Panhard drop bracket option? (3 Viewers)

[drkdss]

Here’s Some more pics. The part that I hate about this is now I can’t run my spare tire in oem location. I was about 3/16 away from it touching the trac bar prior to the bolt on trac bar correction kit. Now it touches it. . Oh well. Time to toss it in the cab or get me one of those hitch swing tire mounts.

I also want to mention that I’m 100% confident that the LX sway bar will have no issues bolting up to this. If you have an LX and live in socal and can meet me either in norco / corona or even baldwin part. Please reach out to me. LX version will come with an extra plate to shim the driver side sway bar to match the passenger side.

 

[FJRanger]

@drkdss Just found this post. You can disregard half the message I sent. I wonder if there'd be any inference with the 24 gallon long range tank.

 

[drkdss]

@drkdss Just found this post. You can disregard half the message I sent. I wonder if there'd be any inference with the 24 gallon long range tank.

There will not be any interference with lca aux tank.

 

[kcjaz]

There will not be any interference with lca aux tank.

Correct. Here’s some pics of mine with the 24 gal LRA. No issues.

 

[nuclearbeef]

Here’s Some more pics. The part that I hate about this is now I can’t run my spare tire in oem location. I was about 3/16 away from it touching the trac bar prior to the bolt on trac bar correction kit. Now it touches it. . Oh well. Time to toss it in the cab or get me one of those hitch swing tire mounts.

I also want to mention that I’m 100% confident that the LX sway bar will have no issues bolting up to this. If you have an LX and live in socal and can meet me either in norco / corona or even baldwin part. Please reach out to me. LX version will come with an extra plate to shim the driver side sway bar to match the passenger side.


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What is interfering with the spare?
The bracket or the track bar?

I really need one of these, but would like to keep my spare underneath.

 

[drkdss]

What is interfering with the spare?
The bracket or the track bar?

I really need one of these, but would like to keep my spare underneath.

Trac bar. I’m running a 285/75/18 so it’s a 34.8” tire. It will touch it.

How much gap do you have now between your trac bar and the spare? If it’s 5/16 or more you will be good to go. The bolt on bracket just moves it back 1/4”. Which a lot of ppl don’t realize that actually make the bushing on the driver side more neutral as it’s more in line since the trac bar mount on driver side is behind the axle side mount by a good amount. So if we are talking about an oem style vulcanized rubber bushing, it actually relieves the twist.

 

[drkdss]

Im dropping off a big batch here in a few days to powder coat. Should be another 2-3 weeks before they are on the shelf.

 

[100kiwi]

What is interfering with the spare?
The bracket or the track bar?

I really need one of these, but would like to keep my spare underneath.

You won't get this interference with the weld on option, it moves the panhard vertically up from the stock location.

 

[jkeithw]

You won't get this interference with the weld on option, it moves the panhard vertically up from the stock location.

to be fair; everything is trade-off, right? ease of installation vs. mms, etc.

great to have options in this market, though.

 

[chriscosta416]

@drkdss I am in SoCal and have an 11 LX want to meet up?

 

[jkeithw]

@drkdss - get that Vendor tag; sir! (it's worth it here - this is a good spot)

 

[drkdss]

@drkdss I am in SoCal and have an 11 LX want to meet up?

Yea send me a private message and we can link up in a few weeks to test fit. I know it works since it’s identical to the LC but with the extra mount on driver side for the sway traditional style sway bar. Which will have no issue on either side. I’ve been in the off-road world for over 15 years ( in the background helping others) and am confident it’s perfect…. But obviously we need to test fit it before it a thing for LX.

 

[chriscosta416]

Yea send me a private message and we can link up in a few weeks to test fit. I know it works since it’s identical to the LC but with the extra mount on driver side for the sway traditional style sway bar. Which will have no issue on either side. I’ve been in the off-road world for over 15 years ( in the background helping others) and am confident it’s perfect…. But obviously we need to test fit it before it a thing for LX.

Rad, sent!

 

[colacola]

About to do a medium lift 2”-ish for first time (everything suspension-wise is oem currently) and trying to ensure I understand correctly and dont waste money on adjustable panhard if not needed. I read this thread (whilst drinking beers) and searched a few others but - is consensus that oem panhard is just as good as adjustable (Dobinsons or Tough dog) if going the weldable PCK bracket route?

If you had to assign a % of improvement of rear wag post 2” lift - How much better is bracket with oem panhard, vs just adding adjustable panhard? I am worried about finding a competent & trustworthy welder in my parts.

Thx

 

[bloc]

About to do a medium lift 2”-ish for first time (everything suspension-wise is oem currently) and trying to ensure I understand correctly and dont waste money on adjustable panhard if not needed. I read this thread (whilst drinking beers) and searched a few others but - is consensus that oem panhard is just as good as adjustable (Dobinsons or Tough dog) if going the weldable PCK bracket route?

If you had to assign a % of improvement of rear wag post 2” lift - How much better is bracket with oem panhard, vs just adding adjustable panhard? I am worried about finding a competent & trustworthy welder in my parts.

Thx

Adjustable panhard alone will do nothing for tail wag. The sagitta will still be there. All it can do is center the axle if it’s not correct at static ride height due to sagitta.

A panhard correction bracket eliminates the need for an adjustable panhard in the first place by correcting the panhard geometry at your new ride height. Since 2” lifts usually net more lift than 2”, is go ahead and to the bracket, personally.

I’d also advise watching the video to understand the concept of sagitta. It’ll all make a lot more sense after that.

 

[colacola]

Adjustable panhard alone will do nothing for tail wag. The sagitta will still be there. All it can do is center the axle if it’s not correct at static ride height due to sagitta.

A panhard correction bracket eliminates the need for an adjustable panhard in the first place by correcting the panhard geometry at your new ride height. Since 2” lifts usually net more lift than 2”, is go ahead and to the bracket, personally.

I’d also advise watching the video to understand the concept of sagitta. It’ll all make a lot more sense after that.

Got it. Thanks. I watched the video but had trouble connecting the dots. Appreciate your guidance.

 

[Jason Andrews]

You won't get this interference with the weld on option, it moves the panhard vertically up from the stock location.

Confused by this. Did I miss something @drkdss? The bolt-on option moves the axle mounting point rearward as well? I've had my Eimkeith panhard riser in hand since November, just haven't had a chance to get it installed.

I have the @Delta VS 4-6" version on my 80 with 2" springs that net 3" of lift and it sits parallel. An absolute game changer so I'm excited to get my @eimkeith riser bracket on the LX.

 

[drkdss]

Confused by this. Did I miss something @drkdss? The bolt-on option moves the axle mounting point rearward as well? I've had my Eimkeith panhard riser in hand since November, just haven't had a chance to get it installed.

I have the @Delta VS 4-6" version on my 80 with 2" springs that net 3" of lift and it sits parallel. An absolute game changer so I'm excited to get my @eimkeith riser bracket on the LX.

Since the back bracket for the kit sits on the inside of the oem mount. The trac bar is technically 1/4 “ rear ward of the position it would be in the oem mount or to e weld on option. A 1/4” lol. It’s just what it is. So if you are running a spare tire that day is 1/4” away. There’s a chance that the tire will rub the trac bar ( I know you guys call it a Pan hard bar). And yes the bolt in one will as far as the bracket itself will not get in the way of anything else.

And if you want to get real scientific, if we talking about an oem style bushing or even a poly bushing. Bringing the trac bar more towards the rear will actually allow the bushing to work better as it’s more inline. When I say better def won’t feel it but say we do a cAD analysis, you will see it’s less stress on the joint. With that said you will never experience and issue either way. I’m just saying lol.

 

[empty80]

 

[linuxgod]

/me twiddles thumbs waiting for the bolt-on version to try.