Build New project, 1969 fj40

[locklaw]

Next drama. Ordered a new oem fuel pump from city racer, got here in 2 days!
Not exactly a direct replacement though.
The flange is thicker so I had to scrounge some longer bolts.
The barbed fitting doesn’t come out so I can’t retrofit my existing fitting.
The existing hose is too short anyway.
So it’s off to the store next week for a barbed fitting for the fuel filter housing and some longer hose/clamps.

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Save that plastic hose, don't just cut it if still pliable. You need the pre 12/72 (if you go by the CR listings) fuel pump and they are harder to find. Functionally a barbed fitting on the filter, hose and some clamps will get you going and keep options for fuel pumps easy.

 

[6f40j9]

So what do people do when changing out the fuel pump on an older 40?
I can’t get the barbed fitting out of the new fuel pump and I can’t get the fittings off my old (now too short) fuel line.
I also can’t find m9 barbed fittings local either (for the fuel filter housing).
Yes I’m inept but I feel there’s something simple I’m missing?

 

[locklaw]

So what do people do when changing out the fuel pump on an older 40?
I can’t get the barbed fitting out of the new fuel pump and I can’t get the fittings off my old (now too short) fuel line.
I also can’t find m9 barbed fittings local either (for the fuel filter housing).
Yes I’m inept but I feel there’s something simple I’m missing?

I found with luck that a brass gas (as in LPG, not gasoline) barbed fitting I had lying around fitted beautifully. I have yet to confirm sizing and thread pitch.

Otherwise, rather look for a female barbed fitting that screws over the male portion or worst case, a male barbed fitting that goes into the end of the plastic line with a short piece of rubber line.

Last option is a cut off from an OE steel line to the carburetor over which you clamp a rubber line to the pump

 

[firemanj92]

So what do people do when changing out the fuel pump on an older 40?
I can’t get the barbed fitting out of the new fuel pump and I can’t get the fittings off my old (now too short) fuel line.
I also can’t find m9 barbed fittings local either (for the fuel filter housing).
Yes I’m inept but I feel there’s something simple I’m missing?

The fuel pump fitting will come out, it's in there with hydraulic thread locker so it's in there nice and tight-may need a little heat to loosen the thread locker. It's a BSPT fitting. Here is a link from Sor.com for reference (at bottom of page) to the fitting.

Also shoot me your address, I have a 1/8 BSPT (tapered thread) to 5/16 barbed fitting I can send you for 8mm standard rubber fuel hose. BST thread will work but you need thread sealant/locker.

Unless you want to drive down to the East Bay? BTW, every one is out of the barbed fitting (for awhile) including Amazon, Ebay, McMaster

sor.com/cat028.sor

 

[6f40j9]

It’s been a rough month. We lost our son on the 6th and buried him today.
I’ve been trying to get back on the 40 to take my mind off things.
I’ve gotten a lot of help from you guys and really appreciate it.
I’m so close-it runs sort of, as soon as I pinch the brake line off and install the short section of fuel line, I’m going to drive it around the block for the first time since last May. Incidentally, he was the last one to ride in it with me before I tore it down for the head gasket.

 

[RodrigzCrzr]

My deepest sympathy to you and your family.
Great job on the rig!

 

[liven the life]

Just read through your build thread....I am truly sorry for your loss. Hang in there and keep wrenching, may that memory bring a smile to your face every day you get behind that cruiser's wheel.

 

[mrboatman]

Sorry to read about your son. He will always be with you and riding in the 40 with you on your next ride around the block.

 

[suzuguru]

Very sorry to hear of the loss of your son. I will keep you and your family in my thoughts and prayers.

Your FJ is looking great. I'm sure you will think of him every time you get in it. That's a good thing. I lost my dad 5 years ago, and It helps me to do the things I know he loved doing. Hang in there!

 

[6f40j9]

Fuel pump in, fuel filter in, fuel line in (thanks @firemanj92 !), still nothing. After ~30 seconds off and on of cranking, the filter bowl is only ~1/2 full. I don’t know if this is normal.
I’m out of gas in the can to pour in the carburetor and I don’t want to keep using starting fluid.

 

[suzuguru]

Could it be vapor locked?

 

[graham5david]

My 69 was acting the same way. Turned out to be a pin hole in the in tank fuel line pick up so it would suck air into the fuel line.

 

[6f40j9]

Could it be vapor locked?

Not sure. I don’t even know how I would check.

 

[6f40j9]

My 69 was acting the same way. Turned out to be a pin hole in the in tank fuel line pick up so it would suck air into the fuel line.

Hmm. How’d you figure that out?

 

[majdomo]

I'm so sorry to hear about your son, hoping you do find some measure of comfort in keeping busy on your project in his memory.

One idea is to isolate it between the tank and the filter / pump by checking to see if you can get it running out of a gas can instead of the tank. Dunk the end of the line that leads into the fuel filter into a gas can and turn 'er over, see if you get the same results. Keep that battery charged too with all that cranking.

 

[pb4ugo]

I'm pretty sure the sedement bowl should be full.

 

[graham5david]

Hmm. How’d you figure that out?

Never really visually confirmed it. But my tank was original and I was getting sediment in and air in the filter. I pulled the tank and used POR 15 tank cleaner and sealer (one of those restore kits). When I reinstalled it I was stull getting air when the tank was 3/4 or lower. I checked and triple checked every connection for poor seal because air kept getting in the line. Finally I replaced the tank with a plastic one. Problem solved. My assumption was a hole in the pick up tube. After all that I bought a rear under tub plastic tank from Downey which is what I should have done from the start.

 

[suzuguru]

Not sure. I don’t even know how I would check.

loosen a line somewhere not far before the carburetor so it can expel any air that may be trapped. You can have someone turn it over while you watch that fitting. Once there's no air coming out, only fuel, then re-tighten the fitting.

 

[6f40j9]

So, got the fuel issue figured out, got it running. Then the clutch was giving me issues. I had changed the master and the slave but hadn’t adjusted the rod on the master correctly. Fixed that, voila, it moves! I have no brakes due to a leak but I couldn’t help but turn it around and back it into the spot it has been sitting in for 16 months.
Carb leaks, thermostat housing leaks, no brakes, but it runs again, for now.

 

[majdomo]

So, got the fuel issue figured out, got it running. Then the clutch was giving me issues. I had changed the master and the slave but hadn’t adjusted the rod on the master correctly. Fixed that, voila, it moves! I have no brakes due to a leak but I couldn’t help but turn it around and back it into the spot it has been sitting in for 16 months.
Carb leaks, thermostat housing leaks, no brakes, but it runs again, for now

great to hear, these are comparatively easy fixes. one at a time.