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Congrats Andy!! I wouldn't want to have to play against Grobe. He is an awesome coach fo sho
Ole UT is going to extend Fulmer to 2014 but that doesn't mean crap because schools just put a buyout in the contracts these days. The # of years really don't mean much. Right now they are just trying to decide how much of a raise he should get or how much he is worth. Look at the whole body of work or look at his pi$$ poor record over the past 5 / 6 years. I love Fulmer and what he has done for UT but don't want to see it turn into a Bowden/Paterno situation.:whoops:
Ole UT is going to extend Fulmer to 2014 but that doesn't mean crap because schools just put a buyout in the contracts these days. The # of years really don't mean much. Right now they are just trying to decide how much of a raise he should get or how much he is worth. Look at the whole body of work or look at his pi$$ poor record over the past 5 / 6 years. I love Fulmer and what he has done for UT but don't want to see it turn into a Bowden/Paterno situation.:whoops:
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This guy gives Tommy a little hell huh? :shotts:
Once upon a time five year contracts for college coaches were staples and the million dollar barrier was a huge hurdle to get to, but those longing for those days had better forget about it if they are going to follow a team in a BCS conference. Thanks to guys likeBob Stoops, Nick Saban and others, five year deals have given way to seven year contracts and the two million dollar barrier is nothing more than a bump in the road for college coaching salaries.
In case you missed it, Clemson's Tommy Bowden got the Tiger nation up in arms by hearing from Arkansas and the Clemson administration put the finishing touches on a contract extension. That extension had been in the works since a last second win over a 6-5 South Carolina team.
Bowden's new contract is a seven year deal that will reportedly make him 2.2 million dollars a year. If you are keeping score at home, that's 2.2 million annually for a 9 year tenure that has never had a 10 win season. Has never been to an ACC Championship game. Has never won a championship of any kind. Bowden has compiled a 69-41 record. He is 13-20 against ranked teams and is 3-4 in bowl games.
Tennessee athletic director Mike Hamilton has stated that he is returning Fulmer's contract to seven years which will take him through the 2014 season. Hamilton has not said however what he will do in terms of compensation.
With LSU's Les Miles set to join the 3-million dollar club with Auburn's Tommy Tuberville, Florida's Urban Meyer, and Alabama's Nick Saban, Fulmer's current compensation will be middle of the pack in the conference.
Some will argue that is where Fulmer should be and some will argue that he is not being paid enough. There are plenty of pro's and con's to that debate. However, none of us are Mike Hamilton and none of us are going to be dealing in Fulmer's negotiations.
What is a safe bet is that when Fulmer's agent Jimmy Sexton and Hamilton talk in the coming month about Fulmer's salary the phrase "market value" is going to brought up often during the course of the conversation. In fact, Hamilton has already acknowledged that "market value" is a factor when it comes to Fulmer's compensation. You can bet that Sexton will cite Hamilton's alma-mater Clemson when he talks about market value.
So what is the market value of the dean of SEC coaches? It depends on what side of the fence you are on. If you are on the side of what have you done lately, Fulmer's value is not as high. If you are on the side of examining the whole body of work, then Fulmer is underpaid based on how his record compares to other coaches.
Should Phillip Fulmer make 2.5 million dollars a year? I don't know and that is not for me to decide. The current climate for coaches' salaries in the world of college football suggests that he should make at least that. You can bet his agent will push for at least that much. And if Fulmer is indeed Hamilton's coach for the future, then Fulmer should be paid in the upper tier of coaches in the SEC because he is your coach because of his entire body of work.
The question is what will Mike Hamilton and the University of Tennessee do?
Once upon a time five year contracts for college coaches were staples and the million dollar barrier was a huge hurdle to get to, but those longing for those days had better forget about it if they are going to follow a team in a BCS conference. Thanks to guys likeBob Stoops, Nick Saban and others, five year deals have given way to seven year contracts and the two million dollar barrier is nothing more than a bump in the road for college coaching salaries.
In case you missed it, Clemson's Tommy Bowden got the Tiger nation up in arms by hearing from Arkansas and the Clemson administration put the finishing touches on a contract extension. That extension had been in the works since a last second win over a 6-5 South Carolina team.
Bowden's new contract is a seven year deal that will reportedly make him 2.2 million dollars a year. If you are keeping score at home, that's 2.2 million annually for a 9 year tenure that has never had a 10 win season. Has never been to an ACC Championship game. Has never won a championship of any kind. Bowden has compiled a 69-41 record. He is 13-20 against ranked teams and is 3-4 in bowl games.
Tennessee athletic director Mike Hamilton has stated that he is returning Fulmer's contract to seven years which will take him through the 2014 season. Hamilton has not said however what he will do in terms of compensation.
With LSU's Les Miles set to join the 3-million dollar club with Auburn's Tommy Tuberville, Florida's Urban Meyer, and Alabama's Nick Saban, Fulmer's current compensation will be middle of the pack in the conference.
Some will argue that is where Fulmer should be and some will argue that he is not being paid enough. There are plenty of pro's and con's to that debate. However, none of us are Mike Hamilton and none of us are going to be dealing in Fulmer's negotiations.
What is a safe bet is that when Fulmer's agent Jimmy Sexton and Hamilton talk in the coming month about Fulmer's salary the phrase "market value" is going to brought up often during the course of the conversation. In fact, Hamilton has already acknowledged that "market value" is a factor when it comes to Fulmer's compensation. You can bet that Sexton will cite Hamilton's alma-mater Clemson when he talks about market value.
So what is the market value of the dean of SEC coaches? It depends on what side of the fence you are on. If you are on the side of what have you done lately, Fulmer's value is not as high. If you are on the side of examining the whole body of work, then Fulmer is underpaid based on how his record compares to other coaches.
Should Phillip Fulmer make 2.5 million dollars a year? I don't know and that is not for me to decide. The current climate for coaches' salaries in the world of college football suggests that he should make at least that. You can bet his agent will push for at least that much. And if Fulmer is indeed Hamilton's coach for the future, then Fulmer should be paid in the upper tier of coaches in the SEC because he is your coach because of his entire body of work.
The question is what will Mike Hamilton and the University of Tennessee do?
Was just posting as I saw them...
Thanks, Fulmer saved his job this year, just like JoPa did at PSU in 2005. Hopefully he'll keep UT headed in the current direction.
IMO, Arkansas is getting what they deserve for running off a coach who went to the SEC Championship game last year, gave the eventual national champ a run for their money, got to 10 wins, went 8-4 so far this year and just beat the likely soon-to-be national champs...
Who on earth would want that job????
Though the Arkansas hillbilly rumor mill is now pointing to Dennis Franchione...
Thanks, Fulmer saved his job this year, just like JoPa did at PSU in 2005. Hopefully he'll keep UT headed in the current direction.
IMO, Arkansas is getting what they deserve for running off a coach who went to the SEC Championship game last year, gave the eventual national champ a run for their money, got to 10 wins, went 8-4 so far this year and just beat the likely soon-to-be national champs...
Who on earth would want that job????
Though the Arkansas hillbilly rumor mill is now pointing to Dennis Franchione...
Agree... will be nice to see Ark get beat consistently by Nutt in a few years.
Happy for Ark... indifferent for the Falcons. No surprise really. He didn't come into the situation he signed up for and now it's a no-win situation for a few years at least.
Go Skins! (they suck too)
Go Skins! (they suck too)
Coach of the moment sweepstakes
Maturity really sucks: you finally realize what once was such a passionate pursuit (collegiate sports, football in particular) ends up trivialized by the way we pursue it.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=17146091
Whether or not you like Frankie is not the point. All us passionate graduates should consider where we are driving our beloved Alma Mater.
Maturity really sucks: you finally realize what once was such a passionate pursuit (collegiate sports, football in particular) ends up trivialized by the way we pursue it.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=17146091
Whether or not you like Frankie is not the point. All us passionate graduates should consider where we are driving our beloved Alma Mater.
Glad you are #2 I believe we are #12 right now although we did lose in OT on fri. Let me know when your soccer team has 2 national championships though cause then you can talk.
In the title game after tonight's W. A win on Sunday will cut the deficit in half.
'bout time!
Well, I finally replaced the pc at home. I can now
edit and reply and attach. Yee haa
This one is for you Richard.
Well, I finally replaced the pc at home. I can now
edit and reply and attach. Yee haa
This one is for you Richard.
looks like west virginia needs a new coach........
What a game! Sorry for the Clemson loss, but it was an entertaining game!
Congrats John! SEC is looking pretty good so far...
Of course, the big games are coming up! I love the 14 hours of couch time tomorrow...
I will say, this years bowl matchups pretty much suck compared to some of the matchups that could have happened. UGA against USC or OK would have been great! Ill against Fla would have been fun... etc...
Guess we'll have to take what we get!
Andy, congrats on your win, and keeping your coach!
Congrats John! SEC is looking pretty good so far...
Of course, the big games are coming up! I love the 14 hours of couch time tomorrow...
I will say, this years bowl matchups pretty much suck compared to some of the matchups that could have happened. UGA against USC or OK would have been great! Ill against Fla would have been fun... etc...
Guess we'll have to take what we get!
Andy, congrats on your win, and keeping your coach!
That was an exhausting game! Good game, pretty much what I expected, a defensive battle. Looking forward to the rest of the bowl games!
I think that things are looking bright for next year! Go Tigers!!
I think that things are looking bright for next year! Go Tigers!!
War Eagle......