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Quick little detour from the fun part of the build and adventures. I noticed about 45 seconds after a cold start, there was a very loud intermittent ticking sound that lasted about 3 minutes then stopped. After lots of research, mostly on the Tundra forums, I found it was likely the left hand side timing chain tensioner. The good news is the part is pretty cheap - the bad news is the labor is very expensive, and there are a lot of "while you're in there" parts to change. I purchased a third party warranty when I first acquired the vehicle, but like most aftermarket warranties the fine print is a huge buzzkill. It ended up only covering less than half the total cost of the repair, but it was better than nothing I suppose. My share of the cost plus the cost of the warranty ended up being nearly what the total repair bill was, so the way I looked at it was any additional repairs covered by the warranty would pay for the warranty. That logic sounded great until the next repair occurred, and of course the fine print got me yet again. I'll share more about that repair along with the story of what happened.

Here is a video of the sound the engine would make upon startup:



Also here is a list of all the parts that were replaced along with list prices and how much labor was. Not a cheap repair, but in the five 200s I've owned, this is the only one that required the service.

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Man that is dissappointing. Is the truck back to 100%? No more issues?
 
Man that is dissappointing. Is the truck back to 100%? No more issues?

When I got it back, I honestly couldn't believe how quiet and smooth it ran. I was skeptical the work would be done properly because in theory they don't see many 200s, but the reality is this failure is so common on the Tundras and Sequoias they know exactly what they're doing. The truck has run exceptionally well under all circumstances including some long distance overlanding.

That actually leads to the other mechanical issue I experienced. I've seen may have had to replace the evap canister, but I've never had an issue until I did a ~175 mile off road trip from Colorado into Utah fully loaded with 4 adults (5 packed in for stretches) and ~400 pounds of gear and front/rear ac blasting the whole time. A few days after the trip, I got my first CEL which was the evap canister. And of course, the warranty explicitly did not cover emissions equipment, so I paid about $1k installed at the dealer to get it fixed. It's annoying, but neither this nor the timing chain tensioner issues were things that would strand someone or even affect performance.

Here's a pic from that trip (and a hint on why it's taken so long to update this thread)

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When I got it back, I honestly couldn't believe how quiet and smooth it ran. I was skeptical the work would be done properly because in theory they don't see many 200s, but the reality is this failure is so common on the Tundras and Sequoias they know exactly what they're doing. The truck has run exceptionally well under all circumstances including some long distance overlanding.

That actually leads to the other mechanical issue I experienced. I've seen may have had to replace the evap canister, but I've never had an issue until I did a ~175 mile off road trip from Colorado into Utah fully loaded with 4 adults (5 packed in for stretches) and ~400 pounds of gear and front/rear ac blasting the whole time. A few days after the trip, I got my first CEL which was the evap canister. And of course, the warranty explicitly did not cover emissions equipment, so I paid about $1k installed at the dealer to get it fixed. It's annoying, but neither this nor the timing chain tensioner issues were things that would strand someone or even affect performance.

Here's a pic from that trip (and a hint on why it's taken so long to update this thread)

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The Rivians are the reason it took so long to update I'm guess? Damn 'em all...
 
I have a question about the 285/75r17 fit - does it fit in the spare tire well under the truck?
Yes, it fits. One of the largest tires you can fit there.
 
Quick little detour from the fun part of the build and adventures. I noticed about 45 seconds after a cold start, there was a very loud intermittent ticking sound that lasted about 3 minutes then stopped. After lots of research, mostly on the Tundra forums, I found it was likely the left hand side timing chain tensioner. The good news is the part is pretty cheap - the bad news is the labor is very expensive, and there are a lot of "while you're in there" parts to change. I purchased a third party warranty when I first acquired the vehicle, but like most aftermarket warranties the fine print is a huge buzzkill. It ended up only covering less than half the total cost of the repair, but it was better than nothing I suppose. My share of the cost plus the cost of the warranty ended up being nearly what the total repair bill was, so the way I looked at it was any additional repairs covered by the warranty would pay for the warranty. That logic sounded great until the next repair occurred, and of course the fine print got me yet again. I'll share more about that repair along with the story of what happened.

Here is a video of the sound the engine would make upon startup:



Also here is a list of all the parts that were replaced along with list prices and how much labor was. Not a cheap repair, but in the five 200s I've owned, this is the only one that required the service.

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Where did you get this done. Not a bad deal. I’m dealing with the same issue on my 2013 it’s got 267k on it and the noise came on suddenly and strong. My mechanic wants to do a whole overhaul so I’ve been sourcing my parts from Melling as well as oem Toyota, it’s the labor cost that gets you since it’s so damn involved. But that quote for labor and parts is astonishingly good if it’s from a stealership
 
Where did you get this done. Not a bad deal. I’m dealing with the same issue on my 2013 it’s got 267k on it and the noise came on suddenly and strong. My mechanic wants to do a whole overhaul so I’ve been sourcing my parts from Melling as well as oem Toyota, it’s the labor cost that gets you since it’s so damn involved. But that quote for labor and parts is astonishingly good if it’s from a stealership

I had it done at Stevinson Toyota West, and I had to negotiate the parts price down because initially they were inexplicably charging 120% of MSRP down the line. I ended up getting a better deal than expected, and keep in mind this was 4 years ago when labor prices were also materially lower.
 
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