to be super smooth so they come out of the sand nicely and the sand being used needs to be the right grade and condition for what you're trying to cast.
If your goal is a one-off bellhousing I recommend a combination of welding plate aluminum to an existing bellhousing and post-machining to bring everything back into tolerance. This can make a very nice part and it's a lot easier to come up with good TIG welders and good machinists than it is patternmakers and foundries for low volumes.
If your goal is the production of a product then you definitely need a better patternmaker. The quality of the pattern is the heart of your product.
@Meshal We use this company in Germany for patterning and castings. I know it's still a bit far away for you but they do excellent work.
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@Meshal are you still working on having an H151 bell housing re-tapped to adapt to the H55, or have you abandoned that for the casting you're talking about above?
A couple questions for those with more knowledge than I, are my current FJ60 gauges going to be compatible with the 1FZ, or am I going to need a new gauge cluster?
Any recommendations re-A/C? Do I just keep the old 60 setup, source an FJ80 system, or something different?
Engine should be coming out of the shop in the next couple weeks, so things might start happening soon!
A couple questions for those with more knowledge than I, are my current FJ60 gauges going to be compatible with the 1FZ, or am I going to need a new gauge cluster?
Any recommendations re-A/C? Do I just keep the old 60 setup, source an FJ80 system, or something different?
Engine should be coming out of the shop in the next couple weeks, so things might start happening soon!
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I am still going to do it anyway