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Thanks. That was a total WAG on my part.
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Considering the near fit, maybe weld an M6 fender washer(reasonably small OD) near edge of core support(aligned to proper condensor mounting patter) and drill (the overlap of part of core support) to match your bolt pattern. Hidden behind the condensor tabs, doubt you would even notice the washers semi straddling the edge of core support.
This is a factory A/C truck out of Australia. The condensor is missing. The mounting brackets are stamped steel plates that are sandwiched between the radiator mounting flanges and the core support.
My guess is they were serviced as part of the core support. I can not find them listed. The radiator is the same part number for with and without A/C. That means they do not come with the radiator. The A/C truck core support is a different part number.
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Thanks so much for posting that information! So what size donation would I need to make to get my hands on that pair?
Thanks so much for posting that information! So what size donation would I need to make to get my hands on that pair?
You'd have to buy the truck. But, it's not on the block. If it was you'd also get barn doors.
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Well shucks. Any chance of getting the approximate distance from the face of the mounting tab to the flange on the core support?You'd have to buy the truck. But, it's not on the block. If it was you'd also get barn doors.
Edit: Also would be nice to document the year of that 55.
It's a 1978.
I'll get the tape measure out.
I'll get the tape measure out.
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FWIW I thought they might have come with the kit. But that was just a WAG based on this diagram in the Parts Diagrams.
| 88300 | COOLER & ACCESSORY ASSY | ||
| 88300-60050 | (01/1975 - 01/1976) | 1 | |
| 88300-60051 | (09/1977 - 12/1978) | 1 |
That is a generic illustration.
I may be the only person that has one of these. I've never seen another copy in 46 years. I've been clear through it. There are no brackets listed.
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Okay so I feel pretty stupid, as usual, and it's @cruiserbrett for the win. Thanks!!
The condenser does fit going in from the front and it looks like I just need to drill holes in the core support flange. I guess I should have broken out the tape measure instead of trying to make it fit. This time I cut the two triangular mounting tabs off that a PO installed and also removed the hood latch catch and support rod. So frigging obvious now.
@cruiserdan, thanks so much for the advice. I am assuming at this point that those brackets fit a different condenser because my condenser mounting tabs are wider than the core supports by a good 1/4" or so and won't fit in between on the radiator side.
Edit: Just checked the condenser part numbers for 1978 and they are the same. So I don't know.
Australia: 88460-60020
USA: 88460-60020
It looks like with the mounting flanges on the front side of the core support flange there will be about 1/4" between the radiator and the condenser.
The condenser does fit going in from the front and it looks like I just need to drill holes in the core support flange. I guess I should have broken out the tape measure instead of trying to make it fit. This time I cut the two triangular mounting tabs off that a PO installed and also removed the hood latch catch and support rod. So frigging obvious now.
@cruiserdan, thanks so much for the advice. I am assuming at this point that those brackets fit a different condenser because my condenser mounting tabs are wider than the core supports by a good 1/4" or so and won't fit in between on the radiator side.
Edit: Just checked the condenser part numbers for 1978 and they are the same. So I don't know.
Australia: 88460-60020
USA: 88460-60020
It looks like with the mounting flanges on the front side of the core support flange there will be about 1/4" between the radiator and the condenser.
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There are so few factory air 55s. It's really hard to judge what's right when. I wish this one had the condenser present.
In the US, Toyota never sold kits to add air to a 40 or a 55. It was line-installed only. Some other parts of the world did get Nippon Denso kits to retro-fit it. Our Australian truck is a retro-fit that was installed in Australia.
If an American wanted A/C the only kits were aftermarket. Clardy out of Texas was the most common aftermarket kit builder. They used York compressors and all the components looked totally out of place in the vehicles but they did blow cold air.
In the US, Toyota never sold kits to add air to a 40 or a 55. It was line-installed only. Some other parts of the world did get Nippon Denso kits to retro-fit it. Our Australian truck is a retro-fit that was installed in Australia.
If an American wanted A/C the only kits were aftermarket. Clardy out of Texas was the most common aftermarket kit builder. They used York compressors and all the components looked totally out of place in the vehicles but they did blow cold air.
What you have just discovered is exactly how every one in the US I have ever seen had the condensor mounted(early or late). (probably near 40 US FJ55s with A/C)
@cDan, were there actually any FJ55's that truly came to the US from the Japanese factory with the A/C installed? Not a single "Factory" A/C truck I have ever seen in the US had those brackets. Also, as the blue and white PIO stickers indicated (seemed to have shown up more regularly in ~'76 and later), it is likely a port installed option, of the Nippon Denso kit in a box added at the port, hence lack of brackets?
@cDan, were there actually any FJ55's that truly came to the US from the Japanese factory with the A/C installed? Not a single "Factory" A/C truck I have ever seen in the US had those brackets. Also, as the blue and white PIO stickers indicated (seemed to have shown up more regularly in ~'76 and later), it is likely a port installed option, of the Nippon Denso kit in a box added at the port, hence lack of brackets?
Further, the semi hap-hazzard placement of clamps, use of sheet metal screws for certain clamps and brackets, wiring routing, and certainly the copper refrigerant line routing would suggest a less than Japanese level of install precision. the only single thing I can undoubtedly say that was precise, or close to precise was the hole placement in the firewall.
I'm not clear on that. I started in February of 1979. That was one month after A/C became available on FJ40s. We could not buy "factory" kits for any Land Cruisers. We did have factory Nippon Denso kits for virtually everything else. When we needed to air-up a Cruiser the kits came from Clardy.
Any "PIO" installs would not have been done by TMS USA. The private distributors were another kettle of fish. That would be Southeast Toyota and Gulf States Toyota.
I dont have that fiche, but I have a paper version PAC-063 that is all the NipponDenso A/C parts from the entire toyota line up until 1977 for the US. And there are definitely full kit numbers in there. I would not know whether they were actually available stateside though.
I do miss the old fiches. Too bad so many were just tossed. The break down of part number and associated VIN range seemed to make more sense to me.
TMS sold kits for almost everything but Land Cruisers. The US kit part numbers all began with 00883- and the back half of the number indicated fitment. IE 00883-35920 was for a 92 22RE pickup.
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Is that not the correct "whole kit" number that I posted in #849?
Can't say. Those numbers were never live in this part of the world.
A pic of the page of the 1977 Toyota Air Conditioner parts book. No brackets or the curved shroud things shown.
And where did you find the NOS condensor?
And where did you find the NOS condensor?