Was there any fj40s ever sold without doors?

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I know there is a part for older 40 series, basicly a chain across the door opening when the doors are not in place, but was there ever any 40 series (in North American) ever sold with out the doors?

Sold new from a dealership to be specific.
 
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soft doors
 
Yes.... Topless
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are you running into the problem of cops hassling you for running without doors?
every few years this keeps coming back to the fore ...

i pulled the doors off the 70 ragtop this summer, just waiting for that first dick cop to pull me over for it.
 
crushers said:
are you running into the problem of cops hassling you for running without doors?
every few years this keeps coming back to the fore ...

i pulled the doors off the 70 ragtop this summer, just waiting for that first dick cop to pull me over for it.
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I think that is a Commonwealth thing. I had that a lot in Australia and once in BC but never once in any US state-I've been through most of the lower 48 sans top and doors.
 
I was more curious, as our laws here in BC state that ONLY a Jeep CJ made prior to '86 can legally operate with no doors.

http://www.bclaws.ca/EPLibraries/bc...58 Motor Vehicle Act Regulations/26_58_04.xml

"Door, body, hood

11 The vehicle shall comply with section 19.02 of the regulations with regard to size and dimension.

Doors — Doors shall be installed in a vehicle where the vehicle was manufactured with doors.

The doors with which a vehicle is equipped shall be in good working order, and any hinge, latch or handle must not be broken, missing or inoperable.

The doors shall not be warped, twisted or weakened to the extent that a slight jar will open them.

A door shall be capable of being opened or closed with normal effort."

My 40 hasn't been driven in some time, but I might be inclined one day to attempt to get this law legally amended to include Land Cruisers of the appropriate vintage.
 
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You'd want to check the case law on that section to see how courts have interpreted that verbiage. It may well be that it has been settled previously as including cruisers.
 
Canlii does not list anything in a short case law search, but that is far from conclusive.

The good news though is that if you're a Sikh or have a note from your doctor, you don't have to wear a bicycle helmet on your peddle bike to toodle around the neighbourhood on a sunny Saturday.

What is it with commonwealth countries and silly laws? Don't the MPs have anything better to do with their time in Parliament?
 
Enigma said:
I was more curious, as our laws here in BC state that ONLY a Jeep CJ made prior to '86 can legally operate with no doors.

http://www.bclaws.ca/EPLibraries/bc...58 Motor Vehicle Act Regulations/26_58_04.xml

"Door, body, hood

11 The vehicle shall comply with section 19.02 of the regulations with regard to size and dimension.

Doors — Doors shall be installed in a vehicle where the vehicle was manufactured with doors.

The doors with which a vehicle is equipped shall be in good working order, and any hinge, latch or handle must not be broken, missing or inoperable.

The doors shall not be warped, twisted or weakened to the extent that a slight jar will open them.

A door shall be capable of being opened or closed with normal effort."

My 40 hasn't been driven in some time, but I might be inclined one day to attempt to get this law legally amended to include Land Cruisers of the appropriate vintage.
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I missed this thread.

I started a thread that got moved to Chat, about 40 series advertisements. I'm going to now admit my purpose for that thread. I am looking for technical sales data to use as a challenge to the current law in BC pertaining to operating Land Cruiser 40 Series without doors and/or roof.
My understanding that the reason the pre-86 jeep CJ models are able to operate is that they were advertised and sold as being able to operate without doors and/or roof.
So I am glad I found this. My intention is to gather as much information as I can, then find legal assistance for process to present an argument, and create a statement for legal bill to be read in the BC legislature.
I've not done anything like this, I have no legal experience, - but I have time, which is cheap, and a desire to drive my FJ40 without doors.
If anyone has ideas or useful input let me know. J
 
Here in western washington everyone and their mother has a jeep, during the summer there are tons of people driving without doors.

If I got pulled over I would show the cop the law stating about the Jeeps, and as much as that law should be unspecified, he'll probably let you go
 
Enigma said:
I was more curious, as our laws here in BC state that ONLY a Jeep CJ made prior to '86 can legally operate with no doors.
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i don't see anything regarding jeep in there? :confused: wherever you are find the Jeep reference, is jeep capitalized? if not, then it's not the brand name and the word jeep was used to refer to off road vehicles. only if it's capitalized does it represent a brand name. :meh:
 
RattleCan said:
Here in western washington everyone and their mother has a jeep, during the summer there are tons of people driving without doors.

If I got pulled over I would show the cop the law stating about the Jeeps, and as much as that law should be unspecified, he'll probably let you go
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Yeah, well here in BC cops don't give warnings, they are bound to generate money, therefore you WILL get a fine. Most weren't born when I got my licence, but it's not the same here anymore....sadly, there is no more roadside discussion.
 
nuclearlemon said:
i don't see anything regarding jeep in there? :confused: wherever you are find the Jeep reference, is jeep capitalized? if not, then it's not the brand name and the word jeep was used to refer to off road vehicles. only if it's capitalized does it represent a brand name. :meh:
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The entire statement of legislation isn't in his quote. You could look it up if you like.
 
cruiserpilot said:
The entire statement of legislation isn't in his quote. You could look it up if you like.
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i clicked on his link and it lists the wording he posted, which also doesn't include the word jeep and nothing comes up when i search "automotive car doors required in canada" that references jeeps . maybe it's a canadian google thing :flipoff2:
 
Chamba said:
The good news though is that if you're a Sikh or have a note from your doctor, you don't have to wear a bicycle helmet on your peddle bike to toodle around the neighbourhood on a sunny Saturday.
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I'd rather wear a bicycle helmet than a tea towel anyway. :)


Chamba said:
What is it with commonwealth countries and silly laws? Don't the MPs have anything better to do with their time in Parliament?
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An occupational hazard of all politicians of any stripe or color; they have (or eventually come to get) an irresistible urge to meddle in the affairs of other more productive people, and tell them what they must do.
 
Seems silly that II can ride a motorcycle with a beanie cap and not worry about being hastled... But in a 40 with three point seatbelts and a six point cage, I can be ticketed... But not with vinyl half doors. :D

I've never been hastled... And prefer half to no doors... But that's not the point.
 
well, maybe they are trying to eliminate bikers by natural selection?

i could never understand how bikers rated different from being wrapped in steel and plastic but they are. maybe the law makers like to ride their bikes?
 
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