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gets me fired up for football
There is nothing like an anthem to get ya fired up for football.
Enjoy....especially Richard.
http://www.tooncesworld.com/images/2001chicken.mp3
There is nothing like an anthem to get ya fired up for football.
Enjoy....especially Richard.
http://www.tooncesworld.com/images/2001chicken.mp3
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we did that very play on my middle school team............. didn't work like that though the corner was follwoing the QB all the way to the sideline 
agreed.
Lisa knew that the best school in SC was USC, not Clemson.
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Looks like the SEC has the top 20 wrapped up this year.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/specials/preview/2007/scouting/index.html
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/specials/preview/2007/scouting/index.html
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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2988341
Good to see that USC players think highly of their academics.
Good to see that USC players think highly of their academics.
Somebody clearly didnt read the article. Nothing takes affect til next yr chief. You wont really know how it affects you until Sept 22 anyway they are sending a donor specific report to everyone telling them exactly what they have to do to keep their seats or to change to any other section.
Football Smoooootball... 
LOL, I don't know enough to make a blanket comment about the program overall (and certainly don't want to fuel the CU vs. USC debate - at least not until we get close to kickoff
) but Blake Mitchell undoubtedly has to be one of the dumbest players in a big time college football program. He is doing himself no favors if he has any intention to make a run at the NFL draft. I don't understand how some of these kids can have so much opportunity ahead of them and routinely piss it away by being morans. Blake Mitchell is the leader of that group...
LOL, and no kickoff has even occurred yet. Won't stay that way all season long...
You are correct... we'll have 6, not a measly 5.
You are correct... we'll have 6, not a measly 5.
Hmmm, you're not doing that UGA degree justice Steen. You have 6 now.
Hmmm, you're not doing that UGA degree justice Steen. You have 6 now.
I coulda been a USC QB... missed my calling!
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Admissions should be left out of coaches’ hands
NOW THAT STEVE Spurrier has spoken publicly about the matter, Tommy Bowden is compelled to chime in. The difference between the two is that Spurrier recognizes the battle is primarily over when athletes are told they will not be admitted to school. Bowden continues to make the fight about which athletes should be admitted.
Spurrier nearly crossed the line when he challenged the USC administration. Bowden is out of bounds when he says all athletes eligible by NCAA standards should be admitted to Clemson.
“That’s what you’d like,” Bowden said. “They’re going to pay me all this money and put me in charge, then I’d like to make the decisions (about admissions).”
I’m not certain when coaches began to believe they had more power than a school president, or an admissions committee or any other segment of the academic community. In Bowden’s case, maybe it stems from watching his famous father — Florida State coach Bobby Bowden — become bigger than his athletics director or university president.
Certainly, in Bowden’s case, it stems from his tremendous success with the academic side of his program. His program’s graduation success rate was second in the nation among top-25 teams in September of 2006, and his teams have posted the top six grade-point averages in football program history.
Bowden should be commended for producing winning football teams as well as steering his players on course for graduation. That does not mean he should gain any control over admissions procedures for the university.
His claim is that a commission of university presidents several years ago established minimum NCAA guidelines for prospective athletes to be admitted to school. Thus, he says, schools should abide by those minimum standards.
“They took the presidents and they spent years and invested millions of dollars and said, OK, if he gets an 820 (SAT score) and 2.5 (GPA), for the most part, he can succeed in college,” Bowden said. “Now, who are we to say, wait a minute, no, no, not this school they can’t (be admitted and succeed). That’s where I have a problem.”
The problem with Bowden’s logic is that nearly every request for a special admission to his program — and that of Spurrier’s at USC — has been granted over the past three years. More than 50 percent of both coaches’ past three recruiting classes were special admissions. Understand, a special admission is one who would not qualify under standard college admissions guidelines.
The handful of prospective athletes at USC and Clemson who were denied admission over the past two recruiting classes were extreme cases. At both schools, a special admissions committee believed those few prospective football players had little or no chance of succeeding in college.
Really, the academic side of the universities was doing the two coaches a favor. If those students had been admitted and not eventually graduated, the programs would lose scholarships. Yet, while Spurrier backed down some and recognized that the academic side can work with him, Bowden continues to paint an us-vs.-them scenario.
“You see his background,” Bowden said, using a fictitious prospective athlete to make his point, “and a guy’s father died when he was in the ninth grade, and he missed four weeks of school, and had to take some Fs.”
His illustration was to show the human side of an application. He said academic folks only see the black-and-white side, the athlete’s class rank, SAT score and GPA.
“We see some of the underlying effects, why those things might not necessarily be what they are,” Bowden said. “That’s maybe where a little bit of the misunderstanding comes from.”
Bowden also said that there is natural friction between academics and athletics. He said animosity is created when athletes get into school as special admissions while prospective students with a 4.0 GPA and 1200 SAT score are denied admission. He said there exists jealousy over his million-dollar salary, while university professors seldom reach six figures.
No doubt, that all exists. That does not mean that any special admissions committee is working against the athletic department. In fact, those committees at USC and Clemson work diligently to help their athletic programs and coaches. More than anything, those conditions underscore the fact that a campus operates as a university first and as an athletics department later down the list.
Near the end of his conversation with a couple of reporters Sunday, Bowden was told that the state of Mississippi has a court order that deals with special admissions for athletes. The order says that any prospective athlete eligible under NCAA standards must be admitted to a state supported school.
“I think that’s great legislation,” Bowden said, repeating for emphasis, “I think that’s great legislation.”
The state of South Carolina is fortunate to have two coaches at their major public universities that stress the importance of education to their athletes. Bowden and Spurrier should also be happy that their respective schools are making changes to assure that prospective athletes are informed well in advance that they might not qualify for admission.
But to challenge a school’s denial of a special admission to any prospective athlete is to stoop to Mississippi’s level. No one in the state of South Carolina should ever want that.
NOW THAT STEVE Spurrier has spoken publicly about the matter, Tommy Bowden is compelled to chime in. The difference between the two is that Spurrier recognizes the battle is primarily over when athletes are told they will not be admitted to school. Bowden continues to make the fight about which athletes should be admitted.
Spurrier nearly crossed the line when he challenged the USC administration. Bowden is out of bounds when he says all athletes eligible by NCAA standards should be admitted to Clemson.
“That’s what you’d like,” Bowden said. “They’re going to pay me all this money and put me in charge, then I’d like to make the decisions (about admissions).”
I’m not certain when coaches began to believe they had more power than a school president, or an admissions committee or any other segment of the academic community. In Bowden’s case, maybe it stems from watching his famous father — Florida State coach Bobby Bowden — become bigger than his athletics director or university president.
Certainly, in Bowden’s case, it stems from his tremendous success with the academic side of his program. His program’s graduation success rate was second in the nation among top-25 teams in September of 2006, and his teams have posted the top six grade-point averages in football program history.
Bowden should be commended for producing winning football teams as well as steering his players on course for graduation. That does not mean he should gain any control over admissions procedures for the university.
His claim is that a commission of university presidents several years ago established minimum NCAA guidelines for prospective athletes to be admitted to school. Thus, he says, schools should abide by those minimum standards.
“They took the presidents and they spent years and invested millions of dollars and said, OK, if he gets an 820 (SAT score) and 2.5 (GPA), for the most part, he can succeed in college,” Bowden said. “Now, who are we to say, wait a minute, no, no, not this school they can’t (be admitted and succeed). That’s where I have a problem.”
The problem with Bowden’s logic is that nearly every request for a special admission to his program — and that of Spurrier’s at USC — has been granted over the past three years. More than 50 percent of both coaches’ past three recruiting classes were special admissions. Understand, a special admission is one who would not qualify under standard college admissions guidelines.
The handful of prospective athletes at USC and Clemson who were denied admission over the past two recruiting classes were extreme cases. At both schools, a special admissions committee believed those few prospective football players had little or no chance of succeeding in college.
Really, the academic side of the universities was doing the two coaches a favor. If those students had been admitted and not eventually graduated, the programs would lose scholarships. Yet, while Spurrier backed down some and recognized that the academic side can work with him, Bowden continues to paint an us-vs.-them scenario.
“You see his background,” Bowden said, using a fictitious prospective athlete to make his point, “and a guy’s father died when he was in the ninth grade, and he missed four weeks of school, and had to take some Fs.”
His illustration was to show the human side of an application. He said academic folks only see the black-and-white side, the athlete’s class rank, SAT score and GPA.
“We see some of the underlying effects, why those things might not necessarily be what they are,” Bowden said. “That’s maybe where a little bit of the misunderstanding comes from.”
Bowden also said that there is natural friction between academics and athletics. He said animosity is created when athletes get into school as special admissions while prospective students with a 4.0 GPA and 1200 SAT score are denied admission. He said there exists jealousy over his million-dollar salary, while university professors seldom reach six figures.
No doubt, that all exists. That does not mean that any special admissions committee is working against the athletic department. In fact, those committees at USC and Clemson work diligently to help their athletic programs and coaches. More than anything, those conditions underscore the fact that a campus operates as a university first and as an athletics department later down the list.
Near the end of his conversation with a couple of reporters Sunday, Bowden was told that the state of Mississippi has a court order that deals with special admissions for athletes. The order says that any prospective athlete eligible under NCAA standards must be admitted to a state supported school.
“I think that’s great legislation,” Bowden said, repeating for emphasis, “I think that’s great legislation.”
The state of South Carolina is fortunate to have two coaches at their major public universities that stress the importance of education to their athletes. Bowden and Spurrier should also be happy that their respective schools are making changes to assure that prospective athletes are informed well in advance that they might not qualify for admission.
But to challenge a school’s denial of a special admission to any prospective athlete is to stoop to Mississippi’s level. No one in the state of South Carolina should ever want that.
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/7149212
Aww what a shame poor old Blake couldnt make it to class. Have a
while your ass gets splinters. Good thing USC is opening with a cupcake. To bad they will have no continuity or rythm for week 2 when they play the dogs.
Aww what a shame poor old Blake couldnt make it to class. Have a
while your ass gets splinters. Good thing USC is opening with a cupcake. To bad they will have no continuity or rythm for week 2 when they play the dogs.
http://www.thestate.com/gamecocks/story/156627.html
Blakie needs to tell "Nugget" that he's a big boy now and the teachers don't call home when he misses a class like they do when you skip a bunch in HS
Blakie needs to tell "Nugget" that he's a big boy now and the teachers don't call home when he misses a class like they do when you skip a bunch in HS