HELP PLEASE! I'm stuck in the wilderness with a dead fxj80 (1 Viewer)

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Starter motor gets ground from the block/bellhousing.

Excellent point. I suppose if it is cranking the block has ground.

Well scratch that one off the list, but it still smells of a bad ground somewhere.
 
That deceleration sensor is for the ABS.

So this started after the bump, engine won't restart. Reminds me of one thing in othe cars, same symptoms. When hitting the rumble strips in certain racetracks, the vibration will loosen up relays, dead car in middle of a track. Did you make sue all relays are seated properly? Just a hunch.
 
Does the OP know about the EFI fuse in the fuse box under the hood? I read through quickly this and it was not clear that this was checked. Same with checking the relays there.

The fuel pump wire can chafe inside the tank and blow this fuse leaving the truck in-op.
 
Excellent point. I suppose if it is cranking the block has ground.

Well scratch that one off the list, but it still smells of a bad ground somewhere.

I originally mentioned checking the grounds. I have known Several vehicles that lost a single ground in the wiring and either had running issues or wouldn't start at all. Most sensors and control units have seperate closer grounds built into the harness because they are incapable of pulling a good enough ground without having them. Some things can pull a ground from elsewhere, but think about it this way guys, if it didn't need all the different engine to body grounds and body grounds throughout the vehicles wiring, then why are they there? Because Toyota likes spending money needlessly on adding unneeded wires? Not likely. I had an 03 3.5l Altima die coming out of a crappy parking lot. Pushed it back into the parking lot and ended up having to have it towed home. Took me a week to find the problem, a braided ground strap win a push on style plug had pulled free from the bottom front of the engine. It would crank but not fire. Had fuel but no injector pulse and no spark. All because of one ground strap. Had a Honda Civic my buddy and I did a motor swap on, 85 civic 89 integra engine etc.. He kept getting hellacious backfire and blew his muffler up. He couldnt figure out what was going on, we chased the whole harness and attached 2 ground wires built into the harness by the passenger front seat he had left unattached. Fixed the issue. I can go on about customer cars etc.. We had ground related issues with. Point is, a starter gets its ground from the block doesn't mean sh!t in the scheme of fuel Injected engines. Almost all grounds have to be present for proper function, it's the way they were designed.
 
I'm sure AT&T. It's the only one that ever works in the boonies for me! Though I hate them with a passion.
 
I'm sure AT&T. It's the only one that ever works in the boonies for me! Though I hate them with a passion.


Here in California the best coverage in middle of now where has always been with Verizon. I had 4 bar LTE camping at middle of no where.
 
Death Valley is interesting regarding cellular coverage. For years, there was basically none. A few select areas had marginal Verizon coverage but that was it. Most recently, large areas of the park have decent cell coverage. Through ATT. I'm not sure I'm happy about it.

I do agree that the original poster should just tow his truck out to the road, and call AAA or a tow service. His problem will need to be slowly evaluated in the driveway, not out in the wild.
 
my first thought was cell phone coverage as well. when i went last year, i had 0 signal. none. not even a text could get out.
 
This might end with a working truck and a skeleton.
 
Here is what I've experienced a year ago in my 80 when it unexpectedly died while driving. Same symptoms no spark, crank/cam sensor code. After much time troubleshooting PCM, grounds, wiring it was a broken intake camshaft! Broke after the #1 cylinder so the distributer still rotated. 30 min to pull valve cover. About 2hr. To change cam. You can do it on the trail if needed and that's the problem. Hardest part is getting the parts. Good luck. Hope this helps in some way.


...via IH8MUD app
 
Any luck out there in DV? Do we still need to make a road trip out of it?

No luck. Ended up getting towed 190 miles home yesterday evening.

That deceleration sensor is for the ABS.

So this started after the bump, engine won't restart. Reminds me of one thing in othe cars, same symptoms. When hitting the rumble strips in certain racetracks, the vibration will loosen up relays, dead car in middle of a track. Did you make sue all relays are seated properly? Just a hunch.

We pulled and visually checked all fuses. We tested the relays and they all work.

i didnt read all 7 pages but is guy safe or no?

Home Safe! Bummed, but safe. Thank you all for your concern.

Does the OP know about the EFI fuse in the fuse box under the hood? I read through quickly this and it was not clear that this was checked. Same with checking the relays there.

The fuel pump wire can chafe inside the tank and blow this fuse leaving the truck in-op.

EFI fuse is working per our field test.

I'd like to know what carrier he is using to get cell/data in PV.

ATT gets service north of the Panamint Valley Rd, Trona Wildrose Rd Intersection. Verizon has nothing in the entire Panamint Valley. Verizon has coverage in Trona and spotty coverage all the way into Ridgecrest. ATT has nothing in Trona.

I am not familiar with the area you are at, but for all the effort of diag in the woods, would it be easier to just pull the rig back to civilization? If you have no spark, I imagine a bad crank sensor would keep the vehicle from getting spark.

Got it pulled home yesterday. We tested the crank position sensor and it tested ok per the FSM

Maybe OP fixed the problem and is enjoying the solitude and lack of service DV has to offer.

Don't I wish. However, I am grateful for a number of things that went well. We broke down at an excellent area to camp and for the kids to play. Great friends who helped me trouble shoot actively for more than 12 hours, cooked dinner, breakfast and lunch while I was wrenching, and kept an eye on my boys as I traveled back and forth to cell reception and Ridgecrest for parts. The weather was perfect... reasonable temperature, little wind, beautiful scenery and skies. Friendly passers by now and again. Safe 190 mile tow home covered by AAA. Helpful, friendly tow truck driver. And a HUGE thanks to IH8MUD for your help, concern and willingness to do virtually anything to help. Thank you guys!
 
That's why it pays to be nice to other folks. We are all gonna need some help some time. Glad you got home safe.

I left two sleds with an active military member on leave the other night who was out with three daughters in the snow, no sleds and told him where I lived so he could return them. My young son was beside himself. I told him that there are good people and bad people in the world, the trick is to learn the difference. The sleds were on the porch the next morning.

I help the old guys in McDonalds and Hardees with their trays and stuff. I'll be there soon enough and hope someone does the same for me.

'80's folks are some of the best people in the world. We are privileged to be a part of this small community. I don't have much, but I'll share what I have, mind and material.
 
Thanks for the info. Were you on "closed to through traffic" Wildrose, lol. Last October, if I had cell (or a sat phone) we could have saved this motorcyclist 45 minutes of laying in the dirt.......dirt secton of PV Rd.

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