What have you done to your 200 Series this week?

[GrouchyTech]

Buys BFH, because BFH. Complains about ergonomics of BFH because he's just tapping nails for picture hooks.

This is why we can't have our BFH, because a loud outside chorus wants cheap, light, and efficient, a la LC250 and LC300.

Absurd.

Honestly a 120 or 150 series GX would serve you much better with the lightweight side swinging door.

Those doors are not lightweight. I have lots of hate for those doors.

 

[siberian]

I've no idea what @TeCKis300 post is about.. BFH? I bought a car that don't seem to work for what I need and for where I live. So sorry you find this absurd.

siberian

 

[TeCKis300]

Those doors are not lightweight. I have lots of hate for those doors.

O I hear you. They are great in some respects in that it doesn't have to work against gravity. Even as they open on the wrong side for the US. Still, perfect for owners like my elderly parents. Low effort to open/close, easy to reach in.

I've no idea what @TeCKis300 post is about.. BFH? I bought a car that don't seem to work for what I need and for where I live. So sorry you find this absurd.

siberian

Just pointing out it was your choice to buy the car. One that doesn't work for you.

Is that the cars fault? Having a design that works as for its intended audience, in a celebrated package that is often recognized as the king of its use case?

 

[Goodberger]

Oddly enough, I love having the tailgate with a dog because I can leave the gate up, and it acts as a little buffer to keep her in the car, but the hatch open allows her to feel present and have fresh air. I have also used it as a very nice stable step platform the few times I've put things up on the roof. Gate down (open position), hatch closed, and you can get a very easy way to reach things on top...especially in a parking lot!

Anyways, does anyone have a preferred tool for swapping out the inner tie rods? Currently planning to just use a large pipe wrench I have lying around.

 

[siberian]

O I hear you. They are great in some respects in that it doesn't have to work against gravity. Even as they open on the wrong side for the US. Still, perfect for owners like my elderly parents. Low effort to open/close, easy to reach in.



Just pointing out it was your choice to buy the car. One that doesn't work for you.

Is that the cars fault? Having a design that works as for its intended audience, in a celebrated package that is often recognized as the king of its use case?

It's not the car's fault; it just don't work for me. I'm sure in your life you've bought stuff that you thought would work and in the end didn't. Not the end of the world.

The "intended audience"? So they designed the car for an audience that was crying out for this? How many other makes make one like this if it's such a sought after item? Why did the follow-on model (LC300) have a "normal" hatch?

I was in a rush to buy a replacement that I never planned as if the Treg hadn't been totaled I was not "looking" for a replacement.

I tried to check all the boxes I needed: no diesel, towing capacity, no EV or hybrid, no 3rd row (ended up having to compromise) but ripped it out as soon as I got it . But TBH I didn't look at the hatch. My bad.

However since I now have transport for the kids and fishing, hauling etc. I can look calmly for a replacement if I can't work around this issue. As an example, our fishing quota (depending on the year) as residents is 35 salmon since we go in a group of 5 friends we normally bag over 120 Copper River Reds. FWIW, I'm not filleting them on the hatch. So whether it's fishing or hauling construction stuff or moving the kids, I have no use for it.

So it's not TBH it just don't work for me or where I live or what I need an SUV for. And yes, I should have checked more carefully, but if I end up selling it it's not the end of the world. I'll know what to look for the next time. Thanks

siberian

 

[TeCKis300]

It's not the car's fault; it just don't work for me. I'm sure in your life you've bought stuff that you thought would work and in the end didn't. Not the end of the world.

The "intended audience"? So they designed the car for an audience that was crying out for this? How many other makes make one like this if it's such a sought after item? Why did the follow-on model (LC300) have a "normal" hatch?

I was in a rush to buy a replacement that I never planned as if the Treg hadn't been totaled I was not "looking" for a replacement.

I tried to check all the boxes I needed: no diesel, towing capacity, no EV or hybrid, no 3rd row (ended up having to compromise) but ripped it out as soon as I got it . But TBH I didn't look at the hatch. My bad.

However since I now have transport for the kids and fishing, hauling etc. I can look calmly for a replacement if I can't work around this issue. As an example, our fishing quota (depending on the year) as residents is 35 salmon since we go in a group of 5 friends we normally bag over 120 Copper River Reds. FWIW, I'm not filleting them on the hatch. So whether it's fishing or hauling construction stuff or moving the kids, I have no use for it.

So it's not TBH it just don't work for me or where I live or what I need an SUV for. And yes, I should have checked more carefully, but if I end up selling it it's not the end of the world. I'll know what to look for the next time. Thanks

siberian

The 300-series hatch is a sore spot. There's a whole story behind it, and it has a typical hatch for the wrong reasons (weight savings and bean counters) rather than what you're suggesting. To be fair, you have a reasonable point - tailgates do compromise reaching deeper into the cargo hold even as it has so much merit IMO for this type of vehicle. It's why pickup trucks have gotten all fancy with their multi-way tailgates.

The LX AHC kneeling function does help by bringing the height of the rig down providing easier reach.

When I camp, I do bring a folding stool. I don't always use it but with my rig on 37 and when camped on a sloped site, it does help. Maybe it can help you find a way to enjoy the car too.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F6CZFX5Y?tag=ihco-20

 

[aLwAyS4SaLe]

Back Door Stay Assembly Left Hand (#68960-0WE11)
Back Door Stay Assembly Right Hand (#68950-0WE11)

thank you

 

[Ratchey]

It's not the car's fault; it just don't work for me. I'm sure in your life you've bought stuff that you thought would work and in the end didn't. Not the end of the world.

The "intended audience"? So they designed the car for an audience that was crying out for this? How many other makes make one like this if it's such a sought after item? Why did the follow-on model (LC300) have a "normal" hatch?

I was in a rush to buy a replacement that I never planned as if the Treg hadn't been totaled I was not "looking" for a replacement.

I tried to check all the boxes I needed: no diesel, towing capacity, no EV or hybrid, no 3rd row (ended up having to compromise) but ripped it out as soon as I got it . But TBH I didn't look at the hatch. My bad.

However since I now have transport for the kids and fishing, hauling etc. I can look calmly for a replacement if I can't work around this issue. As an example, our fishing quota (depending on the year) as residents is 35 salmon since we go in a group of 5 friends we normally bag over 120 Copper River Reds. FWIW, I'm not filleting them on the hatch. So whether it's fishing or hauling construction stuff or moving the kids, I have no use for it.

So it's not TBH it just don't work for me or where I live or what I need an SUV for. And yes, I should have checked more carefully, but if I end up selling it it's not the end of the world. I'll know what to look for the next time. Thanks

siberian

Have you considered putting your kennels on a roller platform so they can slide out to the end of the tailgate?
Or maybe actually using them puppers as they are meant to and hitch them to the front and increase your gas mileage?