Yes, that’s the only thing I’m unsure about as well- in my 2003, the security light/temp/time strip is a separate unit sandwiched between the nav and cassette. What part of that assembly must stay integrated with the vehicle???- or can it be bypassed, or simply hidden behind the fascia somewhere? If I can find the right double DIN unit with a clean fascia that just installs above the strip, replacing the nav screen, that would work for me.
100 Series NAV Delete – True Standalone HVAC Solution (OEM+)
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The exterior temp display/security light display isn't strictly necessary (although, the status of the security light would be nice to know if one were to run into immobilizer issues down the road...). The Teyes head units also remove this strip. It's not necessary for any vehicle functions.
That being said, I plan to investigate what it'd look like for me to design & 3D print a double-din faceplate that'd sit right above the strip. I haven't checked space available yet, but I'd think it would be doable.
I think Anarchy & crew are doing a great job focusing on the hard part here - once the HVAC controls get sorted, it's all downhill from there. Any reasonably-sized engineering effort always has a lot of unknowns during a lot of the process, and running a project successfully is all about figuring those unknowns out in the correct, timely order.
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Thannks for the heads up on the Teyes - perhaps it's best if I wait for the Anarchy HVAC system and go with a dual-DIN floating screen from a reputable audio manufacturer - I just like the bezel integration with the Teyes - anyway, semi-offtopic but head-units are probably something folks in this thread will be thinking about now that the HVAC controls will no longer be a concern.Yes, it's T'eyes CC3 2k.
I can't speak on how it affects the OEM stuff. My previous owner had added some nice aftermarket speakers and an amp. It was kind of a Frankenstein situation. I added the T'eyes and removed all the leftover OEM parts. It sounds great now.
The T'eyes is barely passable, the HVAC on the screen is a giant pain in the ass. When Anarchy finishes this and the T'eyes no longer has to handle HVAC, I will give it a C+.
I will be looking for a double din solution from a name brand in the near future.
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Will the Teyes "A" or "B" model work with this freedom to the HVAC system?
Toyota Land Cruiser LC 100 For Lexus LX470 J100 2 II (2002-2007)
SPECIFICATIONS Brand Name: T'EYES Certification: CE,EAC Digital Media Format: Mp3,MP4,WMA,JPEG Din: One Din Display Size: OPTION A 9" Display Size: OPTION B & C 10.2" For Vehicle Brands/Model: TOYOTA Hign-concerned Chemical: None OSD Language: Chinese (Simplified),Chinese...
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Toyota Land Cruiser LC 100 For Lexus LX470 J100 2 II (2002-2007)
SPECIFICATIONS Brand Name: T'EYES Certification: CE,EAC Digital Media Format: Mp3,MP4,WMA,JPEG Din: One Din Display Size: OPTION A 9" Display Size: OPTION B & C 10.2" For Vehicle Brands/Model: TOYOTA Hign-concerned Chemical: None OSD Language: Chinese (Simplified),Chinese...
www.teyes.com.au
With the HVAC controls in their own hardware module, you no longer need the Teyes, but yes, it will still function as a usable head unit. There will likely be canbus connections you don't need to connect since HVAC control is being handled elsewhere. And frankly, you may not be able to anyway with Anarchy's solution in place.Will the Teyes "A" or "B" model work with this freedom to the HVAC system?
Toyota Land Cruiser LC 100 For Lexus LX470 J100 2 II (2002-2007)
SPECIFICATIONS Brand Name: T'EYES Certification: CE,EAC Digital Media Format: Mp3,MP4,WMA,JPEG Din: One Din Display Size: OPTION A 9" Display Size: OPTION B & C 10.2" For Vehicle Brands/Model: TOYOTA Hign-concerned Chemical: None OSD Language: Chinese (Simplified),Chinese...
Toyota Land Cruiser LC 100 For Lexus LX470 J100 2 II (2002-2007)
SPECIFICATIONS Brand Name: T'EYES Certification: CE,EAC Digital Media Format: Mp3,MP4,WMA,JPEG Din: One Din Display Size: OPTION A 9" Display Size: OPTION B & C 10.2" For Vehicle Brands/Model: TOYOTA Hign-concerned Chemical: None OSD Language: Chinese (Simplified),Chinese...
From what I have read from the testimony of current owners of the units, the Teyes units do not have a good stereo preamp so aren't a great solution if audio quality is a concern. With that said, I do think they look the best integrated into the dash with the Teyes bezel and I believe based on the marketing material that Teyes significantly improved the audio circuitry in the CC4 Pro, though it remains to be seen if its just marketing BS, so I'm watching keenly for reviews of the CC4 Pro before making a move in either direction.
Again, this is somewhat off-topic and perhaps headunit discussion should be moved to its own thread, but those purchasing Anarchy's HVAC hardware solution will need to purchase new headunits as part of their upgrade, so the discussion is surely relevant to some.
Do you know the differences between Teyes Model A, B and C? Are you sure Teyes provides HVAC control connections for Model A & B? I believe you answered my question based on Model C.
You may call this off topic but it is relevant. Prior to purchase, I would like to understand if aftermarket head unit installation (with aftermarket harness) is plug and play with this HVAC hardware in place. The purpose of this new hardware is to make modern head unit installation easy, please correct me if I am wrong.
This is a great idea. Not sure if there is room, or sufficient power to make it easy to harness in, but the idea is super cool if nothing else.
Look at the first post.
I'm pretty stoked that this is happening. Thanks, Anarchy for the effort! I'm sure it will pay off, as so many of us want a good, easy solution.
I was an early adopter of the Teyes unit and maybe the first guy to find out that the stock amp on the 06 LC caused problems. I've subsequently installed a different branded android unit, replaced the stock amp and it's all working fine. I think that, with this Anarchy solution, the amp on the 06 may still prove to be a problem with other aftermarket head units. Obviously, fixable, but, just something to be aware of.
I was an early adopter of the Teyes unit and maybe the first guy to find out that the stock amp on the 06 LC caused problems. I've subsequently installed a different branded android unit, replaced the stock amp and it's all working fine. I think that, with this Anarchy solution, the amp on the 06 may still prove to be a problem with other aftermarket head units. Obviously, fixable, but, just something to be aware of.
I don't know the differences among the three versions of the Teyes headunit - I only care about the one that works for my (our) vehicles which is version C. The thing is, it looks the best in the 2003-07 LX dashboard, but it's not the best performing head unit based on reviews. And if sound quality means anything to you, this isn't the unit for you (unless the CC4 Pro has addressed the SQ concerns). The primary desirability of the Teyes for me was in its HVAC control capabilities which appear to be lackluster based on the many reviews I've read of it. Now that an hardware control module is being developed, it opens our options to much better, well-designed, and higher performance head units.
I agree that the topic of aftermarket head units is relevant as it relates to the near-term availability of Anarchy's independent HVAC control module, but probably not in this thread which is mainly focused on the HVAC module design, development progress, and ultimately production, pricing, and delivery info as that emerges.
It looks like it goes in some OEM dash, but not necessarily a 100's. I'm not sure how exactly OEM-like you're trying to get it, It's clean enough I wouldn't hesitate to put one in my car, but if I had seen this without any context I wouldn't think it is some OEM option we never got in the states. The buttons in the 100 tend to have a softer look. Rectangular shape, filleted edges on the face, almost convex, and larger radius fillets on the corners, The buttons immediately below this, the heated seat controls, and the various buttons to the left of the wheel are all along these lines. And of course they would match better if they were the same silver as the rest of the dash (though I admit, the more contrasting white on gray/black would be easier to read).
For the buttons themselves, the current placement looks slightly off. I'd either move the buttons to be a single horizontal row under the screen, or center the screen vertically. Not sure which I'd prefer, but right now the bottom has more empty space and it doesn't feel quite right. If you have the freedom to, maybe go with the single horizontal row, make the button rectangular, and move the LED light to the side kinda like the other OEM buttons. I'm not sure if the actual text/symbols are intended to look how they are, but I'd make the AC and MODE text the same height as the rear AC button below. For the defrost, I'd ditch the text (OEM doesn't have it anyways) and make the symbol larger.
Overall, I like the layout. Temp and fan are quick and easy to adjust, exactly what I miss from my early 100. The rest is simple and intuitive (other than maybe any hold functions, but something like being able to switch between °C/F is just a nice bonus). You may have already answered this elsewhere, my memory sucks, but is the display still going to display the diagnostic codes?
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The original goal was to have a prototype ready for GSMTR ’26 - that is looking unlikely at this point but we are getting closer to the first one that will actually go into my vehicle.
These are just random progress shots while the prototype package is being finalized. The next stage is PCB fabrication, assembly, bench testing, then vehicle testing. Realistically, I am thinking in terms of weeks.
These are just random progress shots while the prototype package is being finalized. The next stage is PCB fabrication, assembly, bench testing, then vehicle testing. Realistically, I am thinking in terms of weeks.
It looks great- elegant, simple, intuitive controls. So in this rendering, the "security strip" which houses the security LED/outside and inside temp/Time is deleted. I'm guessing that disconnecting the security LED doesn't effect the system in any way- I'd like to see it on the dash, should be easy to drill a hole and install the LED wherever makes sense, ya?
Thanks for hijacking my question with the system you care about. It would be nice if you knew the differences before responding.
Are the options confirmed or are you speculating? This is the reason why I asked about models A & B?
Good luck to the V1 owners. I hope you find something that is compatible with the new hardware.
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The beauty of these new standalone HVAC controls is that it'll free up the space that was originally taken up by the factory nav screen and move the AC controls to where the current radio controls are. So we'll lose the factory radio, but be able to put in any Android Auto/CarPlay unit (or really any radio that fits in the dash and can be wired up), which will likely include the Teyes system without HVAC controls.
Someone chime in if that's not the current direction but the concept seems straightforward to me. The execution of that concept is probably more difficult than I could comprehend, but that's why I'm not doing it!
Someone chime in if that's not the current direction but the concept seems straightforward to me. The execution of that concept is probably more difficult than I could comprehend, but that's why I'm not doing it!
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Will you be at GSMTR? Would love to meet ya!
(that goes for any one in this thread BTW). Just look for the guy with the best/biggest beard there (probably) and that's me.
To my understanding, that's exactly it. Will there be things to figure out? Absolutely. Can those they be figured out? Again, absolutely.
It's not rocket science here - offloading the HVAC controls from the head unit is the hard part, and @Anarchy and his team are tackling that. There's a wide range of expertise across the internet about retrofitting new head units into vehicles - once the HVAC controls become standalone with this development, then all that knowledge and information suddenly become applicable to the 100 Series.
I was swapping the Teyes unit from my old/parts 100 to my new one today, and it seems like the factory tape deck is still involved in getting sound, even if only controlling the amp and volume. Just flagging that it seems like losing the factory tape deck will mean a bit more figuring out and some rewiring may be needed.