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The Grenadier from the outside looks to me to be a cross between Defender 110 (not new ones) and a Mercedes G wagon.
Doesn’t seem that bad considering the defender and G wagon both look very good
 
On one hand, I wish I had a spare 80k for a Grenadier. On the other hand, nobody knows how reliable or durable it is. But it looks so cool. I’m so split
 
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That bmw gear selector seems odd sticking out of a H1 console..
definitely what my eye was drawn to as well and looks out of place for sure. I hope this platform performs well overall as I appreciate what they're trying to do.
 
definitely what my eye was drawn to as well and looks out of place for sure. I hope this platform performs well overall as I appreciate what they're trying to do.
Toyota uses it in one of "their" cars too.. :)
 
They’re all over my neck of the woods. Dealership looks like they have huge inventory so Kudos to Ineos for their manufacturing ramp up. Or does that mean low demand?

Either way, no thanks. These un-tested insta-bro mobiles are far too popular.
 
They’re all over my neck of the woods. Dealership looks like they have huge inventory so Kudos to Ineos for their manufacturing ramp up. Or does that mean low demand?

Either way, no thanks. These un-tested insta-bro mobiles are far too popular.
Based on what the Ineos reps told me, annual sales in the U.S. will be small. Substantially less than 200 platform sales when new. Still think you won't see many in the wild.

The downside to the 200 to me is it was not popular enough. Likely kept the 300 out of our market, but for long-term longevity, it is great to have a vehicle that sold 100k+ so there is better aftermarket and used part availability down the road.

Due to many regulations, the Grenadier became a bit more tech based that originally planned, but still the closest thing to old school mechanical that you can buy in the U.S. today, with a SFA to boot.

If Toyota made a 40 remake like this, everyone on here would be jumping to get one for good reason.

I'm excited to get a Grenadier, but not until I have a service center close to me for warranty, or I'll wait and buy used. Either way, I'll have one eventually.
 
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For the most part, all of the trucks sitting on lots are preorders waiting on accessories to arrive and be installed.
As for being untested, this is the second model year, but the first for North America. They had test vehicles all around the world for two years before that.
 
For the most part, all of the trucks sitting on lots are preorders waiting on accessories to arrive and be installed.
As for being untested, this is the second model year, but the first for North America. They had test vehicles all around the world for two years before that.
Yeah that’s all fine. Their R&D budget is nowhere near what the majors are which was my original, albeit poorly communicated point.
 
They’re all over my neck of the woods. Dealership looks like they have huge inventory so Kudos to Ineos for their manufacturing ramp up. Or does that mean low demand?

Either way, no thanks. These un-tested insta-bro mobiles are far too popular.
The price of the Grenadier and the limited numbers to be sold prevent it from being a Bro Mobile by any generally agreed upon definition of the term. Vehicles that can definitely be Bro Mobiles are Jeeps, Tacomas, really any rig with too much lift, too large of a tire and too many accessories. The Grenadier is mostly going to be purchased by the same individuals that led to the term Chelsea Tractor for the Land Rover Defender. These buyers are definitely not "Bros". There are a multitude of pejoratives to describe each group but they are not the same cohort.
 
I think all the issues tied to the 2023 and 24 models will prevent it from taking off. The truck has a lot of electrical issues, water leaks and all sort of annoyances and combined with a very dealer network it might turn off a lot of buyers.
 

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