Alert, Alert, Alert----- Transmission valve body wire housing block! --- Have you looked into yours? Capillary action drawing ATF in!

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Good point, TM.

Nobody needs to runout and buy these, wire harnesses! Even if, they find grease in wire housing block.


At this point. This is a Exploratory Fact Finding Alert. Which I edited heading to alert (perhaps unjustly) just last night.

Point of Thread:
  1. Get people looking.
  2. Post pictures of their wire harness housing block. So we can see what's normal and what's not.
  3. Report if any issues or not, that may be associated. To help with diagnostic work.
  4. If wire harness R&R. Was in respond to issue(s). If so, did issues, if any, clear-up.
  5. See if this needs be in our Preventive Maintenance (PM), scheduled. Or do we just wait for symptom(s) and what are those.
  6. See if Toyota change in wire harness P/N. Is actually change in how manufacture, in response to issue (capillary action). If so, is change effective.
  7. Find if Toyota was adding some sort of grease to Transmission Wire Housing Block(s)and or within or wires sheathing themselves and why!
In the over 27 to 18 (1998-2007) years of the North American 100 series. Report incidence of contaminations and it being associated with issue, had been nearly nonexistence.

@Unrulykid 2002 LX w/122K. Showed grease in the male (main A/T harness) side. Grease look clean and purposeful placed there. He (2nd owner), was relatively sure, his harness, had NOT been touch since factory installed. But that is subject, based on service history of PO. He had ZERO issues.

So is it normal to find grease, in these wire harnesses or housing blocks (plugs):
  • Did factory pack grease in wire housing block. Perhaps as a plug, to stop migration of ATF capillary action.
  • Was grease pack in wires inside sheathing, then migrated into wire housing block.
  • Was grease add by someone, after factory build date.

Beneficial or non event of, grease or oil, in/on wire connection.
Typically we think of oil or certain types of grease, on wire contacts or in wire housing blocks. As beneficial/protective, to wire connections or non event. Few examples of benefits or non event:
  1. White-Lithium grease on battery post, mitigates oxidation. Should be noted: Toyota advises against, use of any grease on post or clamps of battery.
  2. Dielectric grease found in some wire housing block. That, appears factory placed there. Which I've presumed as moisture block.
  3. The 5.7L 3UR (200 series). 1 in 1000 oil leak issues, from base of spark plug tube. Resulting spark plug tubes fill with oil. Toyota calls a non event, not effecting spark.

Maybe it would make the Moderator happier if you used just one “ALERT” in your title instead of three? Kind of like a 1 alarm fire vs a 3 Alarm fire 🤣 lol

  • “Dielectric grease found in some wire housing block. That, appears factory placed there. Which I've presumed as moisture block.”
One of the links I sent you stated that dielectric grease is used in certain connectors during assembly to mitigate fretting wear of the connecting pins and seats in certain operating conditions prone to ocilation. vibration. One additional use beyond moisture block.

Maybe not random but factory predetermined which connectors get DE grease?

Another thought
Over the production years our trucks were made in different plants- it’s possible there were some nominally different assembly practices.

 
Newest P/N 82125-60651 Transmission wire (CASE to valve body) harness.
The gloss seen in bottom. Is a hard solid substances. It appears some injection tool fits over pins, sitting with end square at bottom. You can see a square at bottom is not coated (not glossy). Did this newest wire harness, adequately address capillary action. IDK! So we'll need to keep inspection on PM list.
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Looks like Fluid Film. Does it smell like a sheep?
I can't smell any thing, in case bolted on side of wire housing block. Which I've Valve body and harness out on the bench.
Had my GF smell. She has supper sense of smell, said: "Not a sheep smell. "Almost no sent" "No difference from valve body smell".

No signs undercarriage spray(s) on any A/T or wires:
As I noted earlier. Undercarriage was coat with PB blaster shield. My first thought when shifting issue first felt. Was, could it be spray contaminated on wire, in wire housing block or ground wire. First thing I Inspecting, was A/T wire harnesses. No signs undercarriage spray(s) on any.

1. I'm not aware of any TSBs on this, but I haven't checked either. I used a 2005 GX470 FSM to diagnose the issue.
2. I don't recall seeing any grease/gel/etc. in this or any other connectors on my GX470, and I recall it being somewhat hard to remove.
3. See above - I haven't seen any gel anywhere.
4. Not sure on the reason for the revised part number. But, I can confirm the wire colors are different in the new one than they were in my 2007 GX470. It made it harder to re-install the harness, and it would be easy to hook up the solenoids wrong. Some of the routing might have also been different. It was most definitely NOT the exact same part as what came out of my GX.

My situation is unique as likely the only reason I ever threw a code was due to my lockup switch. Otherwise, I would have drove around for indefinitely with a sloppy-shifting transmission, and blamed it on the age/mileage of the clutches and solenoids :).
Good info. Thanks!

I'll compare my old to new wire, for color change, etc.

I'm also going to get the 03 and 04-05 Transmission wires. I'll compare them all.
This statement doesn’t resolve anything and I don’t remember if there was a “fix” for this weird siphoning action. But…when I was a tech with Mercedes in Colorado (the last 4 of 30yrs with Benz) 2000 - 2004 we had cases of capillary action. The atf would flood the transmission ecu.
Was there some DTC or issue, that prompted looking at ECU? One that may have been attributed to the ATF?

Until now. I've not considered oil on wires as a concerning issue with respect to current/resistance. Any concern I had, was more with oils effect on plastic/vinyl/rubber. I've been much more concerned, with oxidation inhibiting current, which oil or DG protects against.

Although, I have found what type of grease on contacts matters:
I use While Lithium Grease (WLG) on cleaned battery post & clamp, always. Once I had run out of WLG. So uses a grease made for brakes, door hinges, etc. It resulted in inhibiting current (dead batteries). So type and composition matters.

This is not related to the the transmission, but I think the 2UZ VVTI uses the same cam position sensors mounted to the the side of the head in between each bank of injectors. On the 3UZ in my LS I had found oil in the connectors of those sensors and it was beginning to work it's way into the pins of the harness. Another point that 100 series VVTi owners might want to look into.
Interesting. Shows we need to be alert, every time a wire housing block opened up.

On the 3UZ heads. Sometimes the spark plug tube fills up with oil. Cause is seepage and capillary action from bad seal, where tube press fits pressed/fit on head. Toyota/Lexus calls non event, and will not warranty. The Toyota cure is replace the heads. One guy in the country developed an in place fix. When I looked at that issues. I found some engine are designed with COP (coil on plug) emerged in oil. But their rubber and plastic would be of type to handle motor oil. So when do we need be concerned with oil, AFT or mix in wires. :hmm: Based on the few cases here in this thread, NOW!

I was using AI, asking would ATF or ATF mixed with a Dielectric grease. Result in electrical issues and why?. It said YES. When into detail examples.

This thread is showing real word examples of issues from this capillary action of ATF.

Maybe it would make the Moderator happier if you used just one “ALERT” in your title instead of three? Kind of like a 1 alarm fire vs a 3 Alarm fire 🤣 lol

  • “Dielectric grease found in some wire housing block. That, appears factory placed there. Which I've presumed as moisture block.”
One of the links I sent you stated that dielectric grease is used in certain connectors during assembly to mitigate fretting wear of the connecting pins and seats in certain operating conditions prone to ocilation. vibration. One additional use beyond moisture block.

Maybe not random but factory predetermined which connectors get DE grease?

Another thought
Over the production years our trucks were made in different plants- it’s possible there were some nominally different assembly practices.

LOL..... Okay I'll change to one ALERT!

Is there any dielectric grease (DG) factory installed, wire harness manufacture injected, shop added. If it is added. Is for protection from moisture, vibration and or possible to act like dam. IDK! Those are some one of the question I hope we get answered. Ones, that as more people inspect and post pictures of finding, we may learn.

Why:
For one should we add DG to new transmission wire housing block?
Or
Would adding DG, create a problem if ATF gets to and mixes with?

This picture from a 02LX clean 112K miles CA Lexus, from @Unrulykid. Where he (2nd owner) saw nothing to indicate Transmission case wire housing had ever been opened. No issues!
To me, looks very much like some type Dielectric Grease.
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I don't often unlock the main transmission wire housing block on top of bell housing. But I did find the one picture I post in earlier. The locking wire housing block of it, does look like a DG used. Pictures below from 07LC "The Unicorn (overheat blown engine)" A/T main harness locking wire housing block on bell housing.
Looks like DG was added and likely at factory.

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This is exactly what mine looked like when I was having issues a recently. See my thread below.

@EAST TN 07LX470 stated his case wire housing block. Look "exactly" like my gray goo. He also had same DTC and shifting issues. I don't know if he had been in deep water or sprayed undercarriage. Perhaps he'll reveal more info. But his and mine being the same, is indication we've issue that may in time affect all.
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I can't smell any thing, in case bolted on side of wire housing block. Which I've Valve body and harness out on the bench.
Had my GF smell. She has supper sense of smell, said: "Not a sheep smell. "Almost no sent" "No difference from valve body smell".

No signs undercarriage spray(s) on any A/T or wires:
As I noted earlier. Undercarriage was coat with PB blaster shield. My first thought when shifting issue first felt. Was, could it be spray contaminated on wire, in wire housing block or ground wire. First thing I Inspecting, was A/T wire harnesses. No signs undercarriage spray(s) on any.


Good info. Thanks!

I'll compare my old to new wire, for color change, etc.

I'm also going to get the 03 and 04-05 Transmission wires. I'll compare them all.

Was there some DTC or issue, that prompted looking at ECU? One that may have been attributed to the ATF?

Until now. I've not considered oil on wires as a concerning issue with respect to current/resistance. Any concern I had, was more with oils effect on plastic/vinyl/rubber. I've been much more concerned, with oxidation inhibiting current, which oil or DG protects against.

Although, I have found what type of grease on contacts matters:
I use While Lithium Grease (WLG) on cleaned battery post & clamp, always. Once I had run out of WLG. So uses a grease made for brakes, door hinges, etc. It resulted in inhibiting current (dead batteries). So type and composition matters.


Interesting. Shows we need to be alert, every time a wire housing block opened up.

On the 3UZ heads. Sometimes the spark plug tube fills up with oil. Cause is seepage and capillary action from bad seal, where tube press fits pressed/fit on head. Toyota/Lexus calls non event, and will not warranty. The Toyota cure is replace the heads. One guy in the country developed an in place fix. When I looked at that issues. I found some engine are designed with COP (coil on plug) emerged in oil. But their rubber and plastic would be of type to handle motor oil. So when do we need be concerned with oil, AFT or mix in wires. :hmm: Based on the few cases here in this thread, NOW!

I was using AI, asking would ATF or ATF mixed with a Dielectric grease. Result in electrical issues and why?. It said YES. When into detail examples.

This thread is showing real word examples of issues from this capillary action of ATF.


LOL..... Okay I'll change to one ALERT!

Is there any dielectric grease (DG) factory installed, wire harness manufacture injected, shop added. If it is added. Is for protection from moisture, vibration and or possible to act like dam. IDK! Those are some one of the question I hope we get answered. Ones, that as more people inspect and post pictures of finding, we may learn.

Why:
For one should we add DG to new transmission wire housing block?
Or
Would adding DG, create a problem if ATF gets to and mixes with?

I found this picture from a 02LX clean 112K miles CA Lexus, from @Unrulykid. Where he (2nd owner) saw nothing to indicate Transmission case wire housing had ever been opened. No issues!
To me, looks very much like a D-grease.
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I don't often unlock the main transmission wire housing block on top of bell housing. But I did find the one picture I post in earlier. The locking wire housing block of it, does look like a DG used. Pictures below from 07LC "The Unicorn (overheat blown engine)" A/T main harness locking wire housing block on bell housing.
Looks like DG was added and likely at factory.

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@EAST TN 07LX470 stated his case wire housing block. Look "exactly" like my gray goo. He also had same DTC and shifting issues. I don't know if he had been in deep water or sprayed undercarriage. Perhaps he'll reveal more info. But his and mine being the same, is indication we've issue that may in time affect all.
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No deep water. I am pretty religious about keeping the undercarriage sprayed off in the winter. Other than that the only water that mine sees is a rainy road hahaha. If I have time this weekend I will try to check the connector again to see if any goo has returned.
 
The “Smells Like Sheep” comment could get a lot of discussion mileage elsewhere on the forum- lol 🤣
 
The “Smells Like Sheep” comment could get a lot of discussion mileage elsewhere on the forum- lol 🤣
Woolwax and Fluid Film are both very lotion-like....moisturizing on the skin!
 
No deep water. I am pretty religious about keeping the undercarriage sprayed off in the winter. Other than that the only water that mine sees is a rainy road hahaha. If I have time this weekend I will try to check the connector again to see if any goo has returned.
@EAST TN 07LX470
I don't recall if you mentioned. Did you flush before and or after your A/T DTC 2714, shift issues and subsequent wire housing block clean up.
How many miles since wire housing block clean up?
Any hint of A/T shift issue. i.e. delay or bump, etc. since wire housing block clean up?
 
@EAST TN 07LX470
I don't recall if you mentioned. Did you flush before and or after your A/T DTC 2714, shift issues and subsequent wire housing block clean up.
How many miles since wire housing block clean up?
Any hint of A/T shift issue. i.e. delay or bump, etc. since wire housing block clean up?
I did a 14 quart fluid exchange, pan drop, and filter replacement at 277,400 miles. The issues I described previously started at 281,540 miles. Since correcting the issues I am at 285,600 miles with no noticeable issues to note. When I dug in and did all of my troubleshooting at 281,540 miles I did drop the pan to inspect and refilled it with fresh fluid enough to top it back up.
 
I spoke with Toyota Master tech, at Dealership yesterday. He's been there ~30 years now. He's one of my go-to-tech. Unfortunately, shop was slammed. So he had no time to talk.

I did showed him same picture as in OP. Instantly he said without need for a second glance: "Dielectric grease and ATF mix."
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There should be update to wire diagrams for the 06-07. To reflect color change. Anyone have access that can check, if diagrams updated.
Newest wire P/N 82125-60651 vs 07 factory install.
SLU solenoid wires (pointing at new) color shad, so different. One might say different color.
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SI solenoid Yellow wire replaced red. Blue darker shad on new.
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The wire colors on the updated OEM harness I purchased in 2024 (8212560651) and my OEM 2007 GX470 harness are definitely different. As are the wire sheathing and wire lengths. In fact, its not possible to route the revised harness in the same manner as the OEM harness as the sheathing prevents it. It also make it easy to accidentally connect the harness to the incorrect solenoids. It's really a substantial revision to the part. I can't help but wonder if the valve body was also revised to accommodate the harness routing.

2007 GX470 OEM Harness (below)
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2024 purchased aftermarket transmission wire harness (8212560651 - below)
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I over lay my Newest wire P/N 82125-60651 it looks to me like in will fit as old did.

I see where you started wrong (purple arrow) bunching wire (shorting). Should be tucked under divider plate, that has T06 (in second picture) stamp on it (yellow line rout). Which resulted in shorten to wire at far end to SLT Red arrow).
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The problem is the sheathing. It's one long piece from the S1 solenoid to the SL1 solenoid. It's at least an inch longer than the sheathing in the 2007 harness (note the 2007 harness also has some sheathing going to the SLT solenoid that the new harness lacks). If the new harness is tucked as suggested, there is then not enough slack in the harness to reach the SL1 and SLT solenoids. I'm not sure how to correct that other than to install it routed differently (like I did) or cut the sheathing (could be done but I'd rather not).
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At some point I'll do a pan drop and fluid exchange on my mom's 2023 T4R, which should have the 82125-60651 in it already. I'll be curious how it's routed compared to this. If i did route it wrong, I'll correct it on mine the next time I do a fluid exchange :).
 
Here is a picture of the original wiring harness in my 2008 GX470 after dropping the pan an removing the filter. Unfortunately I did not take an 'after' photo since I only used this photo as a backup when replacing the wire. I don't recall having any issues replacing the wire in terms of wire lengths etc. Not sure if it matters, my part came from Partsouq, not from North American stock.

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Mine was from Partsouq as well. For the record, It's totally possible I hooked it up somewhat incorrectly. But, the part definitely has different colored wires and sheathing lengths/layout than the OEM 2007 part did.
 
In case of blue oxidation in A/T wire housing block, I was alluding to. It's very unlikely related to coolant in these cases. The housing block, is the one near back of A/T of lower diver side. I've near seen coolant on this block. They housing block, has water tight seals inside and pig tails have rubber seal. The seals do fail.

Add moisture to copper, we get blue green oxidation. I've found more than one system with oxidation, that increased resistance of a wire. Due to oxidation on contact pins within a wire housing block or even pins of a fuse.

I had not, though much about ATF on contact pin, have same effect. But apparently it does, with time.

Here's the one I referred to: red is seal, blue arrows point to pins with blue oxidation. No sign of any oil. But he to had A/T shifting issues.
Taken form @TwistedCon thread 2004 Transmission Solenoid Issue
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Once in the "Big 3" thread. I posted about a conversation I had with airframe mechanic. He said, :when you see this oxidation in wire, you can bet it has travel under sheathing along wire strains. Which result in increased resistance. When they see oxidation on wires. They don't bother testing resistance. They just replace.

Examples, below are to show various colors and looks. Of other than oil, causes of electrical issue.
I see: Some blue, some white, some just dirty looking oxidation some rusty corrosion. These are for the most part moisture, acid and or salt related. None were near coolant. All have increased resistance. All result in electrical issue.
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Did you get any pictures, that you care to post here?
Fascinating. I just posted in the "slow window" thread about how corrosion at electrical connections causes a lot of problems.

That green corrosion on the ground wire above the underhood fuse box is a great example. It'll drop the voltage of everything that passes through it, and it's substantially (if not entirely) preventable: keep the battery charged, keep connections clean.
 
What is very clear. Oxidation on wire housing pins, contacts, wire lugs, even in wire sheathing between strains of wires. Increases resistance between signal source and point relying on specific signal/current. Which will, result in functional issue. We've seen examples of this often, in 100 series tech section.

What is not as clear. Would this GOO or even just used ATF, effect current flow. Between pins in a wire housing block and or wire strains. When we assume high mileage ATF, has more insoluble the higher the mileage and or more hard/heavy use on A/T. Insoluble like: Iron, copper, boron, magnesium, aluminum, zinc & lead. A.I says YES:

A.I. Summary
The condition you described would definitely affect electrical performance. The primary result would be increased resistance and potential signal interference or loss due to the contaminated fluid creating poor contact points, rather than a direct short circuit. This is a known issue with some vehicles (e.g., Mercedes-Benz 722.6 transmission) where fluid wicks into the harness, necessitating cleaning and replacement of connectors.


A.I. ?
Would automatic Transmission (A/T) fluid (ATF), with 150,000 miles of use. Which has some insoluble, like iron & lead in ATF, due to wear within A/T. That by capillary action wicked through wire sheathing and between strains of wires within. Then into wire housing block on outside of A/T. Then mixed with dielectric grease, within a wire housing block. Mixture then getting between connecting pins within the wire housing block. Which wire harness and wire housing block. Would also be subjected to heating and cooling cycles. From -10F to 200f. Affect current flow, between TCM/ECM and solenoids. Perhaps increase resistance in wires and or result in cross current between connecting pins?

Yes, used automatic transmission fluid (ATF) with wear particles wicked into a wiring harness and connector block would likely affect current flow, resulting in increased resistance and potential signal issues, but is less likely to cause a direct "cross current" in the traditional sense.
Here is a breakdown of why this would cause problems:
1. Increased Resistance
Contamination: While new, clean ATF is an excellent insulator (a dielectric fluid), used ATF contains polar additives and, critically, metallic wear particles (iron, lead, etc.) and oxidation byproducts. These contaminants make the fluid more conductive (or less insulating) than clean oil, especially when mixed with dielectric grease, which is also an insulator.
The resulting mixture in the connector is a foreign substance at the contact point.
Reduced Contact Area: The primary issue is the physical presence of this contaminated mixture between the connecting pins. The fluid film and trapped metal particles act as a barrier or create poor contact points, reducing the effective metal-to-metal contact area of the pins.
Corrosion/Degradation: The presence of contaminants and the heat cycling can promote oxidation or corrosion of the metal terminals over time, which significantly increases contact resistance.
Signal Integrity: Increased resistance at connection points can lead to faulty signal readings or even signal loss, which would directly impact the communication between the TCM/ECM and the solenoids, affecting transmission operation.
2. Heating and Cooling Cycles
The repeated heating and cooling cycles from -10°F to 200°F would exacerbate the problem:
Expansion and Contraction: Thermal cycling causes the materials (pins, plastic housing, fluid) to expand and contract at different rates. This constant movement can physically dislodge terminals, further degrade the contact points, and help the fluid migrate deeper into the harness and connector.
Viscosity Changes: The viscosity of the fluid changes with temperature. At higher temperatures (200°F), the fluid is less viscous and can more easily flow or spread across surfaces, potentially reaching more pin interfaces.
Accelerated Degradation: High temperatures accelerate chemical reactions, including the oxidation of the oil and the corrosion of the metal components, worsening the overall contamination and resistance over time.
3. Cross Current/Short Circuit Risk
While pure, new ATF is a good insulator, the used, contaminated mixture is less so.
Conductive Path: If enough metallic particles accumulate to form a continuous, low-resistance path between adjacent pins, a cross-current (or short circuit) could theoretically occur. However, the fluid and grease generally remain somewhat insulating, making a hard short less likely than simply high resistance.
Capacitance Issues: The difference in the electrical properties (permittivity) of the oil/grease mixture compared to air can also affect high-frequency digital signals by increasing cross-talk capacitance, which could also cause intermittent signal problems.
Summary
The condition you described would definitely affect electrical performance. The primary result would be increased resistance and potential signal interference or loss due to the contaminated fluid creating poor contact points, rather than a direct short circuit. This is a known issue with some vehicles (e.g., Mercedes-Benz 722.6 transmission) where fluid wicks into the harness, necessitating cleaning and replacement of connectors.

Here's Blackstone report. ~170K miles ATF, was not sampled. First sample taken, was on ~5K miles after a 12 qt ATF flush at ~170K mile. It began very noticeable shifting issues, few hundred miles before sample taken. Second sample was ~440 miles after fresh 12qt ATF flush and inline filter added. OP wire housing block with GOO, is from same vehicle.
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Came across this service bulletin from Toyota regarding transmission wire issues in '04 and '05 Land Cruisers with A750 transmission. As per the bulletin the wiring harness (part number 82125-35130) should be replaced with an identical part number, in case of a P2742. Below is a copy of the relevant table from that TSB.

So, there is some history of wiring harness issues around that time with 100 series and 4Runner (and the equivalent Lexus vehicles as well, I assume). Note: the TSB is from Toyota Canada, I could not find a similar one from Toyota USA. Edit: here is the TSB from Toyota USA.

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Came across this service bulletin from Toyota regarding transmission wire issues in '04 and '05 Land Cruisers with A750 transmission. As per the bulletin the wiring harness (part number 82125-35130) should be replaced with an identical part number, in case of a P2742. Below is a copy of the relevant table from that TSB.

So, there is some history of wiring harness issues around that time with 100 series and 4Runner (and the equivalent Lexus vehicles as well, I assume). Note: the TSB is from Toyota Canada, I could not find a similar one from Toyota USA. Edit: here is the TSB from Toyota USA.

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Interesting.
Interesting how early that TSB came out, which was Nov. 2005. Also that it was related to AT fluid temp #2

Additionally, with USA VIN's. Today, I come up with different P/N for 2005 and the CA P/N -35150 was used in USA 06-07:
-35130 was/is used in 04-05 (08.2003 -05.2005)
-35150 was for 06-07 (05.2005-05.2007). current -60651, replaces -60650, -35150
 
Found another case of oil wicking through a wiring harness. In this case engine oil making it into the ECM from a leaking VVTi oil control valve on a 3UZ-FE with roughly 260,000 miles. This solenoid is the same part as used on the 2UZ-FE. Just something to be aware of. Up to a few years ago, I never thought this was possible in Toyota-land.

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