Another One!... 1994 FZJ80 LS/4L60E Swap (Budget, Hopefully)

[ThatOldSixtie]

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Lauren

In the video you mentioned a google spread sheet of parts needed... I know you also started your own YT channel. Would you be able to share a that DOC or maybe you'll be going over it soon on vid?

I am look at the 6.0 and just trying to do as much research as possible before I get in over my head.

I second that, I'm going to be doing a similar budget build of this nature soon!

 

[808keith]

I did mine right at about 6K. If I didn’t use the Holley Xmax, I’d be under 5K. Lower if I didn’t refresh gaskets and such too.

 

[cbus22]

Long over due update!

TLDR; motor mounts are tacked into place, transfer case crossmember is bolted in, all accessories are clearanced, and I am working on wiring and mocking up exhaust next.

Heavy Reading Version:

1) I got the Marks adapter kit bolted to the 4l60E. I would recommend keeping the Chevy bolts around for that, as the socket cap bolts that Marks sends are pretty much useless. You cant get an allen key or an allen head on an impact on them to actually tighten them. Throw them in the trash or use them for decoration on something later. haha. Used Toyota red gasket maker, because hey, it's still a Toyota. Cutting down the spud shaft was pretty easy, no drama there. Pro tip: I went to bolt the TCase to the trans, and one of the bolts bottomed out and wanted to strip out. If you are standing over the trans, it is the top left bolt on the transfer case. It looks like it is too shallow, so drill it out and tap it a little more or just use a shorter bolt. Some others have reported that issue too.

2) Next, bolted the engine to the trans/ tcase setup. slid that puppy in. Used the stock crossmember location to locate the motor. After that I used some CruiserMatt's Off-Road LS Swap Brackets, tacked the plates to the frame, and the brackets to the plates, and bolted everything up. I had bolted the water pump and the PS pump and fan to the motor just to make sure everything sat correctly. Matt's brackets take the guess work out to an extent, but you still have to make sure the motor is square to the frame, and that the center of the crank is offset to the drivers side about an inch, inch and a half. To make that happen with how the PS pump interacts with the frame, I unbolted the steering box and am going to make a 14" thick spacer plate for between the box and the frame. That gives a little more room to get the fittings on there and not interfere.

3) Less LS swap related, more process related. I decided to do an LSPV/ ABS delete. The brake lines were pretty gnarly (rust), so less to replace, simpler system, don't have to deal with bleeding the ABS module. I got a Wilwood manual brake proportioning valve that will take the place of the 3 way fitting right under the master. More to come on that later.

4) Air box/ intake: I ordered a 1996/1997 air cleaner lid off ebay. The 1994 has the square outlet that the MAF bolts to, whereas the 96/97 has a round outlet that will look a lot cleaner. I didn't really want to pay $150 for a lid, but after some toying around with other ideas, went for it, as I like that it preserves the factory look. I thought about making a matching square bracket and fabbing the intake piping to go from square to round, but thought it would look a little bit janky. Also thought about getting a tight 90 and welding that to the top of the lid, but I don't think it will clear the hood. I am going with aluminum piping, 4". The simplest and cleanest in my opinion, aside from getting something custom bent as using a silicone reducer to go from the toyota lid up the the 4", a straight aluminum piece, a silicone 45, a straight aluminum piece, and then a 4" silicone tight 90 into the throttle body. I am waiting for the parts to come in, but should hopefully have them in by the end of next week. They will stay raw aluminum for now, but I will eventually cerakote them midnight bronze, wheels will be the same color.

That is where I am at the moment. The big things left the figure out are where to mount the ECU, what do I need to do to get the cruise control to work, AC, and transmission wiring. I feel like it's almost the home stretch? Looking forward to pulling it all apart, pressure washing, and final assembly.
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Can you share more detail about using the stock crossmember location to locate the motor? I'm gathering parts including Matt's mounts for a 4l60e into a '94 as well.

 

[cruisermatt]

Can you share more detail about using the stock crossmember location to locate the motor? I'm gathering parts including Matt's mounts for a 4l60e into a '94 as well.

It's as simple as it sounds. Bolt engine, transmission, adapter all together and bolt to stock crossemember which will locate the drive train in the correct spot. Then bolt my engine mount brackets to the engine and weld them to your frame rails. My mounting bracket kit takes care of the left to right offset.

 

[cbus22]

It's as simple as it sounds. Bolt engine, transmission, adapter all together and bolt to stock crossemember which will locate the drive train in the correct spot. Then bolt my engine mount brackets to the engine and weld them to your frame rails. My mounting bracket kit takes care of the left to right offset.

That's great, I was hesitant to believe it could be as simple as it sounded.

 

[GearGeek]

Kinda unrelated, but I will hijack my own thread... I made a cool thing for the 91-94 peeps out there!

So I have been adamant about the only place Toyota fails is their lack of cupholders. Especially in the 80. I need hydration! So I recently got a 3D printer and thought, hmmm... I can solve this!

I started with a pretty simple design based on one I saw on Maker World. But it didn't fit right, the lid to the console was hard to open, AND NONE OF MY CUPS OR BOTTLES WOULD FIT! It also left something to be desired in the visual department as well. First order of business was making a Nalgene fit, which was harder than I thought.

Next was form.



Finally, I wanted the fitment to be premium- pressure fit into the cupholder so you don't have to worry about your drinks spilling, but you could remove it if you wanted to. Also no drilling. All of the other cupholder solutions require drilling, and honestly I don't want to do that. What if I want to go back to stock at some point? I change my mind like most people change their underwear haha.

On attempt #4, I got all 3! So behold..... The SuperFancy Cupholder!!!!

It will fit all LHD 91-94 80 series with the square cupholder on the side of the center console. It is made of PETG (for now! I am experimenting with PETG-CF and ASA right now also). Should be a perfect blend of UV and heat resistance to keep my excessive amounts of caffeine and water stable on road trips, because no one like a lap full of bev. lol.

The are up for pre-order at **PRE-ORDER** 91-94 80 Series SuperFancy Cupholder — Red Dog Overland - https://www.reddogoverland.com/shop/p/pre-order-91-94-80-series-superfancy-cupholder if you want to pick one up! I will most likely be shipping first or second week of July. I am just tweaking some color options right now!

holla if you have any questions!! They will be available in cocoa and black to start!

-Lauren

 

[Broski]

so your doing a LS swap but don't want to drill a few holes in the console ?

 

[JohnnyFish]

Kinda unrelated, but I will hijack my own thread... I made a cool thing for the 91-94 peeps out there!

So I have been adamant about the only place Toyota fails is their lack of cupholders. Especially in the 80. I need hydration! So I recently got a 3D printer and thought, hmmm... I can solve this!

I started with a pretty simple design based on one I saw on Maker World. But it didn't fit right, the lid to the console was hard to open, AND NONE OF MY CUPS OR BOTTLES WOULD FIT! It also left something to be desired in the visual department as well. First order of business was making a Nalgene fit, which was harder than I thought.

Next was form.



Finally, I wanted the fitment to be premium- pressure fit into the cupholder so you don't have to worry about your drinks spilling, but you could remove it if you wanted to. Also no drilling. All of the other cupholder solutions require drilling, and honestly I don't want to do that. What if I want to go back to stock at some point? I change my mind like most people change their underwear haha.

On attempt #4, I got all 3! So behold..... The SuperFancy Cupholder!!!!

It will fit all LHD 91-94 80 series with the square cupholder on the side of the center console. It is made of PETG (for now! I am experimenting with PETG-CF and ASA right now also). Should be a perfect blend of UV and heat resistance to keep my excessive amounts of caffeine and water stable on road trips, because no one like a lap full of bev. lol.

The are up for pre-order at **PRE-ORDER** 91-94 80 Series SuperFancy Cupholder — Red Dog Overland - https://www.reddogoverland.com/shop/p/pre-order-91-94-80-series-superfancy-cupholder if you want to pick one up! I will most likely be shipping first or second week of July. I am just tweaking some color options right now!

holla if you have any questions!! They will be available in cocoa and black to start!

-Lauren

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My '96 & '97 80's have that center console side useless cup holder as well. Will this not fit, or is it just not tested?

 

[77mustard40]

My '96 & '97 80's have that center console side useless cup holder as well. Will this not fit, or is it just not tested?

It’s perfect for my EarPods

 

[GearGeek]

so your doing a LS swap but don't want to drill a few holes in the console ?

Hahahaha hey now, the interior pristine and the so is the engine bay Factory is factory babyyyy haha.

 

[GearGeek]

My '96 & '97 80's have that center console side useless cup holder as well. Will this not fit, or is it just not tested?

It's a little different, I will make a version for that soon!

 

[tmxmotorsports]

so your doing a LS swap but don't want to drill a few holes in the console ?

Holes in the console eww.

 

[Broski]

I'm pretty particular and I'm sure others have there preference. but center console would easily replaced out of any one of the many part out rigs.

Kinda unrelated, but I will hijack my own thread... I made a cool thing for the 91-94 peeps out there!

So I have been adamant about the only place Toyota fails is their lack of cupholders. Especially in the 80. I need hydration! So I recently got a 3D printer and thought, hmmm... I can solve this!

I started with a pretty simple design based on one I saw on Maker World. But it didn't fit right, the lid to the console was hard to open, AND NONE OF MY CUPS OR BOTTLES WOULD FIT! It also left something to be desired in the visual department as well. First order of business was making a Nalgene fit, which was harder than I thought.

Next was form.



Finally, I wanted the fitment to be premium- pressure fit into the cupholder so you don't have to worry about your drinks spilling, but you could remove it if you wanted to. Also no drilling. All of the other cupholder solutions require drilling, and honestly I don't want to do that. What if I want to go back to stock at some point? I change my mind like most people change their underwear haha.

On attempt #4, I got all 3! So behold..... The SuperFancy Cupholder!!!!

It will fit all LHD 91-94 80 series with the square cupholder on the side of the center console. It is made of PETG (for now! I am experimenting with PETG-CF and ASA right now also). Should be a perfect blend of UV and heat resistance to keep my excessive amounts of caffeine and water stable on road trips, because no one like a lap full of bev. lol.

The are up for pre-order at **PRE-ORDER** 91-94 80 Series SuperFancy Cupholder — Red Dog Overland - https://www.reddogoverland.com/shop/p/pre-order-91-94-80-series-superfancy-cupholder if you want to pick one up! I will most likely be shipping first or second week of July. I am just tweaking some color options right now!

holla if you have any questions!! They will be available in cocoa and black to start!

-Lauren

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With this cupholder I would be constantly banging my elbow on it.
This one in contrast is out of the way works really well and has two tiny screws that are optional that I used because I put 2 large water flask in it

I can't see ever wanting to remove it and and it leaves the useless cup holder for a cold beer on the trail