Local Diesel Prices

[crushers]

land more expensive than the states?
wages better here than in the states for the same jobs?

cost of business is more expensive cause too many hands in the pot when it comes to tax.
the government makes it more expensive to do business here, to live here.
i agree the purchasing population is smaller here but that doesn't explain why you can buy a Canadian made product in the states cheaper than you can buy it here.

big business, the government and the Queen makes it expensive and hard to work here.

i love the country, i like my fellow canucks to a degree, i HATE what the government has done to it.

curious, if the queen doesn't rule here why does her appointed "yes man" have to allow who gets into cabinet and who doesn't. it doesn't matter who gets voted in, if he doesn't sign, that person is not allowed in cabinet.

I hate paying more for stuff than in the states just as much as the next guy. But, there are some facts that people should consider before we blame the crown, the gov, or the business owner.

Land is a hell of a lot more expensive in this country, in general. Wages are a hell of a lot higher in this country, in general. Other costs of doing business are higher in this country, in general. The population is much lower and therefor the purchasing power of business is much lower.

Does this all account for double the price, or worse, when we buy stuff? I don't know. But I do know that we shouldn't expect Wayne or VT to cut their wages in half because some guy across the border will do whatever job for that price. Hell, Jose in Mexico can do it a lot cheaper than that.

I'm not knocking you guys but just giving some food for thought. We've got it pretty damn good in this country even if it does cost more.

 

[markthemenace]

I dunno Kim. I've already lost two designers (3D guys) to US companies that pay almost DOUBLE what we were paying them here!!! We've got one really good guy here now, but he's being wooed by his ex-employers in Dubai with TRIPLE the salary (and of course a fifth of the living costs). Only reason he's thinking about not going there is the heat.

By and large I think Canada is in the quandary its in now because of our very large civil service. Its become quite ridiculous now with the three expensive layers of govt, each vying for a tax dollar that's not getting very much larger. Politicians are one thing, but when one totals up the cost of the civil service here, boy, I am shocked at it sometimes!

One of my colleagues used to work in the US before he moved to Canada. He tells me that the one thing you see a huge difference of between the two is the size and cost of the civil service. In the US, he noted that the buildings and equipment were, by and large, utilitarian. Whereas in Canada, he noticed that its always new (and constantly renewed) and shiny.

And whilst the US has its share of money-sucking govt entities, we have the huge and unaccountable bureaucracies founded on nothing more than expensive paper-shuffling such as the Long Gun Registry. If you're a gun-owner, you'll have first-hand knowledge of the immense waste of money that is.

So, from what I can see, it all adds up to a more expensive place to do business. It STILL doesn't explain why things are sometimes ridiculously priced.

 

[crushers]

one of the problems is when the government gives out money to an organization's budget they need to spend that budget and then request more. the next year it is the same, spend the old budget and request more (whether you really need it or not).

at least that is what was told to me by some of my customers over the years.

a more cost effective way is to reward companies that save on the budget but not to punish them if there is an unexpected need. if you can make your trucks last 8 years instead of 4 then, in the long run, you should be saving substanial expenses.

does a company need to install all new computors every year or do they just need new software?

it would be nice to see some common sense when it comes to government spending ... ??

 

[ForealBoreal]

It is a use it or lose it kinda thing for many groups...
Sad and stupid.

 

[VTCDN]

Local Island "Dr James Lunney " Bone cracker MP (Master Phony ) , Has the highest air travel in Canada.

He fly's his wife with him , 750.00 K last year.. just for air travel.. to the Ottawa stew pot.

Out Of Control !!!

Explain that to the folks .. Rather than children playing silly smear s***e .. getting over 200g a year for lip service.

You know It's now costing to get you money out of your RRSP , plus taxes due ,, They have changed their rules again..
No wonder the contributions were way down , beside most haven't got the coin anymore. Inflation @ 6% interest @ 2%


VT

Edit Add

And Since were on about RIP-OFF Prices , Canada Post is Outrageous stupid pricing.
I had 5 flashlights to be shipped from Vancouver island to the furthest spot of Nova Scotia (blue nose gents ) , The ROO (Republic of Ontario ) ..
Each one was going to cost 12.00 alberta -18$ to Nova being the most.. the lights came from china for 15.00 USD Each delivered .
I shipped them from USA using USPS and filled out customs forms on each one . Cost was 3.30-3.81 to Nova Scotia .
They were a treat for those who go beyond in helping in the trade.

No wonder why many don't want to deal with Canada.
VT

 

[canucksafari]

Roger that
If fuel gets crazy like they expect this summer and straight veggy is cheaper I wil l be running that

It is getting close to Costco Canola prices. If diesel prices stays like this or go higher, it sure doesn't make sense to be pay $$$ for fuel snake oil or 2 stroke for lube.

 

[BryGgi]

Here in Finland diesel oil pays now 1,65€/liter. so its 9.57dollars/gallon, cheap as hell

 

[Ron R]

At our local station (unbranded) it has been hovering around 1.42 euro per liter for the last few weeks.
In US dollars that's around 1.90 a liter or 7.15 a gallon.
So one tankfill (around 70 liters/18.5 Gls) is about 135 USD.
If I go to a branded (Shell, BP) it's around 1.51 euro (2.00 USD) per liter or 7,55 USD a Gallon.
This is for regular. If you want V-power fuel it's even more expensive.

 

[canucksafari]

$1.31.9/L at Superstore Abbotsford last night.

 

[Tapage]

Going 3.98 USD/Gal This Weekend ..

 

[Ron R]

BTW, do you guys pay 'roadtaxes' or 'ownershiptaxes' as we call it over here?
Just because you own a rig you have to pay an annual tax. The amount of money involved is related to the weight of the car, the kind of fuel (diesel/gas) and for what it's used (company or privately)
For my privately owned cruiser it's 1608 euros or about 2140 USD a year.
About half (51%) of what I pay for fuel are taxes as well, so at roughly USD 1.90/liter, 95 cts is taxes.
My annual fuel consumption is around 1400 liters and that's about 1330 USD taxmoney. Annual taxes total: 3470 USD.
And then I'm not taking into account the taxes related to buying spareparts or labor due to repair (19% of the ticket).
So yes, it's expensive to drive a cruiser.....and not just because the oil companies are asking insane money for their fuel...

 

[kim]

Holy hen****!

I will think of you the next time I consider complaining about taxes.

No, we don't have an ownership tax. Geez, 2000 dollars a year is outrageous! Is that for all vehicles you own or only the ones licensed for the road?

Our fuel here in Canada is taxed but it is nowhere near 95 cents/L. I think it is more like 60 cents per litre.

BTW, do you guys pay 'roadtaxes' or 'ownershiptaxes' as we call it over here?
Just because you own a rig you have to pay an annual tax. The amount of money involved is related to the weight of the car, the kind of fuel (diesel/gas) and for what it's used (company or privately)
For my privately owned cruiser it's 1608 euros or about 2140 USD a year.
About half (51%) of what I pay for fuel are taxes as well, so at roughly USD 1.90/liter, 95 cts is taxes.
My annual fuel consumption is around 1400 liters and that's about 1330 USD taxmoney. Annual taxes total: 3470 USD.
And then I'm not taking into account the taxes related to buying spareparts or labor due to repair (19% of the ticket).
So yes, it's expensive to drive a cruiser.....and not just because the oil companies are asking insane money for their fuel...

 

[Tapage]

BTW, do you guys pay 'roadtaxes' or 'ownershiptaxes' as we call it over here?
Just because you own a rig you have to pay an annual tax. The amount of money involved is related to the weight of the car, the kind of fuel (diesel/gas) and for what it's used (company or privately)
For my privately owned cruiser it's 1608 euros or about 2140 USD a year.

we do .. but damn .. not even close .. ! just couple of bucks per year it's all we have .. but well that it's related to local economy salaries and where end your taxes .. mines mostly end in the pocket of some of the politicians in charge at the moment ..

 

[Ron R]

Holy hen****!

I will think of you the next time I consider complaining about taxes.

No, we don't have an ownership tax. Geez, 2000 dollars a year is outrageous! Is that for all vehicles you own or only the ones licensed for the road?

Our fuel here in Canada is taxed but it is nowhere near 95 cents/L. I think it is more like 60 cents per litre.

This is just for the cruiser. Want to have a laugh?
For the wives Nissan Micra it's much less. This because the weight of that small car is only about 1/3 of the cruiser and it's a gasser. The ownership tax for that rig is about 400 Euros or 540 USD a year. But then.....
The only way you can get rid of that tax for a car you own is by suspension (?) in other words you pay a fee to get the rig temporarely banned from road use. You have to store the rig on private property and it may not be used outside that property.
Max time you can have it suspended is 6 months (I think) then you have to pay again to keep it suspended.
Fueltaxes on gas is about 60% and price per liter at this moment is around 1.82 euros (or 2.40 USD) per liter, equals 9,08 USD/Gallon. So tax per liter is 1.44 USD or per gallon 5.44 USD.
Annual fuelconsumption for that car is about 900 liters (14000 kms and average of 15 kms to the liter) and therefore total of taxes for that rig is about 1830 USD

 

[Wheelingnoob]

This is just for the cruiser. Want to have a laugh?
For the wives Nissan Micra it's much less. This because the weight of that small car is only about 1/3 of the cruiser and it's a gasser. The ownership tax for that rig is about 400 Euros or 540 USD a year. But then.....
The only way you can get rid of that tax for a car you own is by suspension (?) in other words you pay a fee to get the rig temporarely banned from road use. You have to store the rig on private property and it may not be used outside that property.
Max time you can have it suspended is 6 months (I think) then you have to pay again to keep it suspended.
Fueltaxes on gas is about 60% and price per liter at this moment is around 1.82 euros (or 2.40 USD) per liter, equals 9,08 USD/Gallon. So tax per liter is 1.44 USD or per gallon 5.44 USD.
Annual fuelconsumption for that car is about 900 liters (14000 kms and average of 15 kms to the liter) and therefore total of taxes for that rig is about 1830 USD

I would own a pedal bike, that's insane!

 

[Ron R]

I would own a pedal bike, that's insane!

I do have a pedal bike...it's not taxed.
But my Motorbike is...that's only about 80 USD per year.
Hmmm, adding it all together it's 2750 USD per year I think, just to own three vehicles.

 

[kim]

I have like 10 vehicles...That would be like a million euro's a year in tax.

I think I will stay in Canada.

 

[crushers]

and that is the goal, to keep the owning of vehicles restricted to those rich enough to pay the tax ...

 

[Ron R]

and that is the goal, to keep the owning of vehicles restricted to those rich enough to pay the tax ...

Or squize more money out of people....when I bought the cruiser the ownershiptax was about.....300 Euros (~~400USD!!) a year. This because the rig had a so called "grey License". According the tax laws at that moment the rig had to comply to certain rules (f.i. inner dimensions of the cargo area) to be regarded as a commercial rig even if it was privately owned. A few years later this was dropped. Every ''grey Licensed' rig, owned by a private person was regarded not being a commercial rig anymore. Thousands of vehicles owned by private persons lost a lot of their value because they were not wanted anymore. Lots of people could not afford the huge (5x) rise in tax.

But I love my cruiser and by doing the maintenance as much as I can by myself, I'm just able to keep it going.

I'm member of a group of persons, hit by this change in taxlaw, and we have filed a lawsuit (?) agains the Dutch Government in this regard. At the moment it's handled by the European Court of Justice. We are hoping for a verdict saying this change in law was unlawfull, but it still can take some time and the outcome is unsure.

 

[VTCDN]

Ron R
This Tax rate increase happen after 2008 , or in the recovery of your country's economy ?

I bet they lost a bundle investing in the wall street housing bumble.

In North America , we just had a visitor asking for backing & lives..
He stopped in at Canada first , then off to visit USA , bet he was told to wait..
The 2012 coin toss is not close enough.
When the go ahead is given , fuel prices will skyrocket. Double to start with.(link is one perspective , but likely).

Gallon UK = 4.54L
Gallon US = 3.78L

Just so you know Ron , all US is smaller , just looks larger in number value.

VT

Lets Hope all this is just CRAP & BS , and keep our Serving safe and home doing our own country's home work.

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