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Seen you on the WA board, I lurk, but too many nimrods (I do not consider you one) over there for me to get involved. Wish the posters were more like 'mudders.
So true . . .
here's what I was thinking of - they don't describe it, but the one at the top, that the pistol actually comes completely clear of the vault.
Versa Mount Pistol Safe Vault
Versa Mount Pistol Safe Vault
Looks like a slight variation on the Titan Gun Vault, very similar.
This approach I am not in favor of. No reason to give the officer any more to be excited about. Certainly if there is a chance he will see it, inform. If there is no requirement in your state, then there is no good reason to.
How many locks is it supposed to be behind? Two, three? Where does it end? My locked car (or house) is a secured container. Everyone knows that they are not supposed to break in, and to keep their dick beaters off what's inside.
The size of the box doesn't matter as long as it's locked. Any box can be forced to open.
How hard is it to break into an 80? I can break into a stock 80 in about 20 seconds with just a flathead screwdriver without damaging anything....and about 2 seconds if I don't mind popping a window.
How long would it take me to break open a solid steel box that's bolted to the body? With a power tools probably 5 minutes. With hand tools, probably 30+ minutes.
Your typical thief will easily be able to break into your truck. They will take one look at the vault, say
, and move on.
No, you "lost your rights" (which you haven't) because a very small minority of law-abiding gun owners - and every criminal - abuse that right by killing people out of anger or whatever. Don't blame liberals - blame criminals.
Let's stay on topic- I am interested in long-gun options.
And before the reactionaries pile-on about how foreigners have no rights freedom of speech when it comes to criticism, I am an American citizen, Canadian citizen, and British subject. Triple threat!
I would like to see a tailgate mounted secure mount for a shotty. Anyone have one?
edit: Firetruck and Ebag - kudos for your common sense!
So maybe I'm just overthinking this...but why not just turn the lower console unit into a safe?
It's already bolted to the floor. Not easy to remove. And it's large enough to hold most hand guns (and a few spare clips).
Two thoughts I've considered:
1) Build a box that will slide/drop into the lower unit. For added strength you could attach it to the bolts on the bottom of the unit, but if the fit is tight it will be very difficult to remove without the door open.
Pros: Basically permanant, not removable without destroying the lower console. Cons: More complex, lose a little bit of room in the console.
2) Attach two pieces of angle iron to either side of the console. Could be done with bolts, self tapping screws, etc, but just as easily done (and nearly as strong) with some high strength industrial glue. A simple door (hinge on one piece of angle iron, lock on the other) to secure it.
Pros: Simple, easily built with maybe an hours worth of work. Cons: Not as strong (but still strong enough to defeat your common criminal).
For long guns there are really only two good solutions for secure storage.
1) Get a WagonGear tailgate (or fab your own) and get a lock for it. For additional security and quick/easy mounting attach some Life Jacket style mounts inside the tailgate.
2) Fab up some mounts inside the rear quarter panels. It would be easy to do a Life Jacket style mount inside the quarter which would be out of sight and fairly secure (though not as secure as #1). For a more secure style you could get some round tubing that your long gun will slide into, and mount that inside the quarter panel. Fab up some sort of door for the front of it.
I think I'm going to try converting the lower console unit into a lockbox. Shouldn't be hard.
It's already bolted to the floor. Not easy to remove. And it's large enough to hold most hand guns (and a few spare clips).
Two thoughts I've considered:
1) Build a box that will slide/drop into the lower unit. For added strength you could attach it to the bolts on the bottom of the unit, but if the fit is tight it will be very difficult to remove without the door open.
Pros: Basically permanant, not removable without destroying the lower console. Cons: More complex, lose a little bit of room in the console.
2) Attach two pieces of angle iron to either side of the console. Could be done with bolts, self tapping screws, etc, but just as easily done (and nearly as strong) with some high strength industrial glue. A simple door (hinge on one piece of angle iron, lock on the other) to secure it.
Pros: Simple, easily built with maybe an hours worth of work. Cons: Not as strong (but still strong enough to defeat your common criminal).
For long guns there are really only two good solutions for secure storage.
1) Get a WagonGear tailgate (or fab your own) and get a lock for it. For additional security and quick/easy mounting attach some Life Jacket style mounts inside the tailgate.
2) Fab up some mounts inside the rear quarter panels. It would be easy to do a Life Jacket style mount inside the quarter which would be out of sight and fairly secure (though not as secure as #1). For a more secure style you could get some round tubing that your long gun will slide into, and mount that inside the quarter panel. Fab up some sort of door for the front of it.
I think I'm going to try converting the lower console unit into a lockbox. Shouldn't be hard.
Mossberg makes a loc-box that should work with most shotguns not adorned with side saddles and what not:
Like any other mounting option you will need to find something solid to attach it to. The loc-box is designed for use on home walls so you will need to fashion a second and maybe third point that the shotgun can rest against to keep it from rattling around.
Yeah, that's the stuff. What I would like, ideally, is something like that that securely bolts to the inside of the tailgate, but can be removed completely so the gate can be used normally. Like, maybe a metal plate replacing the carpeted inner skin of the gate, with a threaded sleeve the lock would bolt to. I have cargo drawers, so if there is a permanently attached lock box, I can't get them open. I think maybe the answer is secure storage inside the tailgate.
Not sure if anyone in this thread has covered this option, but the Tuffy 8" wide centre console is a great fit in the 80.
The storage volume is INSANE. I have had - all at one time - a socket set, cb radio, SLR, telephoto lens, wallet, cell phone, and a bagged Taurus 9mm in there, with room to spare.
Here's my install write-up, with pix.
https://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/258917-how-install-tuffy-security-console-your-80-81-a.html
A tuffy is always an option, but prefer the OEM one. At least until it breaks, then the tuffy will get thrown in.
Tuffy would be a good option, I am waiting for Warfield Offroad to produce a metal version of his console.
Just wanted to clarify, in B.C. Canada on a non restrictricted fire arm no trigger lock is needed nor does it need to be out of sight while you are in the vehicle, unloaded is the only necessary requirement. If leaving the vehicle it needs to be out of sight if the vehicle is capable of being locked (not a convertable), but still no trigger lock is needed.
I keep a copy of the regs in my glove box. I have been pulled over with my rifle lying between me and the tranny tunnel and was quite surprised at the local police lack of knowledge of transport rules. I asked him politely if he wanted to see the regs, he denied and and let me go on my way.
Gunvaults can be cable tied or bolted to the floor. I understand you want to be able to get to it quick, you can opt for the BIOvault and have it read your finger prints and pop open. I would be leery of having a holster where peering eyes could see it and break in thinking they have an easy target! Just a thought. I like that "roof mount" idea.
Ultimate solution
Step 1. Put in a Tuffy Console
Step 2. Put single DIN radio in Tuffy Console
Step 3. Build a box using the stock double DIN radio as a patern
Step 4. Put a solenoid on double DIN box w/ hidden push button.
Step 5. Cut the front off your stock radio - glue to new box.
Step 6. Put a back-up cable on the solenoid hidden under the ashtray incase of power loss.
Now, it's quickly accessable, it's locked (can't open w/o ignition on), and it's completely hidden.
Yes, I was a drug smuggler in a previous life....
oh, ya', if you're really good with electronics, put in a electric combo lock that you punch your code into with the pre-sets on the radio
Step 1. Put in a Tuffy Console
Step 2. Put single DIN radio in Tuffy Console
Step 3. Build a box using the stock double DIN radio as a patern
Step 4. Put a solenoid on double DIN box w/ hidden push button.
Step 5. Cut the front off your stock radio - glue to new box.
Step 6. Put a back-up cable on the solenoid hidden under the ashtray incase of power loss.
Now, it's quickly accessable, it's locked (can't open w/o ignition on), and it's completely hidden.
Yes, I was a drug smuggler in a previous life....
oh, ya', if you're really good with electronics, put in a electric combo lock that you punch your code into with the pre-sets on the radio
Well, we can get into semantics if you like...but I know for sure that this past hunting season police were targetting hunters for improper storage of firearms if they left their rifles in their trucks without a trigger lock...pathetic, I know.
This is straight from the Canadian Firearms Centre...
You can risk having to go to court and argue that your vehicle that can have a window smashed in about two seconds and your firearm stolen is "hard to break into" or not...or you can just store it out of sight trigger locked and be sure that you're covered. Totally up to you...but just remember that these regs are up for interpretation...I'm just not convinced you have the "most hassle free" interpretation.
Anyway...back to your regular program...I apologize to our American brethren for having to read through our painful Canadian gun regs...lol.
PM me if you want to discuss further...
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Well, we can get into semantics if you like...but I know for sure that this past hunting season police were targetting hunters for improper storage of firearms if they left their rifles in their trucks without a trigger lock...pathetic, I know.
This is straight from the Canadian Firearms Centre...
You can risk having to go to court and argue that your vehicle that can have a window smashed in about two seconds and your firearm stolen is "hard to break into" or not...or you can just store it out of sight trigger locked and be sure that you're covered. Totally up to you...but just remember that these regs are up for interpretation...I'm just not convinced you have the "most hassle free" interpretation.
Anyway...back to your regular program...I apologize to our American brethren for having to read through our painful Canadian gun regs...lol.
PM me if you want to discuss further...
Yeah, the police sometimes need to be educated. I prefer to be informed armed with a copy of the regs and stand up for the little bit of rights (or privileges as the government calls them) we do have.
Again .. misguided rhetoric. A good majority of the individuals that facilitate gun crime are NOT LEGAL owners. Not sure where you got your info from ..
We HAVE lost rights (Since you are Canadian, you know what we have lost in terms of ownership over the years) .. but not all of them, you are correct there. Be prepared to lose more (as a Canadian anyway). Everyone seems to have their own reasoning for why gun control works or doesn't work, but the reality is that gun control only prevents regular, law abiding citizens from rightfully carrying and using their firearms as responsible individuals. Controls do nothing to prevent criminals from doing whatever they like. It doesn't slow the flow of illegal weapons, it doesn't make anyone any safer when they walk the streets at night .. other than the criminals that is.
The Liberals continue to be a big part of the gun control agenda in Canada ... sorry my friend, their track record speaks for itself. If you voted Liberal, you most certainly are to blame (at least partially).
Maybe I can't get rid of the criminal element, but I can certainly do my best to get rid of the Liberals! At least it's a start. Life's too short, and I am not here to win any argument. I just wanted to point out that politicians play a HUGE role in gun control. If you don't believe that .. you cannot be reasoned with anyway. Back to the topic!
OK Creeper .. waiting to see those designs of yours. The storage area in the tailgate is another viable solution. Keep em coming boyz!
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