The Great ONSC Gun Thread

[erymer]

Try fleabay they on there priced not to bad either. 3 for $110.

honestly that's too high. All the spare Glock mags I've ever bought were max of $25. I really think it's the mag springs. If it was the feed ramp there should be some random feed issues at other times too and not just on the last round. And it's not like these are the G26 mags either. I think these are rarely used low cap mags so I'd bet money it's the mag itself. He's calling Glock now.

 

[custyota]

The times we are in.

 

[erymer]

The times we are in.

Man ain't that the truth....sad

 

[Yukon LX]

well, Glock was not a huge help. they just gave me apart number to order new followers. i will be calling tomorrow to have these sent to me for free as my mags are brand new.

Below are pics of the actual mags, and where the Federal gets stuck. Again, this is only on the last round, and does not matter if its a full mag fired to the last, or one with one in it, just racked once.

First Mag

 

[Yukon LX]

Mag (clip for the media ) #2

 

[Yukon LX]

any more thoughts, i will be calling Glock again and the shop where i got it tomorrow. (the shop owes me another mag too, although they have not gotten one in in 2 months)

I apologize for all the post, just frustrated a bit.

 

[custyota]

I told you to by a sig! Hehe just screwing with ya. I will look for some 10 rounders for ya this weekend.

 

[Yukon LX]

thanks. i think the little mags may be the issue. I just dont get why its only, let alone 100% consistent with a certain ammo.

 

[fj40z]

Just finished up refinishing the stock of a bolt action 22lr that my grandfather had. He died in 87 and my grandmother had forgot about it being in a closet until last year. It's at least 60 years old if not more. Someone had painted the stock long before my grandfather got it. I finally got around to taking it apart to have it reblued so while the gunsmith has it I decided to refinish the stock. This gun is definitely a shooter not a safe queen but it should turn out pretty nice when I get it back from the shop. The only name on the gun is Jim Brown, I think Stevens made it. But I wanted to resurrect it since it shot shorts, longs and long rifles. Here's some pics, one before of the butt stock and a few finished product.

 

[Mtbcoach]

thanks. i think the little mags may be the issue. I just dont get why its only, let 100% consistent with a certain ammo.

The ammo manufacturers don't care if it works with all guns. When they have a crappy profile, they shorten them, thinking it helps with feeding issues.

Where you need to look next time is where its hanging up on, presumably, on the feed ramp. I'll guess you'll see the shorter round hits the feed ramp at a more perpendicular angle, right on that corner of the round, particularly, at the end of the mag when the spring is at it's lowest applied force. You should be able to repeat this without having to shoot the round.

Go into a place with a safe backdrop, bring only two rounds. Put one in a mag, have the slide held by the slide release lever, insert the mag, release the slide slowly and watch to see where it hangs up. If it doesn't do it when releasing slowly, just drop the slide by releasing the slide lever, again watching how the round slides into (or not) into the barrel.

Yes, as Stan said and I eluded to before, polish the feed ramp as Stan described, I finished mine with a soft cotton "bullet" with red polishing compound on my dremel. Reducing the friction on the ramp will help the round slide up and into the barrel.

I'd also recommend shooting from a rest, at the range where you bought it and see what they say. If you can repeat it from a bench rest, you can eliminate any "user" error.

Just more cents thrown into the kitty...

 

[JohnVee]

Ammunition question.

I have some Federal Hyrashock Law Enforcement holowpoints (i know not the best, but litterally the only hollow points i can find here right now) My question is, the 10th/last round of this ammo in my mag will not go into the chamber. i have probably shot 5 or 6 other types of ammo so far, and have not had a single failure. This happens EVERY time with the Hydrashok. Any thoughts.

I have just started changing this round for one of my cheap ball rounds i use for most range use when in the bed side table.

The simple answer is to stop using this ammo or be happy with a 9-shot pistol. If this ammo repeats the problem every time in every magazine then don't use that ammo. If the magazine malfunctions with all types of ammo then trash the magazine. You're obviously already not confident in your choice of ammo or magazines. Load up with FMJ that you know feeds and be happy until you get new ammo and mags. And if you bitch about FMJ's negatives...then maybe you bought the wrong caliber. Everything is a compromise, and the current retail situation doesn't lend itself to easy experimentation or quick manufacturer response.

This whole situation proves a great point that many people miss...don't just run 3 or 5 rounds of expensive carry ammo to check function in a gun. Send a few entire mags down range in each of the brands you're testing. Yes, it gets very expensive very fast but you need to eliminate so many variables. Props to you for doing this.

Also keep in mind that every time you chamber a round you're shortening it ever so slightly. If you load it, then unload it to show off the gun, then load it, then unload it, etc, using the same round at the top of the mag each time, you're gonna have a nasty looking round that might have been altered enough to not feed properly. Obviously not applicable to revolvers.

--john

 

[BillWright]

Or get some Corbon Powerball
But he's right. I wouldn't carry a round that hadn't scored 100% on min. half dozen magsfull.

There are also other hollow points that have a longer blunter nose. Golden Saber maybe?

And I never go out without a spare mag. Or two.

 

[NCFJ]

Golden Saber was reccomended to Heather and I for our night stand guns as it produces a much lower muzzel flash than most other brands. Never gave it much thought, but a bright muzzel flash can temp blind you in a home defense situation.

 

[BMThiker]

I'm going to spitball another theory. The profile of this HP is different than the FMJ and when the follower approaches the top of the mag, its binding up because of the shortness of the HP. My guess is that the back of the follower is tipping forward as the last round is trying rack and may be enough to slow the feed, halt the action.

When there are more than one round in the magazine, then the follower is at an even keel. Its only when there is one round in the mag that the follower has wiggle room.

 

[elkaholic]

My guess is a polish job on the feed ramp may solve the issue here (as others have pointred out). The ogive of the Hydra-Shok bullet does not closely match that of the FMJ bullet and this causes issues with some firearms. It is a compromise in getting a large cavity that will aid expansion. Additionally, the first round in a magazine (against the follower) is usually at a different angle than the rest. All of this add up to increased possibility of feeding issues.

If all else fails, you could try some Expanding FMJ rounds. These actually work quite nicely, but were hard to find before all the craziness started
9mm EFMJ Ammo

As others have stated, you are doing the right thing by testing your carry ammo at the range. The range is the place to find out that there are feeding issues, not when you need functioning. That said, you should practice clearing jams under pressure at the range anyway.

I have one pistol that absolutely refuses to shoot any hollow point 380 ammo consistently (except for Fiocchi) unless I use factory mags (at $75 each) ... that is, until Hornady released their new Critical Defense load. The ogive of the hollow point rounds simply would not feed right.

 

[NCFJ]

I have run several mags of the Hornady Critical defense through my Bersa .380 with no issue. Some weapons and mags need a little TLC to work well with some ammos, bottom line. We all want to think that our weapon choice is perfect and "Should" be perfect right out of the box, not so.

They are machines designed and made by humans, nothing in that catagory is perfect. I polished the load ramp on the Bersa and also softened all the edges on the magazines, I've not had a jamb of any type since. I also cleaned up the edges on the frame and the slide and the operation is far smoother. I used the same 1000 grit with a little oil.

On the other hand the Ruger SP101 that Heather bought is as close to perfect as it gets. The machining of that pistol is beautiful. I still have a passion for wheel guns. Much more room for artistic design in the piece than a semi, in my OPINION.

 

[custyota]

U are are selling this again ? Location?

fat hands

 

[uzj100]

Never sold the first time. I am located in Raleigh. Great pistol, I just don't get to the range often enough.

 

[custyota]

Paging Parker you need to buy this HK!

fat hands

 

[krzyabncanuck]

5.56 might be a little too much for the local Yote's. But 2 more gone today. In the front yard in the daylight.