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I can't get over how cool you retro color theme looks. Nice job! Are the wheels the stock 18's painted?
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Thanks!
They're PlastiDipped, but now really showing the wear from a year's trail runs and routine wear. Planning on taking off the old spray and redoing, just need to make the time...
I'm curious did any of the 200's on this adventure have stock suspension and no armor? Curious if it'd even be possible without some major damage
How about stock suspension? Any of the 200's still havre it?
TexAZ
NEW???? It's BETTER than new!!!
poison spider is probably doable with at stock rig. golden spike, the crack, and gold bar trail require a decent amount of lift and a willingness to take some damage.
true, a stock 100 made it. both bumpers were hanging on by a thread and the front CVs were toast after that trip.
true, a stock 100 made it. both bumpers were hanging on by a thread and the front CVs were toast after that trip.
Sounds like i won't
Well that's good to know. I have the 17" Rock warrior's and BFG KO2's.....but that about it, the rest is stock at this point.
Very cool that'd be awesome. So in your opinion, in general for my priority order of upgrades Id be best off getting sliders 1st, then upgrade suspension down the line?
Maybe I'll do sliders 1st, I cant afford sliders and lift both at this point, and sliders are a smaller expense. My wife subscribes to the "replace it when it wears out" theory, so at 90k on the stock suspension it's still got some life on it. I subscribe to the "upgrade when i replace" theory so OME or Icon are what I'm thinking when i get to that point. My running boards on the other hand even around Phoenix on my mild newbie trails have taken some hits, so to avoid further damage I should probably get some sliders.
Canyonero
Beating up Land Cruisers since 2015
FWIW, I agree with @TonyP and @Atwalz but would stress that ground clearance is one of the biggest factors in what you do or don't scrape on.
@ethernectar is a great driver, but his smaller (33" I think) tires vs. most of the group's 34/35" tires made an enormous difference in some of the big rock ledge sections. I had just put 34" tires on my rig before the trip and was ever so thankful to have them.
It's hard to say one thing (sliders/lift/tires) is more important than another because each obstacle is a little different and people taking even slightly different lines hit different parts of their trucks.
@ethernectar is a great driver, but his smaller (33" I think) tires vs. most of the group's 34/35" tires made an enormous difference in some of the big rock ledge sections. I had just put 34" tires on my rig before the trip and was ever so thankful to have them.
It's hard to say one thing (sliders/lift/tires) is more important than another because each obstacle is a little different and people taking even slightly different lines hit different parts of their trucks.
Markuson
SILVER Star
Another way of looking at your wife's "replace when it wears out" thing?
-Beat the tar out of your plastic bumpers...and VOILA!!! They're "worn out!!"
REPLACEMENT TIME!!
...only this time, instead of spending on plastic...spend $1700 on a real, armored bumper(s)!
Leads to seats filled like this!...
The way I look at it, you can scrape and power through some sticky situations on sliders and not worry about damage if you don't have clearance from a lift. But if you only have a lift and no sliders, you need to be much more careful to not damage your vehicle due to lack of armor even though you have a clearance from a lift. If that makes sense.
Just different schools of thought. Ultimately, lift, sliders and tires are the holy trinity. You can do some gnarly stuff with just those three in a 200.
Just different schools of thought. Ultimately, lift, sliders and tires are the holy trinity. You can do some gnarly stuff with just those three in a 200.
Markuson
SILVER Star
I've been thinking about armor cost vs. damage costs without it.
The damage you DON'T end up paying for can easily = roughly 3x more (and up) than the cost of the armor...PER INCIDENT.
Had my Slee rear not saved my right side in Hell's Gate?
-Could have easily hit $8-12K to fix.
Had my TJM T13 not saved my hood, grill, radiator & stock bumper (& maybe a light or two)...
-Easily 3x what the TJM cost--not to mention a ruined Breck trip and wasted hotel stays.
Sliders? Door panels & rockers are not cheap.
-WAY more than a $900 set of sliders.
Armor isn't just cool...
It saves cool cash if you wheel.
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You caught onto my master planAnother way of looking at your wife's "replace when it wears out" thing?
-Beat the tar out of your plastic bumpers...and VOILA!!! They're "worn out!!"
REPLACEMENT TIME!!
...only this time, instead of spending on plastic...spend $1700 on a real, armored bumper(s)!
Leads to seats filled like this!...
. yeah bumpers are my 1st target because i already want to replace. I know she'd be embarrassed around town with a dented bumper so might as well trade up to the $4k Slee bumper. If only i could somehow speed up the suspension wear...I hit every speed bump and pothole i can find already, they just built it too robust.
Perfectly put! This sounds like the logical talk that might actually get me somewhere with my wife. It would unpractical NOT to get armor. I'm going to slowly use you exact logic and work it into all my daily conversations from this point out. BIG help, thanks bud!
Where did you get your TJM from, Slee? I heard they get them sometimes but they sell fast.
