Winching Backwards

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I was being an idiot again, and i got stuck with no one to pull me out backwards, so i tried winching backwards with pulleys. Too see if it actually works, or is it just a story people tell when their drunk.
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This is how i rigged up my winch rope;
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I didn't want to break anything, so i took the weight with the PTO winch and then cained it in reverse, and moved back a few hundred mm's.

I did this a few times, got a lot of tension on the winch and drove backwards. I got about a meter and the strop around the fence post snapped. I thought, well its an old strop and i had chocked it around the post, which is half as strong as if i had looped it.

So i tried again with a better strop looped around the post, i got a bit further, but the new strop snapped and this time the pulley and winch hook smashed into the back of my truck and made a huge smashing noise, And ripped my winch dampener
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Winching backwards defiantly works, but sh*t its hard on gear
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Because it has to be a pulley on the back of the truck its putting twice and much strain on every thing.

Im sure you could add a few more pulleys and reduce the strain, with a cleaver block and tackle setup. But my winch rope isnt long enught for that. I eventualy got out by winching forward, added a few more dents.
 

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I’ve seen some videos where this works and others where it doesn’t. I think there is more advantage to be gained if the anchors/trees are further to the side of the vehicle instead of straight ahead/behind.

At some point with it directly in front and behind your winch is going to be pulling your truck apart unless something fails first, as you experienced.

As the BleepinJeep YouTube video shows it’s probably less harmful on equipment to just wrap the cable under the truck and connect it straight behind.
 
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I think you got out, and your recovery design was sound. So I give you full marks! Well done.
Not your fault it was a crappy strap and equipment only fails when you use it. 👍
That’s also why I have a 11500 Runva on the back of my 60.

I’d be grateful if you posted up some closer pics of that rear winch set up, especially the model and size of winch.
Also how the whole bracket holding the winch is made. I’ve got a bumper fabbed up for the rear of my BJ74.
But sure looks like I could put a winch there too! Are you 12V or 24V in that truck?
 
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45Kevin

 
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I've seen that setup work in videos, but never in person.
It shouldn't be any harder on gear than winching forward.
Where the straps you had dynamic or static?
 
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I’d be grateful if you posted up some closer pics of that rear winch set up, especially the model and size of winch.
Also how the whole bracket holding the winch is made. I’ve got a bumper fabbed up for the rear of my BJ74.
But sure looks like I could put a winch there too! Are you 12V or 24V in that truck?
The winch is from an 80 series, I have moved the solenoids from on top of the winch, and will mount them somewhere in the cab.

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I didn't want it to stick out too far and knacker the departure angle. so to tuck it in close, I cut away the rear chassis cross member, and had the winch as high as i could, so i had to trim a little bit out of the doors

Shes a trailer queen, so i don't have to worry about being road legal

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The blue cable is an air hose

Its bolted to a bit of 6mm plate which i bent to lower the winch. This isn't as strong as if i bolted it to a flat plate but i think its good enough
Its quite good having this, because you tend to land on it instead of the tank
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Shes 24v at the moment, but it desperately needs more power. Ive been working on a 40 series that im putting an LS1 in. I reckon ill put that engine and gearbox into this truck

Cheers
 
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It shouldn't be any harder on gear than winching forward.
Where the straps you had dynamic or static?
I think your right, Now that ive thaught about it, it should be half the strain as regular winching because its a double line pull. or maybe because the winch is moving backwads with the truck, they equal each other out. I dunno

The strops that failed weren't stretchy, static. Maybe they were getting a bit old and tired.
Cheers
 
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Thanks for the info. Mine is a bit nicer than that so there will be no trimming of the doors. I can
source the dimensions of that winch from my friend here and go from there.
I haven’t seen a set of revolver shackles in a long time!
 
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