14 Bolt axles in Land Cruisers

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Do you think the Ballistic shave kit is worth it?

50/50 - On the plus side, having a machined bottom plate and matching diff cover that can tie into a truss is somewhat worth the spend. Downside thus far is that I've pretty much bashed up the lower lip of the diff cover and it's going to take a little grinder work to access the recessed allen bolts.
 
Well I have to hurry because I need to leave for a birthday party but I made some progress today. The axle is now in three pieces. Ordered the shave kit from Ballistic. Ruff stuff 14 bolt install kit and the flange from High Angle. I will get the pictures posted tomorrow if not later tonight.
 
there's a guy called Blacksheep10 (i think) on pirate4x4 who makes a nicer 14bolt shave kit AND he will ship it to you promptly.....ballistic might take 3 months

he's the same guy who sells ori shocks on there
 
Here are some picture of the 14 bolt.
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While I spent more on cutting, grinding and welding supplies than I did for the axle I would not say its cheap to put one of these under your Land Cruiser.

R&P with install kit
Locker
Shave kit
U bolts with plates and shock mounts
Disk brakes
 
Why did you cut both sides?
 
Why did you cut both sides?

X2 I thought you were just gonna cut the long side (passenger) and do it that way.
 
Oh yeah, my thought was to match the stock FJ60 axle width of 57" but I have 2" wheel spacers on the front and rear now so it makes sense to swap the left and right sides to keep the axle 63" and not have to run wheel spacers on the rear anyway.

The 14 bolt bible on Pirate says the axle tubes are 0.5" thick but mine measures 0.305". After doing some searching it seems like many people have 14 bolt axles that the tubes are not 0.5". Just in case you are putting too much faith in reading that bible.
 
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Yeah, Billia sometimes takes himself too seriously.
 
Oh yeah, my thought was to match the stock FJ60 axle width of 57" but I have 2" wheel spacers on the front and rear now so it makes sense to swap the left and right sides to keep the axle 63" and not have to run wheel spacers on the rear anyway.

The 14 bolt bible on Pirate says the axle tubes are 0.5" thick but mine measures 0.305". After doing some searching it seems like many people have 14 bolt axles that the tubes are not 0.5". Just in case you are putting too much faith in reading that bible.

Did you just measure the same length from the flange or did you do like freds40 did on his and cut different lengths off of the tubes?

Sorry for the delayed response. Been a bit crazy lately and haven't been on in a while.

For the 14 Bolt I found that the long side (passenger) shaft on a factory axle is right about 6" longer than the factory short side (driver). For the housing to be offset and re-use the factory shafts, the long side now has to accommodate a shaft that is 6" shorter and the short side now has to accommodate a shaft that is 6" longer.
For my setup I measured 4" back from the back of the backing plate flange on the short side and 10" from the flange on the long side. Swap the tubes side to side and the shafts will swap over no problem.
 
never mind Im retarded, the pictures you posted speak for themselves.:doh:
 
Ordered a Yukon Grizzly locker today.

As long as the parts show up in a reasonable time frame (tomorrow would be good) things will go together quickly.

My brother is coming out for Thanksgiving and wants to go wheeling so I hope to have the new axle ready to go by then. I am afraid that if I hammer on the FJ60 axle I will brake another axle shaft and I don't have any spares to fix it.

Still need some brake parts, drive shaft lengh will change, antiwrap bar mount to the 14 bolt. I am working on the sleeves for putting the axle tubes back on now.

Still think that the 14 bolt axle shaft isn't that much bigger than the FJ60 axle shaft so this better be worth it!
 
Ordered a Yukon Grizzly locker today.

As long as the parts show up in a reasonable time frame (tomorrow would be good) things will go together quickly.

My brother is coming out for Thanksgiving and wants to go wheeling so I hope to have the new axle ready to go by then. I am afraid that if I hammer on the FJ60 axle I will brake another axle shaft and I don't have any spares to fix it.

Still need some brake parts, drive shaft lengh will change, antiwrap bar mount to the 14 bolt. I am working on the sleeves for putting the axle tubes back on now.

Still think that the 14 bolt axle shaft isn't that much bigger than the FJ60 axle shaft so this better be worth it!

you might want to think about renting an alignment bar or building some sort of jig to keep everything straight when your welding it all up......and i can promise you sir that the 14bolt shafts are infinitely stronger than your yota's are
 
anyone know right offhand what the weight difference is between a 14bolt and fj60 rear axle? i think the 14 bolt weighs around 550 lbs iirc.....dk about the yota axle though...
 
and i can promise you sir that the 14bolt shafts are infinitely stronger than your yota's are

I'll take that on faith! :beer:
 
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Still think that the 14 bolt axle shaft isn't that much bigger than the FJ60 axle shaft so this better be worth it!

The 14 bolt is definitely stronger, if not bigger. The shafts may be similar in size to the stock 60 shaft but the 14b is a Full Floating axle, not semi floating, so the shaft doesn't need to be as big in the first place. Not to mention the huge hub flange bolts, massive ring gear, etc.

This is a much stronger axle.
 
The 14 bolt is definitely stronger, if not bigger. The shafts may be similar in size to the stock 60 shaft but the 14b is a Full Floating axle, not semi floating, so the shaft doesn't need to be as big in the first place. Not to mention the huge hub flange bolts, massive ring gear, etc.

This is a much stronger axle.

a 14 bolts shafts are not similar in size to a stock LC shaft. The LC shafts seem to be beefier because the major diameter is so huge, but that adds nothing to the overall strength of the shaft. You will be fine on a stock 14 bolt shaft for a very long time.

FF vs SF really has to do with load capacity, not twisting strength of the shaft.

Stock D60 shafts have nothing on a 14 bolt shaft.
 
a 14 bolts shafts are not similar in size to a stock LC shaft. The LC shafts seem to be beefier because the major diameter is so huge, but that adds nothing to the overall strength of the shaft. You will be fine on a stock 14 bolt shaft for a very long time.

FF vs SF really has to do with load capacity, not twisting strength of the shaft.

Stock D60 shafts have nothing on a 14 bolt shaft.

I've never had the two side by side, so I don't know directly, just going off of what PPFJ60 said.

With a FF rear axle however, can't the axle shafts handle more torque before snapping because they are not supporting the weight of the vehicle?
 

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