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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: PRK
Posts: 10,191
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How to connect a trailer brake controller to a (late?) 100 series TLC
Here is a brief rundown on how to find and use the connector for a trailer brake controller on the 100 with tow package.
(The following is for an '03, but likely to be the same or similar for later years. It is likely that the connector may not yet have been put in on earlier years. Check your EWD. My guess is that the connector is present when the tow package includes a 7 pin trailer socket in the back, and probably not when the tow package includes only the 4 pin socket. Having seen what a believed to be an 02 EWD that did not show the brake controller connector, I believe the connector may have been introduced in 03.) This connector is well hidden under the dash and not readily visible. It is not obvious at all how to get to it. So thanks to Dickballard who posted some instructions on Edmunds.com that proved most helpful. The connector is intended to provide you with all the wiring needed for a brake controller. If you use it, there is no need for any splicing, wire cutting and wire laying. It's great! There are 2 possible ways to get to it. A sure thing but longer, and a possible quick fix that may or may not work for you. Location: The connector is located on a harness right behind the metal knee brace under the lower plastic panel, about a foot above the accelerator pedal towards the driver. This white connector (5 wires) is branching off a harness and located between the lower transverse plastic vent conduit and the metal knee brace, or perhaps above the conduit. I don't believe it is visible from under the dash without removal of parts. Quick method (without removing the lower plastic panel at the bottom of the dash) [Note I have not actually tried this so I'm guessing here based on what I saw when I took the whole thing apart]: if you go on your back and look up under the dash, you will see a long (about 1 ft) wide (2 - 3") black plastic conduit for air ventilation that connect from the center radio "tower" to the area near the mirror controls. This is close to the bottom of the dash assembly. It is a vent carrying air. This conduit is held by a single golden screw on the bottom left side. This screw is not reachable by a screwdriver unless you remove the lower plastic panel, but can likely be unscrewed with pliers from the side otherwise. After you remove this screw, the entire conduit can be removed by gently twisting and turning it. It is held by the 2 ends simply by being inserted in similar fixed tubes. You may need to twist, bend, pull, and push. Be careful. There is a lot of stuff down there. If you are successful, and remove it this way, look right behind the metal knee brace, in line with the accelerator or so, and you may see a single white squarish connector, empty with about 1" or wiring out of a big black harness. That's it. (It's not the white connector located way up close to the top with a single black wire into it.) The wires going into the correct connector are White, Green, White/black, Green/white, and White/blue. Plug your pigtail connector (see below) in that one, let the wires hang, and put everything back together after checking for voltage etc. If this worked, you are lucky. What I did instead is take all the panels off. Start by removing the horizontal plastic bezel above the steering wheel, the one that has the light dimmer in. It comes right out by pulling on it. Then (or first, I forgot, check), remove the circular trim around the ignition key slot (careful, you must turn it and pull to remove it, there are tabs that have to be aligned with slots). It should then be possible to remove the entire lower plastic panel (in front of the driver shins and knees). To do this, remove the single black screw on the very left edge, close to the door. Then remove the 4 screws holding the 2 handles for the hood and gas door. The lower plastic panel can then be removed by pulling gently, there are 4 or 5 clips holding it, all around. There will be several switches and harnesses into it. Watch out for the skinny one on the right, those wires are small. You can disconnect all the harnesses and remove the panel. Next comes the metal knee brace. It's held by 4 or 5 bolts and comes right off. After that you will clearly see the black plastic vent I mentioned earlier and maybe even the connector, in front or above it. If you don't see the connector, remove the vent conduit as described above and the connector should be visible. Again, connect your pigtail (see below) and put it all back together after checking for voltage. Now, to take advantage of this connector you'd want to plug something in. To my surprise there is no corresponding male connector sold by Toyota for the Landcruiser. Fortunately, it appears that the Tundra/Sequoia connector fits just fine. I bought the one p/n 82132-0C010 from Toyota. (I have seen less expensive pigtails for Toyotas available from aftermarket trailer places but don't know if they will work or not.) This male connector fits in the female one under the dash and has about a foot of loose wiring dangling from it. Connect this pigtail to the connector under the dash. Before you put all the dash back together, btw, you may want to check for voltage on the various terminals of the connector based on the EWD. Test for voltage supply, ground, and a signal from the brake pedal. There is one wire (for tail lights?) that is not used for the brake controller. So now your dash is back together and you have 5 wires dangling from underneath above the accelerator (note that the colors on the pigtail are NOT the same as the wiring to the dash connector). Buy a good brake controller (I got the Tekonsha Prodigy, a late generation solid state gizmo that is supposed to be top of their line and perhaps the best out there). The prodigy came with a harness, and instructions on how to connect to the Toyota pigtail by colors. I checked with the EWD and the instructions were correct. Note the controller only uses 4 wires. I connected the wires with quick-disconnect spades crimp-ons. I used 2 different sizes and alternated male and female so there can not be any mistakes when connecting it (I am using this controller in 2 trucks and move it around.) Pay attention to the minimum gauge requirements and be sure there is an appropriate fuse in the circuits (there is one already on the 03 wiring system apparently). I mounted the controller on the lower edge of the lower plastic panel, about even with the accelerator (I checked the inclination and orientation of the controller mount and it was within specs). Check to make sure all the voltages are as should be, both at the controller and trailer socket in the back. Go get yourself a treat. You're done! HTH Eric __________________ '97: 88K, 3xlock, Custom HD roo bar for sale, 285 MT/Rs on steelies, Hanna sliders, 851+1.5"/863/N73/N74E/SD24, ARB bull with M12, Kaymar with duals, Kaymar rack, Slee TC skid, 2m/440, more stuff, loose nut behind the wheel!) '03: 99K, the better half's... DD and souped up DR650 Last edited by e9999; 07-09-04 at 06:38 PM. |
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Reno
Posts: 4,815
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Eric,
I need to add a 7-pin trailer wiring connector along with a e-brake controller to my '99. Have you been satisfied with your set-up you posted sometime ago (above)? Thanks, Dan __________________ Modded '99 for overlanding/exploring: 35's, 4.88's, AO drawers, Slee rr, TJM fr, ARB fr locker, ear candy, Waeco CF-50, PowerGate with 2nd battery, home brew sliders & t-case skid plate, 9.5XP/X-line, LF 170's, OEM 864's, Foxes x 4, 12mm BL, Carl's UCAs, ... KE7NCM |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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Quickest method was to take it to the local RV place. They charged me $50 for the install.
I would rather pay that than read all of that
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You want to do what...?
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: PRK
Posts: 10,191
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well, as discussed elsewhere, I discovered a design flaw in the OEM tow circuitry that allows trailer battery feedback into the instrument cluster... Idiots! and not willing to fix it either...! had to rig something up the day before going on a 2 weeks long trip...
__________________ '97: 88K, 3xlock, Custom HD roo bar for sale, 285 MT/Rs on steelies, Hanna sliders, 851+1.5"/863/N73/N74E/SD24, ARB bull with M12, Kaymar with duals, Kaymar rack, Slee TC skid, 2m/440, more stuff, loose nut behind the wheel!) '03: 99K, the better half's... DD and souped up DR650 |
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IH8MUD Regular
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Baltimore
Posts: 352
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My '00 LC must not have the tow package. I did not know about the under dash connector, but I found the connector near the rear muffler. It is a 4 pin female for lights only. I went to the dealer for the other end too, and they don't make that one either! The Tundra version is different too.
That was OK because I prefer to use an isolated circuit for my trailer electrics. I had a short once that locked up a van dashboard, right as I was about to pull out of my driveway. I strongly recommend hardwiring a mini fuse box to the battery and running independent circuits for the lights, brakes and 12V outlets. A heavy duty trailer wiring relay from e-trailer.com is the best way to preserve your electronics. It all fit in the left rear pillar. |
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IH8MUD Addict
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Phoenix,AZ but it's a dry heat
Posts: 1,430
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On the 04 4Runner we have the male plug for the brake controller came with the vehilce along with the head unit and pin for the reciever hitch. Maybe the 4runners got this since the reciever hitch was standard on all 4Runners. John |
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IH8MUD Rookie
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This thread saved me a ton of time. I used the "quick method" to access the connector for my '06 100 and it worked great. The gold screws holding in the vent tube actually had hex heads making it even easier. Don't get me wrong, it still was a pain in the a$$ getting that vent tube in and out but much better than pulling the lower dash.
Also note. the Techonsha Prodigy fits nocely in the ashtray slot of my 100. Thanks __________________ 1995 FZJ80 : 3" OME Lift , 4.88 Gears, Longfield Axles & Birfs, 36" Swampers, Dual Optima Batteries, ARB Bull Bar with M12000 Warn Winch and IPF Lights, IPOR Rear Bumper, IPOR Skid Plate, IPOR Rock Sliders, Snorkel, and (Bling) Rock Lights. 2006 UZJ100 : Stock -- Sooo Sweet. |
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IH8MUD Junior
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 83
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was looking at this great write up but now not sure what needs to be done...is there a flaw to the OEM system? should i just goto a rv place and have them do an install? thanks the dude |
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You want to do what...?
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: PRK
Posts: 10,191
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the flaw is that the battery in the trailer will power some stuff in the instrument cluster (and maybe lights) when the key is partially on. So I put it in a relay to stop that.
There is a TSB on something related. __________________ '97: 88K, 3xlock, Custom HD roo bar for sale, 285 MT/Rs on steelies, Hanna sliders, 851+1.5"/863/N73/N74E/SD24, ARB bull with M12, Kaymar with duals, Kaymar rack, Slee TC skid, 2m/440, more stuff, loose nut behind the wheel!) '03: 99K, the better half's... DD and souped up DR650 |
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: OZ
Posts: 1,287
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ONLY if you know for a fact they solder connections and don't use scotch loks etc. and are auto electricians. On the other hand, just because someone charges the earth doesn't mean they know what they are doing, and will do it correctly. Maybe someone on MUD is an auto electrician in your area and can personally do a proper job. A modification to the Toyota system that is flawed, may also be an option, as posted above. Good Luck!
__________________ HDJ-100R TD 2003 Best mod, triple washer nozzle squirters Thanks to HOSER |
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IH8MUD Junior
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 83
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thanks for the feedback guys...i am gonna go the OEM route with some sorta fix...i called my wrench at the dealer (good guy) and he is looking into a possible TSB etc ...so if i learn anything will post here
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IH8MUD Regular
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Folsom, CA
Posts: 424
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Definitely report back. I was considering the same thing because I have surge brakes now and HATE THEM. They heat up way to fast on descents and my bearing buddies get so hot they really pop out.
__________________ 06 LC, Toyo A/T 275/70/18, AHC "mini" lift and 1.5 inch spacers removed due to rubbing ![]() PM me if you need spacers! |
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 22
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Note to all: after reading the above description, I was able to plug in my prodigy controller using the Tundra harness without removing anything at all. Lay on your back looking up under the dash, squeeze the plastic air vent conduit and it compresses easily- you can see the white connector without even removing it, and I plugged it right in. It literally took me minutes, and with the tundra harness it is literally plug and play at both ends (you do have to ground one wire).
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IH8MUD Regular
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 276
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Which year is your LC??
__________________ 98 LC 100, 100K MILES, MANIK BULL BAR , WARN DUAL BEAM FOG LIGHTS, SLEE STEP SLIDERS, NITTO 285'S, |
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You want to do what...?
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: PRK
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(oh, and still very happy with my Prodigy...) __________________ '97: 88K, 3xlock, Custom HD roo bar for sale, 285 MT/Rs on steelies, Hanna sliders, 851+1.5"/863/N73/N74E/SD24, ARB bull with M12, Kaymar with duals, Kaymar rack, Slee TC skid, 2m/440, more stuff, loose nut behind the wheel!) '03: 99K, the better half's... DD and souped up DR650 |
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 22
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Yeah that air tube is really made from a pretty soft plastic... give 'er a squeeze and you will see what I mean. You don't need to compress it much at all to see that clip- I did use a mirror when I was first looking for it but sticking your fingers up there in the exact spot described above is enough to find the connector.
Did you mount your prodigy in the ashtray? I can't seem to get the black plastic ashtray surround out so I can drill the back to run the prodigy wiring through. I didn't want to drill blind for fear of hitting something important behind it. |
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