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There is no consensus on things like that. The goal of this thread is actual sales numbers. People are welcome to speculate and give their own market analysis, but typically that is little more than blowing smoke.
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From the below, you might believe there's a $5K LX discount (looking at the average selling prices), but that's not apples to apples metric. The range of transaction prices for Land Cruiser is nearly twice as broad as the LX transaction price range. Unfortunately, Classic.com (which another mudder turned me onto) doesn't offer a market value for the LX. Having said that, LXs don't have any trouble selling as they have the same sell through as Land Cruiser (82%) which would imply they have similar desirability. For a bit of trivia, when new, the 80 outsold the LX 2:1, but again, not apples to apples as the dealer network was much larger for Toyota v Lexus (still is).
I paid $3000 in March 2019 for my 93. Cloth interior, no roof rack, 283,000 miles, zero rust.
I have not really looked hard at the market, but do look once in awhile.
IMOP there are deals to be got out there. 3X locked means nothing to me. For me rust is the most critical thing.
I also feel the 93/94 curvy dash models will go up in value.
I have not really looked hard at the market, but do look once in awhile.
IMOP there are deals to be got out there. 3X locked means nothing to me. For me rust is the most critical thing.
I also feel the 93/94 curvy dash models will go up in value.
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It was a beaut. I was outbid at the last minute, and just couldn’t bring myself to go any higher.
Well that's hard, as these things are worth what someone is willing to pay. Personally the LX is growing on me and that's what I want to build next.
Just from chatting with collectors and enthusiasts, the cladding/holes from removing is not a popular feature. But mainly its just a rebadged Land Cruiser.
Having been in a few situations, the highest offer for a LX450 I have seen was 65K for a 20k original miles 1 owner dime piece.
On the flip side if you had a Land Cruiser with the same provenance I 'd guess it be a 100K sale.
Again really it's worth what some one will pay. I see tossed around cruisers with no baselining and rust going on BAT for 20-40K, I'll say my 3 owner w/ 160K that's Black on Oak w/ every other option (Including Lockers) and a roof rack delete just might be worth 65K with all the mods and baseline. But again not every one is gonna throw all OEM part and do a nut and bolt.
Wana build an LX next if I find the right one. Doing a Slee'd out build on my 96 LC, however I have 96/97 LX Delta build in my head....
To get the the point 25% plus/minus
Really? The data above doesn't seem to support that.
I notice a lot of price drops at the moment - especially in the '93 & '94's. The listed price is one thing but finding out what they sold for is tougher but it is the data point that matters. Of the ones that I have tracked 60% have had a price drop and the average days listed is 23 days. I wonder if the price has peaked for these model years.
To make ev1 jealous I lucked upon a rust free texas 3x locked...for $1900. I just had to install the included engine
Got mine literally a month prior to the covid price hike for 3800. 93', not triple locked 190k miles. Thank Goodness
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No Reserve: 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser FZJ80
Bid for the chance to own a No Reserve: 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser FZJ80 at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #44,328.
This sold for $14,250 today not including the 5% buyers premium. The truck had rust on the body and the undercarriage was pretty nasty. It’s been a lifelong Midwest truck. 112k miles and 3x locked.
No Reserve: 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser FZJ80
Bid for the chance to own a No Reserve: 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser FZJ80 at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #44,328.bringatrailer.com
This sold for $14,250 today not including the 5% buyers premium. The truck had rust on the body and the undercarriage was pretty nasty. It’s been a lifelong Midwest truck. 112k miles and 3x locked.
Wow. That is more than I anticipated that one going for given the rust. So what's the thinking on how much the rust damage will cost to fix? Not to mention getting it baselined.
My fj80 is a special model...it uses power steering fluid as a rust inhibitor. I believe there are only a few of these around
I would take BAT purchases not 100% accurate. ANYONE can make a bid on a truck with a credit card. I have noticed that some winners of auctions do not go through with the purchase for whatever reason. Some have to get financing after the fact and getting financing on a 20k truck that is worth $6k on KBB. No bank will give you financing on those terms. I have witnessed this a few times through the comments in the sale of the vehicle. Seller said himself in the comments that buyer backed out for one action I was following. So I am not making this stuff up.
So BAT is not an accurate representation of an actual sale IMO. You never know what is going on behind the scenes.
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On the other hand, this one didn't even make the reserve price. I had the dude email me some photos of the Chassis/frame and interior. Interior was above average and frame was OK. I spoke to the guy and he wanted $10k. That might work for someone...
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I have sold multiple cars on bat and have never had someone need financing after winning an auction. It’s pretty ridiculous for you to say that because you’ve seen someone back out of a deal before, all other info from bat as a sales database should be disregarded. Like it or not, bat is probably one of the most comprehensive sales databases that you can find for any collectible vehicle.
You might had a good experience with BAT but I am just saying not 100% of buyers go through with the sale. And some buyers definitely do get financing.
No Reserve: Modified 1997 Lexus LX450
Bid for the chance to own a No Reserve: Modified 1997 Lexus LX450 at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #43,976.
I emailed him after the auction ended and to contact me if the buyer falls through. He emailed me saying buyer is waiting on financing and he will contact me if for whatever reason the sale falls through (no contact yet) so I am assuming everything smoothly. People definitely do get financing.
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Bought a late 1993 Dark Emerald Pearl 250k miles for $5k in December 2020. No rust, not 3x locked, bad paint on hood and flairs, decent interior, roof rack. Every major fix except for head gasket done.
Biggest issues with it were that PO removed from seat carpet and the seats were beginning to crack and rip. Few minor issues but nothing major. FWIW while searching the majority of 80 series in my area were between 8-14k with over 200k miles and same condition as mine.
Biggest issues with it were that PO removed from seat carpet and the seats were beginning to crack and rip. Few minor issues but nothing major. FWIW while searching the majority of 80 series in my area were between 8-14k with over 200k miles and same condition as mine.
Do you know the ratio of closed auctions versus non-sales on BaT? I'm guessing that with 44K closed auctions and counting BaT has a pretty reliable system, but if you have data suggesting otherwise please share.
Also, there are several classic car financing options through Suntrust and Woodside that folks use; even Hagerty's has lenders they recommend so I'm not sure how to interpret your comments regarding the lack of financing options for "classic" vehicles?