ARCHIVE 100 Series Coil Over Conversion Kit (34 Viewers)

[Biga27110]

Hey everyone. Hopefully I can answer a few of your questions about this kit. First off, be be clear, I'm not affiliated with KOR at all, I gave him real money in exchange for these parts....If i thought this kit sucked you'd hear me saying so. It does not!
I told him I try and get some photos and measurements and show it off to anyone who was interested. I'm working on putting together a install/review thread that hopefully will answer more questions and I'll post up photos there.




I can't agree with this statement at all. When I bought my kit, Chris at KOR had already sold 4 or 5 kits. As of this week, he has sold out of the remaining 4-5 kits he had sitting on his shelf. That is in no way falling short on marketing. Not everyone is an Instagram whore or has the time to keep up on the forums. He is starting to fab a new batch this coming week. I know at least on person who just bought a kit after seeing mine at HIH.
I think whats happing is it's simply the people who bought these kits are out there using them rather than spending time online talking about it.....thats what i should be doing right now, haha.






Simply not a concern at all. Like DirtDawg said, the arms are fully welded and sealed.....even the shock mount could only hold a tiny about of water.
No one has 'talked him out of it', he is fabing new kits the week.



Gungriffin hit the nail on the head. Chris at one point had a large shop with a number of employees and decide it wasn't worth the added time and stress. He is as busy as he wants to be right now and is selling out of these kits with 0 marking.....that says a lot right there. He is back to a one man shop and focuses an quality parts. I do a lot a fab work and was very impressed with his shop and the work he is putting out.
On top of that, I imagine he makes a lot more money selling Chevy and side x side parts.
Like Gungriffin said, Im very honest with what I think about the kit. You guys have to understand that for every 50 'very interested' 100series owners, he probably only sells one. It simply takes too much time to respond to every single criticism or question that pops up from people that will realistically never consider spending the money to buy a kit............Rant over


I'll do my best to get a new thread started very soon.
Cheers

link to thread when you start it please

 

[LandCruiserPhil]

I like I said if you had read my post.......I’m working on putting together a thread and providing you measurements......

I’m a happy customer who would rather go play, spend time with my family and work on my projects than sit at the computer making a thread but I’m willing to do it to help provide the info.

In no way am I asking you to take time away from your family, play time, or projects. If would be nice if the business would step up and provide product information even if they dont not care or need to sell any product.

 

[EarthX]

Pretty sure you called me out in that last post.
Regardless, I’m working on it.

 

[Biga27110]

Pretty sure you called me out in that last post.
Regardless, I’m working on it.

work faster im not getting up from computer until you post it

 

[LandCruiserPhil]

Pretty sure you called me out in that last post.
Regardless, I’m working on it.

Nope bad assumption on your part

 

[Somebodyelse5]

Drain holes where? They are a fully welded arm, so they are fully sealed. The only place I could see water pooling is in the shock mount.

Yes to an extent. Anyone who has tried to fully weld something shut or “sealed” knows that it is not an easy task. Something about molten metal and hot gasses makes trapped air expand...

In no way am I asking you to take time away from your family, play time, or projects. If would be nice if the business would step up and provide product information even if they dont not care or need to sell any product.

If someone magically pulled extra travel out of a 100, they’d be stupid NOT to go nuts and share the numbers... I still don’t understand where any travel gain will come from... It doesn’t add up.

I’ll say it again...unless the arms and axles are extended, there is no more travel to be had.

 

[EarthX]

Is anyone or current owner ever going to post travel gain claims of this set up?

Who’s is the ‘current owner’ in this post?
Also, do you have any interest in purchasing this kit? You’re a vendor on here right?

 

[EarthX]

they’d be stupid NOT to go nuts and share the numbers

Maybe too soon to start with the name calling?

 

[Somebodyelse5]

Maybe too soon to start with the name calling?

Stupid is not a name, it’s an adjective.
Definition: having or showing a great lack of intelligence or common sense.

Making a $5.6k kit, claiming more travel and not providing any numerical data to suport the claim... I’d say that lacks common sense. Marketing a kit towards a crowd that desperately wants more travel and more lift, providing zero numbers to suport the claims, that just seems way too shady.

You know what the first thing anyone wanted to know about this kit? Travel.

You know what every other company in the suspension game gives you with their kits? Travel.

You know what every CAD suite can do with a modelled design? Kinematics. Which would give you TRAVEL.

Why KOR can’t provide travel values is the problem. I don’t want to ready how great YOU think it is, I want travel numbers. The claims you’ve made about how great the ride is are the same things guys with the icon kits say...the common factor is a properly tuned shock....

 

[gungriffin]

Stupid is not a name, it’s an adjective.
Definition: having or showing a great lack of intelligence or common sense.

Making a $5.6k kit, claiming more travel and not providing any numerical data to suport the claim... I’d say that lacks common sense. Marketing a kit towards a crowd that desperately wants more travel and more lift, providing zero numbers to suport the claims, that just seems way too shady.

You know what the first thing anyone wanted to know about this kit? Travel.

You know what every other company in the suspension game gives you with their kits? Travel.

You know what every CAD suite can do with a modelled design? Kinematics. Which would give you TRAVEL.

Why KOR can’t provide travel values is the problem. I don’t want to ready how great YOU think it is, I want travel numbers. The claims you’ve made about how great the ride is are the same things guys with the icon kits say...the common factor is a properly tuned shock....

You seem like one pissed dude. What for? Just don't buy the kit. It is all good. No one is looking for the internet police. You can put your printed badge away. EarthX also said he would post, but that he needed time to do so. That seems like a fair request, no?

 

[EarthX]

I get it........but email him if your interested. You clearly like to write about it. Call him, email him, go see him at his shop. It would be a lot easier than getting all worked up about it.

He will respond very quickly to email. You can only keep asking the same question so many times on here.

The fact is, he has sold out of every kit he has made.
One thing you need to remember is that there are people outside of this little forum who own landcruisers and use them.

 

[Somebodyelse5]

I get it........but email him if your interested. You clearly like to write about it. Call him, email him, go see him at his shop. It would be a lot easier than getting all worked up about it.

He will respond very quickly to email. You can only keep asking the same question so many times on here.

The fact is, he has sold out of every kit he has made.
One thing you need to remember is that there are people outside of this little forum who own landcruisers and use them.

You know what would settle all of this? Go outside with a tape measure and a jack and measure from the center of the hub to the top of the fender and take a picture.

My issue is that no one will do that ^ without that, the claims are baseless and it seems like an attempt to take advantage of the 100 series crowd. This is a tech section of the forum, to discuss tech, and no one seems to be answering the tech questions about this kit...

 

[LandCruiserPhil]

Who’s is the ‘current owner’ in this post?
Also, do you have any interest in purchasing this kit? You’re a vendor on here right?

You are 100% right you are not the vendor just a consumer and should not be bothered, sorry.
I will take the correct approach as others should do and reach out to KOR for product information.

Killer Off Road Fabrication
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[bgolf247]

Wow people seem really worked up over something you can choose not to buy. If you do want to buy, then think about how you present yourself and if others are going to want to do very niche work for you.

 

[Dzrtcrzr]

 

[LuisJr]

I'm interested in the kit when it's financially feasible. Chris was excellent to deal with when I purchased his Diff drop kit a few months back. His is now a one man show and had tons of fab work in process when I stopped by, including building a SAS kit for a E series van. Very informative and even showed me the coilover kit. I look forward to more owners jumping into and sharing their experiences with the kit.

The biggest thing I can say is that I hope this gains traction and helps push other fabricators to designs kits with extended arms, etc. It'd be nice to see more competition in front suspension innovation.

Luis

 

[Biga27110]

Stupid is not a name, it’s an adjective.
Definition: having or showing a great lack of intelligence or common sense.

Making a $5.6k kit, claiming more travel and not providing any numerical data to suport the claim... I’d say that lacks common sense. Marketing a kit towards a crowd that desperately wants more travel and more lift, providing zero numbers to suport the claims, that just seems way too shady.

You know what the first thing anyone wanted to know about this kit? Travel.

You know what every other company in the suspension game gives you with their kits? Travel.

You know what every CAD suite can do with a modelled design? Kinematics. Which would give you TRAVEL.

Why KOR can’t provide travel values is the problem. I don’t want to ready how great YOU think it is, I want travel numbers. The claims you’ve made about how great the ride is are the same things guys with the icon kits say...the common factor is a properly tuned shock....

You are not entitled to anything. If you want to so desperately have product information just call him. Instead you claim the lack of information means its a shady business. You compare the rest of the world to KOR as if thats supposed to mean something other than you passing along your assumptions about how you believe a company or person should be.

The projection of your ego is so strong you dont even realize everything you said relies on the fact that KOR cares about you or your questions. Guess what they dont and thats why you are so triggered your ego cant handle it.

 

[od4x4]

So.... I don’t want to piss in anyone’s Wheaties here BUT...

We utilized the differential relocation bracket that we manufacture and in doing so were able to gain 1" more droop travel, and 1.75" more compression travel. The coil over shock will allow for external dampening adjustment, and this kit has an option for a 2.0 hydraulic bump stop.
The kit is adjustable in height, but I have found that 1" over stock height seems to ride and handle the best. We will have a pricing break down posted in the next few days once we finalize cost of manufacturing. I will do my best to keep everyone up to date, but we are a small shop, and very busy at that.
Thank you for the interest and support.
Chris-

KOR has put some numbers out there. Now sure they may not be real world numbers... I would have no idea since I don’t work for the company or own their kit. It does not appear to me that they ever claimed this as a long travel kit so these numbers are probably in line with just about every other suspension kit out there. If you have $5000 and want the to get rid of TB and possibly have a cushy ride on the whoops then I say more power to you! Any new product is a good product because it keeps the interest moving forward.

If some of you are going to contact them, can you confirm these numbers? At least that way we can all go back to being one big happy family!

 

[Somebodyelse5]

I emailed KOR. They are unable to provide full droop measurements because they do not have any kits installed right now, but they did confirm that the LCA's do not extend track width and that their differential drop bracket drops the diff 1". This is the same amount of drop that the Slee diff drop bracket provides.

It doesn't look like the kit provides any additional travel over other market offerings (tough dog, OME, Icon, etc) and maybe that was my mistake in assuming so, it doesn't look like KOR themselves ever made that claim.

So, additional travel over stock? Yes. Additional travel over a 2.5" lift from someone else? No. And it seems that this was never the claim they made anyways. If you hate Tbars and have money, this seems like a good option.

 

[lt1fire]

i'm thinking if they extended the arms out and we used 200 CV's they could make a long(er) travel kit. Or will a 200 CV not work in our hubs?