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I really no idea what your mechanics print out is showing. Not something I use.Some great Ideas there! Thanks for the reply, I didn't realise no notifications were on.
Yes mine is VVTi (I think all 200 2uz's are in Australia)
Here's a printout of fuel trims and compression test.
What do you use to be able to log graphs of these readings for the obd2 and phone app? I think that would be better than the scangauge 3. I think I bought the wrong tool. Its better than nothing, but I need logs like you say.
For the injectors, a good thorough mechanic who I trust took them out I think and ran them through some process that tests their pressure. I don't remember the details but he was confident it was not them.
I also looked at o2 sensors while idling (annoyingly scangauge doesn't fit enough meters on that I'm happy with it), but at idle they show a higher percentage on B2S2%. Would that be understandable if LTFT B2 is already higher? or should we not see assymetry there since the fuel trims should be doing their job.
I've got a little vid here of o2 assymtery. Will try and record more to share what you suggest. Theory: Could this potentially indicate an exhaust leak since I would expect if fuel trim is high on bank2, o2 should also NOT be higher, I would expect less oxygen if more fuel is getting thrown in. but if there was an exhaust leak then the ECU perhaps would never be able to keep up with o2 coming in from the ambient environment, it would just say, "I'm lean no matter what you do and I'm gonna chuck in more fuel via STFT and LTFT".
Since there IS assymetry, is it possible we can rule out the fuel pump? I would expect it to behave symmetrically if it was but I am not sure.
I will also try to swap the sensors soon.
Very new to all this but keen to dig in deep and I studied electronics and am a programmer. Not experienced with engines at all.
Video of the o2 assymetry between banks on youtube
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So a 4.7l VVTi with the air box and heater tees of the 200 series 3UZ. And RHD. Cool.
Your compression numbers indicate a fail test based on Toyota spec. You've one or two cylinders below minimum and greater than 14PSI differential.Thanks for your through responses @2001LC
As far as I can tell my 2007 200 series 2uz vvti should have SAI - 2UZ-FE Toyota engine – Australian Car.Reviews - https://www.australiancar.reviews/2uz-fe-toyota-engine/?
I've also attached a test I found for cylinders with numbers and PSI. What would this indicate to where I focus on? My mechanic checked spark plugs and coils.
At the time, spark plugs were loose but they were fixed. LTFT issues remained also I saw some improvement in economy, its still awful though. 23-26 L /100km (weight around 3.6T)
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SAI has no effect on fuel pressure.@2001LC , for the engine with the clogged filter, did you notice any other symptoms, like lower-than-spec fuel pressure? I'm still running in the +5-10% range but attribute that to my engine mods which include a tune and our crappy 10% ethanol fuel here. I have about 41-42 psi on the fuel rail.
The engine still runs good with tons of power so I haven't worried about fuel trims in some time. Just interesting to see this thread get ressurected!
FYI, I did have to replace my MAF connector again last year. I'd be driving and then STFTs would start going bonkers. I'd watch the MAF reading at idle and see it was ready super-low. Fiddling with it helped the problem - so I re-did the connector with extra-care on the splicing. No issues since.
Another guy on the GX470 forum had the same issue. Seems like the MAF connectors on the 2UZ are kind of fragile.
My apologies, I meant the clogged fuel filter, rather than the SAIS filter.SAI has no effect on fuel pressure.
Damage, due to lack of filter air form SAI. Can cause compression issues. Which compression, can affect fuel trim reads.
MAF are super sensitive instruments. I R&R (remove & replace) more as are fleet ages, as a PM. I only use OEM MAF sensors, when replacing. I always disc onnet battery first.
I’ve been digging in deep into your posts and the SAIS in general as much as I can without removing the air intake.
I think if the SAIP is currently connected to the filter and snorkel (I dont actually know that though) I dont want to mess with that topology because I need a snorkel for water crossings. I’m willing to stick with the stock setup and replace it as often as might be necessary if I know the symptoms to monitor for to pre-empt it.
I ordered a bluedriver. I’ve a got a few more questions I've been wondering about as I've been learning:
I also once or twice observed a poor start where the engine turned for about 3 seconds and stopped. could a bad SAIS valve cause that? This could explain possible unmetered air on the intake, and its also from a source where a propane test wouldn’t show up any thing because its from within the closed system. This would affect the MAF readings. It could also explain why o2 in the exhaust could be higher if theres a difference in proximity?
- Is the SAIS supposed to normally take its air from the airbox and snorkel? It’s not sclear what its input is connected to.
- Will that air filter mod affect my ability to do water crossings? Already running a snorkel and it has done a few.
- Can the SAIS filter and 3 valves be replaced or does the whole unit need to be done?
- I went looking over any records of DTC’s and found P0102 (MAF circuit Low) and P0113 (Intake Air temp Circuit High Input) had occured where diagnostic said these codes were current and in the history. if they have happenned multiple times, could that be caused by a bad SAIS valve? Might be unrelated though or just a bad connection.
- Would a bad valve explain why I’d see different o2 readings of each bank and cause a lean condition?
This is a vid of LTFT at highway speeds:
And these are cat temps at highway speeds (at the start)