V8 (SBC) to V8 (Gen III Vortec) swap in my FJ60...

Discussion in '60-Series Wagons' started by orion, Aug 10, 2016.

  1. ufg8r

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    Looks good. Are you gonna add a kick out?
     
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    Thanks. Not sure on kick outs...I'd like to add them, but I prefer the clean look without. But I'd also like to have the extra protection!

    Honestly, it's going to come down to how much motivation I have left once I get them finished in this basic state. We'll see.

    - Brian
     
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    Extra protection, but they also help the kids get in and out....
     
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    A little progress has been made on my sliders...

    I've made mounting plates to bolt them to the frame, and have 4 of 6 total installed. Also have 2 actual legs made and tacked on.

    Like so:

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    (actual leg is in the foreground of the pic - The other 'leg' is my jig to locate the sliders as I work)

    They are mounted by 3 holes per mount, using 3/8-16 Grade 8 hardware. The lower 2 bolts will take most the load, so I am drilling all the way through the frame, and using a coupling nut (cut to size) as a frame insert (to prevent crushing and add overall strength). Two bolts per - One on the inner side of the frame rail, and one outside (also holds the slider on).

    I'm dropping the coupling nut / insert into the frame from one of the large rectangle holes (factory holes), and fishing them into place.

    102--frame-drilled.jpg

    Maybe hard to get what I'm saying...here's the idea:

    103--frame-insert.jpg

    So it's Bolt --> Slider Mount --> Frame --> Coupling Nut <-- Frame <-- Bolt from inside of frame

    Yes, it's harder than it needs to be...and more time consuming. However, it's the strongest method I could come up with to bolt them on without 1) anything hanging below the frame and 2) cutting larger holes / welding sleeves (hard to do on the pass. side rail, with all the lines running down it).

    The upper holes simply have a 1" tall / 3" long / 3/16" thick backing plate (with a nut welded to it) placed inside the frame.

    Anyway, I should have the rear 2 mounts done / welded on both sides this week...leaving only the front 2 legs to finish. Then paint. My deadline is Mardi Krawl in early-April.

    - Brian
     
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    Really nice looking.
     
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    Wouldn't be recognizable as one of your projects if it wast over complicated! Reckon you had some reason you didn't want to weld them on?
     
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    In case I want to remove / repaint / or modify them. Trying to "future proof" each thing I do to the truck..even if it's really unlikely I'll unbolt them for another 5-10 years.

    As I lay under the truck, drilling another hole...I do sometimes question my wisdom. haha...

    - Brian
     
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    Can you please post or PM me part numbers used for the iniversal AC system?
     
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    might be careful about that mount attachment point on the body mount at the rear. Certainly the frame is strong....not sure about the body mount points. FYI
     
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    Nothing too specific on the AC parts...universal condenser, custom lines in the sizes mentioned, etc...

    I agree...but it shouldn't be taking any real load - There's now a 1.5x1.5 square tube leg about 8" forward of the "jig" leg. Its purpose was only to lock in the slider location while I made the actual mounting legs.

    Making a couple temp mounts (legs) was the only way I could keep the sliders exactly where I wanted while I worked.

    - Brian
     
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    FINALLY have the sliders on the truck...

    106--sliders-done.jpg
    I actually finished them up and painted them Saturday before last...but I wanted to do a quick rust repair on the front lower fender(s). Not posting much about that - It was a pain, and I'm not completely in love with the result...but they are fixed and painted, and look 100% better than the large rust holes that were there. Once that was complete, I mounted them this weekend.

    Anyway, I painted the slider the same tan color as the center of the wheels, and I think it looks great.

    These were a TON more time and effort than I thought they would be to make. When you have to pull out all your tools every time you need to work on them...and are limited to cutting and grinding at night (trying not to piss off the neighbors)...the time adds up.

    But in the end, I have some beefy, custom sliders...and I jacked up the whole pass. side of the truck with them, and nothing broke. I'll call it a win!

    Here's 2 more pics:

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    ^^ You can see the gussets I added at the mounting flange...

    105--sliders-done.jpg

    This gives you an idea of how far they stick out. Just enough for my kids to get a toe hold / use them as a step.

    I should be able to put them to the test in a few weeks - Dragging the truck up to "Mardi Krawl" at Hawk Pride off road park in N. Alabama. Really looking forward to it.

    That's all. Thanks for following along.

    - Brian
     
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    Update time!

    The Cliff Notes: Trailered my 60 to North Alabama, bought another 60-series, went to a muddy Mardi Krawl, and banged the drivers rear into a boulder!

    The long version: Mardi Krawl has become an annual event for my 2 brothers and I...took a few pics, not as many as years past. It was a mud-fest...

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    (truck was still clean here)

    Just before heading up there, I found a FJ62 that needed saving, and made a deal to buy it. It had a rod knock, but also came with an extra 3F-E motor (and a 4-Plus bumper, and leather BMW seats, etc...). It's going to be my wife's daily driver (until she tires of it!)

    109--fj62--2-for-sale-picture.jpg
    (had the 62 shipped back to FL - I'll probably do a "mini" build thread on it)

    So I finalized that deal while I was in Huntsville, and grabbed the extra motor to bring it home. Stuck the motor on the front of my trailer like the Beverly Hillbillies:

    110--mk2018--new-fj62-motor.jpg

    You can also see how much mud stuck to the tires - That stuff was like clay! The new tires did really well, though...I was super happy to not be running the old BFG KO's this time around!

    Anyway, we wheeled pretty hard (this truck continues to amaze me with it's capabilities)...but I did tag a boulder on Saturday:

    108--mk2018.jpg

    ...

    Over the last few weeks, most of wrenching time has been dedicated to getting the 62 up and running with the new motor...but I did get the bumper and seats swapped onto my 60! My wife wants it all vintage on the 62, so the upgrades are mine. Win-win, in my book!

    (continued, next post)
     
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    So, the 4-Plus bumper is awesome...and it's a good fit (both in appearance, and design):

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    And the BMW seats on TorFab (?) brackets (installed, but not yet wired up):

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    They look nice with my center console (all black).

    Anyway, that's the latest. Thanks for checking out my build.

    - Brian
     
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    Still loving your setup. Everything about it :cool:
     
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    I got to take this truck out for a spin last weekend. Very well thought out, put together, and balanced 60. Good work Brian.
     
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    ^^^ I was glad you stopped by, and happy to let you drive it.

    ...

    Nothing really to update on the 'build'...

    I did replace the brake master cylinder (again), and that seems to have fixed my not-very-powerful braking.

    I'm kicking around the idea of building a storage drawer in the rear, for tools and recovery gear...I'd like something really low, and permanently mounted.

    Otherwise, it continues to perform and drive really well.

    - Brian
     
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