SLEE 200 Bumper Photos...! *UPDATE!*

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can you take a picture looking out the rear window? how much of your view does the tire block?
do you have to open both swing outs to open the top half of the rear hatch?

thanks.
 
A shot dead on from the rear would be useful as well to view the tail light obstruction.
 
can you take a picture looking out the rear window? how much of your view does the tire block?
do you have to open both swing outs to open the top half of the rear hatch?

thanks.

Related to that... On the production bumper, I believe you can actually adjust the ride height of the bracket the wheel attaches to...
 
What is this little doo-hickie?

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Looks like it's for a "whip" flag.
 
Can you also take some pictures of how the screen looks when backing up? Just want to see how much is blocked.

Looks like if you have the jerry can carrier, it will be severely blocked without relocation. But with no jerry can carrier, and should be pretty good...since the camera on the LC's camera is just beneath the first part of the letter "N" on the chrome "LAND CRUISER" badge...which well left of center. I'm getting the carrier, so relocation might be something I need to do... Maybe Christo (@sleeoffroad) will weigh in...? I do like my rear camera...and will have the can carrier...
 
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Looks like if you have the jerry can carrier, it will be severely blocked without relocation. But with no jerry can carrier, and should be pretty good...since the camera on the LC's camera is just beneath the first part of the letter "N" on the chrome "LAND CRUISER" badge...which well left of center. I'm getting the carrier, so relocation might be something I need to do... Maybe Christo (@sleeoffroad) will weigh in...? I do like my rear camera...and will have the can carrier...

Thanks for the info. I really like it too. My previous vehicle didn't have a camera, so it's my first with one. Also, on these 16+ with the overhead view, I assume relocation would make the view jacked up.
 
can you take a picture looking out the rear window? how much of your view does the tire block?
do you have to open both swing outs to open the top half of the rear hatch?

thanks.

The view out the back isn't terrific to begin with (especially with our oldest in the 3rd row back there) and yes the tire definitely obstructs the side that matters most to US drivers... But hey, use your side mirrors. If I'm being honest the view reminds me of driving my full-size Broncos around (in a good-nostalgic sort of way.)

Also yes, have to open both sides of the swing-outs to open the rear hatch, although if you forget your order of operations you can certainly close both swing-outs and leave the top hatch open, not that I would know or anything.

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Did they mention what the thought process was in putting the tire on the passenger side? Just curious as I've seen it done both ways and get there are pros/cons of each.

If the tire were on the driver side, it would block the camera, as the camera sits quite a bit left of center (toward driver side).
By putting the tire on the right...you don't have to move the camera.
 
The view out the back isn't terrific to begin with (especially with our oldest in the 3rd row back there) and yes the tire definitely obstructs the side that matters most to US drivers... But hey, use your side mirrors. If I'm being honest the view reminds me of driving my full-size Broncos around (in a good-nostalgic sort of way.)

Also yes, have to open both sides of the swing-outs to open the rear hatch, although if you forget your order of operations you can certainly close both swing-outs and leave the top hatch open, not that I would know or anything.

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How about a shot of your reverse camera view?
 
I'll take a pic in the AM. It's somewhat obstructed, but the rear view camera (really all the exterior cameras) in these trucks is kind of garbage anyway, so I'm not too sad about it.
 
I'll take a pic in the AM. It's somewhat obstructed, but the rear view camera (really all the exterior cameras) in these trucks is kind of garbage anyway, so I'm not too sad about it.

You think? I actually find the backup camera extremely helpful. I don't have any others...but I consider it basically a clearance camera. Not concerned with image quality, but really just contact avoidance in close quarters... Anyway...curious what shows back there. :)
 
Yeah, my complaint is image quality, the distortion created by the lens they used that's not sorted out by software, and then the contrast/dynamic range resulting in a very washed out image to boot.

The camera system we had on our X5M was similar - cameras on rear, sides, maybe front? - Can't remember - but the fidelity was amazing and the image stitching it did for the 360 view made Toyota's implementation look like a middle schooler's project.

Even my Cadillac's backup cam is higher fidelity and far easier to made out depth and detail (and let's be honest - 00s GM isn't known for their amazing in-car electronics,) which when you're glancing at it for but a moment while also checking mirrors and other moving objects, the less my brain has to process the better.

So with that said, here's a shot with snow today for added difficulty:

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If I had a Rotopax or a basket on the driver's side rack the left-third of the image would definitely also be obscured. I may think about how to experiment with the camera at a later date if my wife complains.

Ps, for comparison, I went and found an image of the BMW's rear view & 360 degree view:

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Note the lack of distortion (corrected by software) in the top-down view:

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Some of the newer models even stitch together a front view:

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There's also some of their models that even have fender-level cameras, which for rock crawling or trail riding (lol at the idea in a BMW) would be amazing:

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Versus this unhelpful mess we get:

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I realize Toyota's also trying to show you what's on your rockers but the image quality is so poor as to be useless. Better have a passenger that can stick their head out the window instead. It's not like I don't love the truck, but this system wasn't even market-competitive upon the '08 launch, much less the 2013 update.

Would love for this community to find a way to upgrade our camera system!
 
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Thank you very much for posting the pictures. I agree that the image quality is severely lacking for this price range of vehicle. They have improved a bit on the newer models adding a 360 view among other changes. It's wet and rainy here, so images a bit worse than normal.



 
I relocated mine a while back. You could do it in the same fashion. Pictured is the final mounting location and the unobstructed view. Paver Driveway is my moms, i know its awesome. Im sure if you want Christos crew can relocate your camera for you in no time.

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And for a center mounted rear view comparison seeing how left and right mounted are being discussed above.

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