Who's going to design this tee?DanKunz said:
Bought an LX470
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FMKV said:I'm happy everything is working out for you. But The only point I'm trying to make is that the company should be upfront with where its made. No where on the web page I seen does it say made in anywhere . Only designed by or engineered by. Just make it easy for people to decide whether they want to pay their hard earned money on a product that is made by underpaid workers or from companies who try to pay their employees a descent wage to live off of. I'm happy your satisfied with your purchase. Didn't mean to step on anyone's feet here or to offend. All I asked was a simple Question.
You realize the computer or phone you typed that post on was most likely made in china, right?
Typos sent from my HTC EVO using the IH8MUD app...
That goes with out saying , but on the products were you can have a choice wouldn't you like to be able to make it without having to guess were its from?
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In our current Global economy it doesn't honestly matter to me where products are "made" as long as they perform.
For what it's worth ask ARB where there springs are made.
I have several Ironman products on my Hundy and have been happy and impressed with everything I've purchased from them. I did my research prior to purchasing anything from Ironman including scowering the Aussie forums and decided to take the path less traveled try some of their equipment. I've seen more and more people purchasing their products over the past year and think people are foolish if they don't look at all alternatives on the market. I am yet to see a negative review from anyone that has actually purchased Ironman stuff. Most of the hater crowd are people that don't actually own or have tested, ridden or put their hands on any of this stuff.
If an experienced vendor such as ACC which deals with Toyota 4WD customization on all Toyota platforms chimes in and says another vendors product is quality and is impressed then it should be regarded as expert advice. These guys deal with Toyota aftermarket vendor products all the time and have for years. Instead of playing armchair quarterback get outside and test some of these products out instead of being a hater hiding behind a PC and screen name wheeling in virtual world...
Oh yeah... Heather the LX is looking good! Staying tuned to your build...
If an experienced vendor such as ACC which deals with Toyota 4WD customization on all Toyota platforms chimes in and says another vendors product is quality and is impressed then it should be regarded as expert advice. These guys deal with Toyota aftermarket vendor products all the time and have for years. Instead of playing armchair quarterback get outside and test some of these products out instead of being a hater hiding behind a PC and screen name wheeling in virtual world...
Oh yeah... Heather the LX is looking good! Staying tuned to your build...
yep....Toyota Camry is more MADE IN AMERICA than a Ford Fusion....and made in America can mean ASSEMBLED in America with global economy with all the parts coming from China, Korea, India or Mexico.
I am much more concerned with quality, reliability, workmanship and cost ratio rather than if it is made in California, Vermont, Canada, or Taiwan.
I am much more concerned with quality, reliability, workmanship and cost ratio rather than if it is made in California, Vermont, Canada, or Taiwan.
FWIW, I think I'm ordering IM springs and shocks. I've been scouring the web and I've heard alot of good things mixed with a few bad things. The bad seems to come from people with some sort of bias against the brand...not actual poor performance.
)... but only for the Chinese market. I'd love to see one up close. Hard to find online amongst all the fake LC's though.
I know it is off topic, but we have the Chinese cars over here. 
The Great Wall, Geely to name two.
Cheap and nasty.
Anyway, I must see I like the LX470, if I could start it again.
Measured the voltage over the poles yesterday after replacing the 140 Amp fuse: 7.4V.
It is on the charger now.
The Great Wall, Geely to name two.
Cheap and nasty.
Anyway, I must see I like the LX470, if I could start it again.
Measured the voltage over the poles yesterday after replacing the 140 Amp fuse: 7.4V.
It is on the charger now.
I just had my Ironman combo bar installed on Friday. No cutting the frame horns, a seperate cradle for the winch and built in Hi-Lift lifting locations. It is clearly not a copy of the ARB. Similar yes, a direct copy, NO. I am happy enough with the bumper that when my AHC finally dies, I will put an Ironman suspension kit on my 100. Funny thing is, the bar install went perfect, but the Warn VR 12,000 winch will power in and not out, so I need to call Warn tomorrow AM and have them send me a new solenoid.
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Any pics of the bar?
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I was at ACC when they installed K9crazy's bumper and winch. For that style "bull" bumper, it appears to me to be very well designed with the installer in mind and with the end-user in mind. Also in attendance was Eli Spigler, the US rep for Ironman sales in the US and owner of Camel 4x4. He's a modest fellow from Oz and has worked in the Ironman plant. He explained to me that they do all their own R&D in house and they manufacture just about every part of their suspension kits, winches and bumpers from one end of the factory to the other. The only parts he recalls being sourced were bearings and seals (likely Japan). He said a fair bulk of their business "back home" included custom suspension for military/industrial applications, which is why their R&D is so robust. But I agree with Michael too, politics aside, it doesn't really matter where a part is made - if it is designed and tested to perform as advertised. FMKV: no, their website doesn't say where their parts are made or sourced, but how many website do? Toyota? Ford? ARB?
Back on topic...great looking Hundy Heather! And good looking build, so far. I think someone earlier said that your Dad will need one after this delivery - and I bet they are right.
Back on topic...great looking Hundy Heather! And good looking build, so far. I think someone earlier said that your Dad will need one after this delivery - and I bet they are right.
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Thanks Rick! The Slee skid plates arrive on Tuesday too!
Rick, thanks for the very informative post. It's good to hear my initial thoughts reaffirmed. I've been in contact w/ Eli on a couple of different questions about Iron Man products, and they definitely are a tempting purchase.
Care to share more pictres of it?
k9crazy said:
Heather, did they have to do any cutting for the bumper?