1985 BJ70 CND refubishing and modifications

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funny you are recommending the spiral wrap. on Friday i asked Ryan what he thought of the wiring flow. he stood back and said "look a lot better with those cables covered with spiral wrap. i had not heard of the stuff before but we put a few feet on order.
i agree, covering the wires would look much cleaner and i can't see why the owner would need to uncover the large bundle. the wire size was recommended by Zena, my starter gent and on line. the connectors are all AntiOx and heat wrapped. so he should be fine for years to come.
thanks for the suggestion (and the confirmation of the suggestion)
appreciated.

today is Air bag day ... lets see if this can go smoother and easier.

Huh. The nice thing about spiral wrap, unlike ty-raps which you need to cut and then replace everytime you want to add/remove/relocate a wire you can unwrap and rewrap it, and it keeps them bundled together tight and cleanly. I find it easier if you start from the middle on long pieces of spiral wrap, as you dont have long lengths of it flailing around while your trying to wrap it.

I mentioned the turbo wrap more to protect the electronics for the stereo and welding unit more then the wiring, I guess some on the downpipe would help too. Its possible lower temps may keep it cleaner, if dirt "bakes" onto hot surfaces to some degree. Not intending to tell you how to do your stuff, just thought Id mention it though. :cheers:
 
i am considering the turbo wrap as the room under the hood is ... not the best ... for heat dispersion.
i like the idea of center out, thanks for the advice.
i have exhaust wrap sitting here for the Wabasto. i might consider it for the downpipe once i see how it looks on the other.
no offense taken, suggestions are appreciated.
 
i am considering the turbo wrap as the room under the hood is ... not the best ... for heat dispersion.
i like the idea of center out, thanks for the advice.
i have exhaust wrap sitting here for the Wabasto. i might consider it for the downpipe once i see how it looks on the other.
no offense taken, suggestions are appreciated.

Yea, I have friends that will tell me how to do my buisness all day long if given a chance, with out a tone of voice on here somethings can be taken as a suggestion or as orders, so I gave myself a disclaimer.

Anyways, like the clear shrink and printer for heat shrink, once you first start using them they seem really cool and you want to use it on everything when you see how good it makes stuff look, same goes for spiral wrap and sticky backs, though sticky backs arent really the best for automotive use.
 
sticky backs?

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ah, sticky backs ... i have been using the 3rd one for a while now with good results. :meh:
maybe i am just lucky.
i have also found there are usually the cheap versions and the industrial application. the industrial seems to be mounted with better adhesive.
 
ah, sticky backs ... i have been using the 3rd one for a while now with good results. :meh:
maybe i am just lucky.
i have also found there are usually the cheap versions and the industrial application. the industrial seems to be mounted with better adhesive.

Yeah, some of them don't stick to well, in some of the larger PLC panels we would screw them to the back pan if they didn't like the galvanizing or powder coating. Some of them the adhesive just gives up in cold weather.
 
Cody, you had me worried a bit about the sticky back on the roof rack so i stuck one to a piece of metal and stuffed it into the freezer for a couple days.
rock solid
now i will do a couple cycle tests to see if the glue lets go.

isn't supposed to but lets find out.
 
stickybackexperience

Cody, you had me worried a bit about the sticky back on the roof rack so i stuck one to a piece of metal and stuffed it into the freezer for a couple days.
rock solid
now i will do a couple cycle tests to see if the glue lets go.

isn't supposed to but lets find out.

From experience, sticky backs do not stick on in the cold; we heat the surface before sticking them on. I am also refering to painted surfaces, not bare metal, although i woudn't trust them to stick on any cold surface.
If you don't mind an opinion, i would not use sticky backs in an application that is not indoors, or one that exposes them to the elements.
 
well the metal is back up to room temp and no relaxing of the tape.
time for the freezer again ...
 
well the metal is back up to room temp and no relaxing of the tape.
time for the freezer again ...

Sometimes guys would use a heat gun to warm up the adhesive on them so they would stick better, but half of the time we installed them was outdoors, and so half of that time was cold out.

Having said that, I think I had a couple on the firewall on my 60 and I think 3/4 of them held, it may have something to do with the heat in the engine compartment.

They may be fine, I guess you'll find out, they're cheap and quick to replace though.

One more thing. Sticky backs and ty-raps that are black plastic are UV rated (outdoors wont get brittle unless its really cold) and the white ones are not (made to be installed in panels without exposure to light or elements)

Im not sure if its that way for all brands of them, but for the ones we used it was. :meh:
 
i am going to cycle this a few more times.
this time when i pulled it from the freezer i try flexing the adhesive. the mount moves through the adhesive but the tape is stuck well on both sides.
i wonder if the quality of the stuff makes a difference?
and
it makes sense that if you are applying to cold surface the glue would not adhere as well.
everything was applied at 68F (shop temp).
i will try one on a piece of PC aluminum to see if there is a different reaction.
i can also apply a small retaining screw in the middle should i still be concerned.
 
How thick is that winch mounting plate that's back a few pages? I'm look at having one built that is similar. What a great build. Thanks for taking the time.

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the metal is 1/4" plate
think same thickness as the frame material for reference.
and post up a pic of yours when completed.
cheers
 
that is killer
We use these for fastening cables. They can take up to four large bundles of cable/hose etc.

They just spin ( or hammer) onto any exposed stud of similar size.

Panduit TMSTLHS6-M0

 
now, you regulars that enjoy my builds, before you ask "where did all the girlie pics go?"
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now, you regulars that enjoy my builds, before you ask "where did all the girlie pics go?"
https://forum.ih8mud.com/ih8mud-help-corner/253317-ih8mud-user-guide.html
35% RULE! (Yes, this warrants it's own link!) Simply put, kids frequent the site and adults may have their young children on their lap. Avatars must be FAMILY SAFE, pics in your profile must also be FAMILY SAFE, pics in the Tech sections musts be FAMILY SAFE and all photos posted in Chat or sChat must follow the 35% rule. Not sure what it is? Search a bit, or push the limits....if you get banned, then you'll know the line! (And yes...I set the line, may move it on a whim, and it's based on what I would allow my 5-year-old niece to see...try me...there isn't much tolerance on this one...)

in other words ... post safe.

dirty old man you are wayne! :ban:
 
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