Parking brake cable troubles (2 Viewers)

[brownjeans]

My parking brake cable is binding up and won't release. I know it's the cable and not the levers on the drums because when I disconnected the cable from the passenger drum lever, the park brake released completely from both wheels. Sometimes when it won't release, I can put in in reverse, turn off the car, put put the handle down, get out and kneel behind the rear driver's side wheel, reach around and grab the cable and yank it and it will release. (feel free to interject your reach around yank joke here)

Anyway - my FJ60 is a Sep 1985 build. Looking around it seems the parking brake cable changed after April 1985. Anyone know the difference? What changed? It seems the pre-Apr 1985 cable is readily available and affordable, while the late 1985 cable is not as easy to find and more expensive. Does the early cable work on the later model?

 

[cruiserpilot]

Check with cruiser outfitters. Measure the position of the fitting under the floor.
The early model cable will not fit.
Build date is important so check your VIN and build date on the data card.
It needs replacing, if it’s that tight time to replace. I just went through the whole
process.

 

[cruisermatt]

The difference is the mounting tabs on the rear axle.

All versions of 60 cables are available from Toyota so they are all equally easy to acquire.

 

[cruiseroutfit]

There are two different mounting variants on the rear axle housing itself.

Early:

Park Brake Cable - OEM Toyota - Fits 8/1980 - 4/1985 FJ60 (PB60100)

Toyota Land Cruiser Park Brake Cable

cruiserteq.com

Late:

Park Brake Cable - OEM Toyota - Fits 4/1985 - 1/1990 FJ60/62 (PB60101)

Toyota Land Cruiser Park Brake Cable

cruiserteq.com

 

[brownjeans]

@cruiseroutfit Thanks for pictures. I have the late cable for sure. I guess I'll be stopping by to pick a new cable up

 

[cruiseroutfit]

@cruiseroutfit Thanks for pictures. I have the late cable for sure. I guess I'll be stopping by to pick a new cable up

Sounds great!

 

[Dekeman]

@cruiseroutfit Kurt, maybe you can solve this mystery and suggest a solution. I bought the early cable with the moth-like axle mount for my '83 60. Part number 46410-60100. The later cable, 46410-60101, has the square axle mount (like your link above) which is what I weirdly have on my original 1983 axle. The early-model, moth-mount can be fastened with one bolt to the same spot on the axle, and since it's really only holding up the cable, should be adequate. But it's kind of bugging me that it's not factory perfect. Getting the new cable out again is a royal pain with that one-way clip at the hand lever. So do I keep this set up or buy the later (square-mount) cable for my early truck?

 

[cruiseroutfit]

I'd probably build a small "L-bracket" to make it mount with two bolts and not worry about it until you need to replace the next time

 

[Dekeman]

Thanks Kurt.

 

[iansplatinum]

The listed year interchange appears to be wrong. I ordered a 46410-60100 for my 100k mile Oct/83 FJ60. Noticed that my axle housing was for the later style cable 46410-60101.

Weird, thought maybe my axle and cable were swapped? Went and checked my other 60, also Oct/83. Same thing.
Then I looked at a bunch of '84 model 60s on BAT, all had the later style cable bracket and axle housing,
The only one I could find with the early style was this '82 ('81 build date) on BAT. No Reserve: 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ60 - https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1982-toyota-land-cruiser-fj60-28/

View attachment 3611159

Compare to later style cable with L bracket and bolt pattern perpendicular to cable (old style has bolt pattern parallel to cable).
Image taken from 1984 listing: 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ60 4-Speed - https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1984-toyota-land-cruiser-fj60-110/

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Other 84s on BAT that also show late cable:
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1984-toyota-land-cruiser-fj60-105/ pic #240
1984 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ60 - https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1984-toyota-land-cruiser-fj60-106/ pic #168
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1984-toyota-land-cruiser-fj60-103/ pic #299

So I feel like I have enough evidence to declare the part interchange is wrong or is not fully correct.
But I'm one guy against a massive corporation so maybe I'll just say this: if you have an -85 60 series, check your axle housing first before ordering the cable.

Early cable (bolt pattern parallel to cable)
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Late cable (bolt pattern perpendicular to cable)
View attachment 3611213

 

[CruiserTrash]

The listed year interchange appears to be wrong. I ordered a 46410-60100 for my 100k mile Oct/83 FJ60. Noticed that my axle housing was for the later style cable 46410-60101.

Weird, thought maybe my axle and cable were swapped? Went and checked my other 60, also Oct/83. Same thing.
Then I looked at a bunch of '84 model 60s on BAT, all had the later style cable bracket and axle housing,
The only one I could find with the early style was this '82 ('81 build date) on BAT. No Reserve: 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ60 - https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1982-toyota-land-cruiser-fj60-28/

View attachment 3611159

Compare to later style cable with L bracket and bolt pattern perpendicular to cable (old style has bolt pattern parallel to cable).
Image taken from 1984 listing: 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ60 4-Speed - https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1984-toyota-land-cruiser-fj60-110/

View attachment 3611192

Other 84s on BAT that also show late cable:
No Reserve: 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ60 5-Speed - https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1984-toyota-land-cruiser-fj60-105/ pic #240
1984 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ60 - https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1984-toyota-land-cruiser-fj60-106/ pic #168
1984 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ60 - https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1984-toyota-land-cruiser-fj60-103/ pic #299

So I feel like I have enough evidence to declare the part interchange is wrong or is not fully correct.
But I'm one guy against a massive corporation so maybe I'll just say this: if you have an -85 60 series, check your axle housing first before ordering the cable.

Early cable (bolt pattern parallel to cable)
View attachment 3611214



Late cable (bolt pattern perpendicular to cable)
View attachment 3611213

When I replaced the suspension on my previous 60 - it was an 83 model with a build date in very early 83 I think - I ran into some goofy stuff with it having some features of a later "84+" axle. It was such that I started thinking somebody had maybe swapper the rear axle out. Perhaps the rear axle tweaks weren't 84+ but actually 83+.

I'm just adding wild speculation to the fire Ian.

 

[Dekeman]

Good info, Ian, and I think you are right, Jim, it may have been 83+. I also thought maybe my axle had been swapped but there is no way. Probably has more to do with model year changes and the assembly line getting parts for the coming year change. I just made a bracket for mine in the end, keeping the later bracket on my early truck.

 

[iansplatinum]

Yep so that's 7 datapoints. Haven't seen a single 84 with the early parking cable as described by the interchange. So I'm thinking the interchange is wrong because what are the chances we all had swapped axles? My brown 84 was with the same owners since 88 and they said they only ever changed fluids on it.