The Official 1HD-T/FT Fuel Pump Mod Tuning Thread (1 Viewer)

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To be clear, Foreal has been doing just as much, if not more, R&D for his endevours far beyond internet blogs and info posted in the past by certain members here. He has put up all of his own finances just to offer up an alternative. Him and I have been in regular contact sharing ideas and possibilties.
Personally, I dont have much to gain from posting anything here. This forum has given me a lot of info and saved me a lot of grief over the years, and I figure giving it back is only fair.

I think a healthy competition, as well as a broader consumer choice is much needed in thee toyota diesel performance market. It's fine that a few guys have had almost a monopoly on the market for some time now, but did you actually expect it to last with such a good number of people interested in hopping up their trucks?

Sure, I took apart XXI industries pump from a curiousity perspective, and didnt find anything too stupendous, or impressive, but I'm sure as hell not going to copy it, nor is Foreal looking to copy a GTurbo. As youll no doubt see in the results of his time and money put into play very soon, he has his own brand of killer hard parts to offer.

As far as releasing information by myself or Foreal on the injection systems or turbo sides of the coin, I cant really see any of that hurting Gturbo or XXI's sales of their turbo's, pumps or go-fast parts, It just shows that the guys building the stuff are educated enough to do such a thing. I cant see too many people taking this info and attempting a DIY build on their own. Somebody with the proper tools and equipment still has to build and test the pump, turbo, intercooler,or whatever. It does, however, give them a chance to weigh the pros and cons of each products specs and choose their bits according to what they actually want, instead of "Well, everyone else is getting that one, must be the best, right?".
The whole point of these forums is to share information, experience and know-how.
Some people here are EXTREMELY lucky to have such a cheap way of advertisement and word of mouth that travels lightning fast.

I once tried contacting XXI about a few vague details on their "high-flowed" set of HDT Injectors to be paired with the new pump they've just released. A customer of mine was interested in the pump and injectors, and wanted my opinion on them. I told him I would ask and get the low down. One answer was "I don't know what the tech does, something with the pressures I think, and I think they are stock nozzles." and the other reply told me to stop trying to steal information, in a few more words... Never mind my questions about the pumps.

So anyway, whatever, we'll do our thing and they'll do their thing. No hard feelings, but don't accuse people of stealing or being lazy with their R&D when we clearly can't possibly do that with the info that is given out. Some people share the same kind of passion for this kind of stuff as others, so hard to believe?

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That intake/cooler is slick bud. Love it. good work.
 
ya im thinking bc is doing pretty good in the performance mod end of things. just look at all the domestic mods comeing out of here now and use the same principles for an import. i wonder how many 1hdt's are actually in bc ,200 maybe lol. Id be more upset at the guys mass produceing your parts for others too.
 
Jon, no idea what you are talking about. There is no market monopoly from xxi or Gturbo. Simply a lot of hard work and a product offered. I have no problem at all with anyone doing all their own work and bringing out anything they like. I think it should be supported.

You qoute xxiindustries reply and play it out as if they are dumb - But emails and messages wanting to know everything we do and parts used for our pumps - forget it. That is the smart answer.

Look at what xxiindustries has done. Spend more time and $$ than anyone else to develope a pump/injectors combo than can support the chosen power, while delivering simply great fuel economy. These pumps and injectors are at a release price of $2850. Now in Aus, a standard stock pump rebuild runs $1600-$2000, injectors $800.

So all we have done is produce a pump and injectors for as close to a stock rebuild price as possible - but a far far better product. It's actually going to take a very long time before any profit is made. We also offer a 2 year warranty (double that of anyone else). Anyone can build a stock pump, or a max flow pump. Building 1 for a targeted hp rating while return unreal fuel Eco is extremely hard.

So I find what you say some what hypocritical or uneducated to think we have any kind of monopoly. We are leading the front because we put the time and effort in to do so. Our pumps do exactly as we advertise they do (results). I make no oppollogies at all for protecting our intellectual property. And only ask others respect that.

The fact that you took apart 1 of xxi first HZ pumps for "curiosity purposes" shows to me that yourself or Karter can't be trusted at all. And you wonder why I have no time for you. What else are you guys trying rip off?
 
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If I get this right ... if I buy your pump ( performance/upgraded pump ) I can't open it to see what's inside or the mods you did to it ?

that's bad coz If I buy something .. I would like to now how it works .. coz I wanna know what I'm paying for, and also if a friend of mine ask me, what's the secret behind that marvelous pump I have .. I would tell him what I discover ..

so by your definition I'm not a trust able person .?

That was what Mr. T was trying to do to us when they attract Toyodiy .. and what we do .. ( what I did ) I take side .. our side ..
 
^ you won't have to. We now don't ship overseas anymore. And remove any identifying markings. Buy 1 from yotahed.
 
^ you won't have to. We now don't ship overseas anymore. And remove any identifying markings. Buy 1 from yotahed.

Ahahahah if that is not acting like a child I don't know what is....

FWIW I thought Yota gave a good response, yours well....
 
Ha ha, not childish or hasty response. US/Canada etc is not our target market, never was. With our huge work loads the current local market is more than enough.
 
Well i hope that is not the case. After your clutch and the grunter gturbo i was planning to next get the matched pump.

Same here, minus the clutch... I like my auto. I was going to go air box (that thing is thing of beauty), then pump/injectors when needed.
 
wow, boy, man up, you actually think everybody's going to copy your product for resale over here . have you lost your business sence there's no market here for that , i'd be more worried about your own back yard if your going to be parinoid. And if your going to drag this out personally after what was found out about the pin inside your pump i would recomend everyone to at least look into that part. i seem to remember you following my intake mod mod . didnt se me getting all hiffy about it. big deal man nobody is reproduceing anybodies product for resale. let it be known that i think ateb's pump is the cats meow and frankly years ahead of others but he doesn't even rebuild them fo resale lol. There is a following for your guys's product ,and frankly a good product . shoot i just about bought one of the first gturbo's but was still playing with a bunch of mods and hadn't hit the limit yet ,so stop being so nervous a stay supplying those that want it .
 
Did not know Mark was doing pump and injectors, no info on his website. I see they have an interesting rear bar with integral winch fairlead, very nice. His business is turning into a one stop shop for the 80, only missing 4" SS snorkels and 3" exhausts..... hint hint.

I may not agree with his responses to others on this forum, and sometimes its just better to say nothing at all, but its obvious to me he shows a lot of passion towards his projects, and protectiveness as a result.

I for one would view people copying something as a good sign, it shows you have a great product. For every one person that copies, there will be a hundred that will just choose to buy.

The majority of people on this site are, like myself, tinkerers. Why pay someone to fix something for you when you can do it yourself?

I try very hard to fix/fabricate everything myself, but I still buy some stuff off the shelf. I would be very interested to know what goes on inside a performance pump but at the end of the day I will still send the thing to an expert to be rebuilt as its just not worth investing time and money buying machinery to make the same modifications on something that i will not have to touch for another ten years.
 
Yeah I second that. I love building stuff, but I can't see myself getting into a pump ever. I rather rebuild an engine than do that. If you don't want to sell pumps up here that is disappointing, but after all we do have almost a half billion people on our continent roughly, so I'm pretty sure we can source one locally here too.
 
Personally I don't plan on replicating the pump I bought. Nor am I copying the old gturbo I bought.
So you can sleep soundly.

I'm going to ask questions about what I buy. Why, because I don't have to go knocking on australia's door when something goes wrong and I am stuck somewhere waiting for a special part. For example I wanted to know the crack pressures on my injectors I bought. I know this is a custom part set to your pump but when your get your injectors done ever 100,000kms it would be nice to get them set locally here to your custom pump.

I didn't have a local avenue to follow for a custom pump and it was the best avenue at the time to get a pump done.
I know a little more about them now and its all not that complicated but I am not at all set up for building pumps. Nobody wanted to mess with outside of stock parameters for me though.

I want to put the pump on and not worry about it for the next 250,000kms + or until I am done with my cruiser.
Performance wise my truck is almost exactly where I want it to be.

I'm sure Swaffie (Diesel Central) and Matt (UFI) will build anyone up a performance pump.
Hell any injection guy can do it if he is willing to tinker (found a few more guys since)
Tell the pump builder your goals and go from there. He will set fuel to suit.
 
Well I thank everyone for your supportive words. Yours too Karter.

I'm not paranoid about anything. I just work tirelessly hard 17 hours a day. And a few of the products even harder. The pump/injectors took 6 months and huge financial burden. For me, it's the moral of the thing. Someone can have the same info that I worked EXTREMELY hard to achieve.

I don't wish to release any info about these pumps. But that doesn't mean anything is fishy. And if that makes me a bad person - sue me :). All I'm happy to do is produce results. These pumps 250rwhp and 12.2L/100k's. Performance - outstanding. And it's not anywhere near as easy as you might think Karter. Yes, swaffie and other pump companies/any pump builder and get a pump to make 250rwhp. The white 1 in my video has a swaffie race pump. Goes extremely well... But the Eco is just not there. 400-450k's per tank. Which makes the hp bitter sweet.
 
The new website is due for release soon. And will be updated weekly with products and loads of free tech. Mostly 80 series and extremely high tech diesel info. Expect to see performance exhaust/snorkels mudbludger.
 
glad to see everyone has a better understanding,and totally understandable. i think the next major thing to do with these motors now is a flow tuned header pipe . I haven't seen any that are for full high flow, and there is a ton of room down there.
 
Great idea, would be good to have the turbo mounted a bit higher, has the makings of an "official" thread.
 
There are avenues to follow if you really want to go the highmount route.
I read somewhere that the stock manifold is best as outlets are angled instead of a gineric log manifold.
Better flows so to speak without eddies. Also remember that there isn't a negligable to change the manifold in terms of flow.
What really matters is a proper turbo set up (turbine housing, turbine/compressor sizing)
 
Just to put this silly push rod business to bed. This is how we do ours. Its milled/machined from 4140. They are done this way so we can then case harden them without the fear of the pin warping to give as good service life as factory chrome plated. These have been fine tuned to the pumps to be very close indeed to the correct tuning specs for the given parameters. But fine tuning adjustments will always need to be made due to many variables.

The same cant be said for custom tuning push rods (not our pump). They need to be ground and are left with a polished finish.

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