Good point. It’s always been the same engine. It was everything else that was different. Now it’s the same frame, the same engine, etc etc. and 17 gal of useable gas. Clown show. Would love a 30 gal factory tank or a clamshell rear hatch. That hybrid battery is also awful on the lx. Eats all the storage. Most would rather have the hd frame and the v8.
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1UR in the GX460 vs 3UR in the 200 series was a clear step up.
Now, there is a tier of Toyota/Lexus powertrain that is just MIA. The flagship LX should have a powertrain differentiator (no, an e-motor doesn't count). Especially when the cost difference between the GX is over $35k. Paying $100k+ and getting a twin turbo V6 that's available in a $35k cheaper vehicle is a pretty hard sell. No wonder GX demand is through the roof comparatively. You gotta be a die hard Cruiser fan to justify the LX.
100 series and GX470 shared the 2UZ, but the original MSRP spread between them both (even inflation adjusted) was much much tighter than $35k+.
Now, there is a tier of Toyota/Lexus powertrain that is just MIA. The flagship LX should have a powertrain differentiator (no, an e-motor doesn't count). Especially when the cost difference between the GX is over $35k. Paying $100k+ and getting a twin turbo V6 that's available in a $35k cheaper vehicle is a pretty hard sell. No wonder GX demand is through the roof comparatively. You gotta be a die hard Cruiser fan to justify the LX.
100 series and GX470 shared the 2UZ, but the original MSRP spread between them both (even inflation adjusted) was much much tighter than $35k+.
I figured you would point out the 4.6 vs 5.7 on the previous gen GX-LX which is a fair point. The way Toyota has done it this gen is bigger turbos/more boost for more power in the LX. The base LX 600 makes another 60 HP but interestingly the torque is the same compared to the 550. Then they went and added the hybrid battery for another boost in the 700 model.
I just think 200 prices are thru the roof because of two things. First one being the old school types who don't like the new stuff and the second one being the rise in popularity of internet auction sites and social media influence.
Of course, for $35k+ less you can get same powertrain. 464/583 in a. Sequoia. All of them have similar HP and torque as the LX700H and the “TRD performance” ones even has that extra 30 HP to match the 700H
4Runner (base/i-FORCE): $41,570 / 4Runner (i-FORCE MAX): ~$49,270 (TRD Off-Road Premium est.)
Land Cruiser: $59,095
Sequoia: $65,025 (SR5 2WD)
GX 550: $67,735
LX 600: $107,950
LX 700h: $116,685
AI Notes:
The Sequoia is a standout value — it ties the LX 700h on torque (583 lb-ft) and nearly matches it on horsepower (437 vs 457), but at roughly $65k vs $117k.
The LX 600 and GX 550 share the same 479 lb-ft torque figure, but the LX 600 costs ~$40k more and delivers 60 more horsepower — essentially paying a luxury premium for the larger body and three-row cabin.
The Land Cruiser and 4Runner (MAX) are identical on both power figures (326 hp / 465 lb-ft) since they share the same powertrain, but the Land Cruiser starts ~$6,500 higher for its full-time AWD and locking differentials standard.
Land Cruiser: $59,095
Sequoia: $65,025 (SR5 2WD)
GX 550: $67,735
LX 600: $107,950
LX 700h: $116,685
AI Notes:
The Sequoia is a standout value — it ties the LX 700h on torque (583 lb-ft) and nearly matches it on horsepower (437 vs 457), but at roughly $65k vs $117k.
The LX 600 and GX 550 share the same 479 lb-ft torque figure, but the LX 600 costs ~$40k more and delivers 60 more horsepower — essentially paying a luxury premium for the larger body and three-row cabin.
The Land Cruiser and 4Runner (MAX) are identical on both power figures (326 hp / 465 lb-ft) since they share the same powertrain, but the Land Cruiser starts ~$6,500 higher for its full-time AWD and locking differentials standard.
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I traded my 2019 onyx with Terra and 61k miles for a 2026 sequoia trd pro. Owned the sequoia for 6 months. Dumped it. Been shopping for a 200/lx for 2 months now. My 2019 onyx worth $6k more. Lol. Sequoia is loud. Plasticy. Same space inside essentially as 200 but drives much larger. Hate it. Everyone like me is finding out why we don’t like this new stuff. I will say in the sequoia’s defense. It’s fast. Super fast. Instant speed and torque. But the steering is drive by wire crap and the noise inside is un livable.
Bolting on larger turbos and giving LX a more aggressive tune is like the bare minimum thing Toyota could have done to differentiate. Which is fine if that's how they wanted to do it for this gen, but I just don't see how such a minimal move justifies the huge price gap. I know the LX offers a lot more than GX beyond the powertrain. But still. IMO the same twin turbo V6 just doesn't cut it here. Every vehicle I've ever bought the motor I'm getting is top of mind.
Toyota is trying to figure out how to make engines that won't leak or blow up.. Let's not stress them out right now and ask for larger turbos.
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Looking at a 2011 LC, $26k with 167,000 miles. It's a bit away from me, but service history looks pretty good. Any thoughts on rust here? Appreciate any advice.
Looking at a 2011 LC, $26k with 167,000 miles. It's a bit away from me, but service history looks pretty good. Any thoughts on rust here? Appreciate any advice.
Any pics of KDSS valve?
Going from an LC to a new Sequoia that was a predictable result. IMO, comparing the Sequoia to the LX is just wrong. They are not in the same league at all. Yes, including pricewise - for a good reason. Also comparing the LX with the GX, same result just a bit less distance. The LX700 is not cheap, I agree, but it is the closest to a 200 series successor we will get. Adjusted for inflation it is roughly the same as what a 200 used to cost new.
If you sit and drive one back to back with a GX you will understand the $35k difference. You might think it should be $15k or $20k but you will still feel it. I agree the 3row in the 700 is ridiculous. Order a 2row OT or, if you reeeally need a 3row just get an LX600 - you won't have the punch of the hybrid though. Still cramped but not that absolute crap show in the 700 or, even the Sequoia which adopts the same shelf solution.
Don't want any of this drama? Swallow the pride (and the depreciation) and get an Armada Pro4x. Not for me
, but some like the design.
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How rare is the 2 row OT?Going from an LC to a new Sequoia that was a predictable result. IMO, comparing the Sequoia to the LX is just wrong. They are not in the same league at all. Yes, including pricewise - for a good reason. Also comparing the LX with the GX, same result just a bit less distance. The LX700 is not cheap, I agree, but it is the closest to a 200 series successor we will get. Adjusted for inflation it is roughly the same as what a 200 used to cost new.
If you sit and drive one back to back with a GX you will understand the $35k difference. You might think it should be $15k or $20k but you will still feel it. I agree the 3row in the 700 is ridiculous. Order a 2row OT or, if you reeeally need a 3row just get an LX600 - you won't have the punch of the hybrid though. Still cramped but not that absolute crap show in the 700 or, even the Sequoia which adopts the same shelf solution.
Don't want any of this drama? Swallow the pride (and the depreciation) and get an Armada Pro4x. Not for me
I am not sure but haven't seen many for sale as pre-owned. I think it is still the case that you have to pre-order with a dealer if you want a new one. Don't quote me on that though, since I am not following the new sales. It is possible there are new 2rows available at dealers now. Honestly, in terms of LXOTs, they are pretty rare in my neck of the woods. Regular LXs not so much, I have seen some. I think I only saw one LXOT in the past six months after taking delivery of mine and it was a black one. Have not seen any earths. I really like that. In a sea of Prados, GXs, Runners, Defenders on and on I still feel special with the OT, just like I did with my old 200HE.
When I was at the dealer yest, she told me it's a 6-8 week wait time to order an OT.
They had two 700h luxury on the lot and a 600. No OTs coming in.
Even 3rows? This timing tracks with how long it took mine (2row) to be ordered and delivered. Totally worth the wait getting the credit and having a usable/decent trunk space.
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Modified 200-Mile 2021 Toyota Land Cruiser URJ200 Heritage Edition
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Brand new truck...why modify it???
Dude threw thousands of dollars of BB stainless skids on a truck that has never been driven.
I do not understand humanity.
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Modified 200-Mile 2021 Toyota Land Cruiser URJ200 Heritage Edition
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I know it's not even got break-in mileage, but it's 100% the seat covers that's gonna drive the price to the moon