Big Brakes - 14 Inch Rotors Wilwood Calipers

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Looking at tires that are 35" tall-ish in 18" rim: Dura-trac only has 325/65-18; Cooper STT Pro has 325/65-18 and 305/70-18 (kind of narrow, which is nice). They look to be $100+ more/tire. Sooo, there are some choices(many other brands too I'm sure, those are just personal favorites), but like everything else 80, get your wallet out.

Anybody recommend a wheel brand that 18's can be found that are somewhat reasonably priced, correct backspacing, and aren't total garbage?
 
This is the wheel I was thinking of. Evidently it's a BBS wheel, TRD used. Pretty sure it's the same wheel the OP has. I would have to go back and look but I am on my phone.

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I just ordered a Wilwood Aero6 kit with 14 inch rotors. Looking at the specs online, a 17 inch wheel should fit, but it will be tight. I'm running Fuel Anza 17 inch rims, and am hoping not to have to choose between abandoning the brake upgrade or buying new wheels and tires. From what I could see online, it will be tight but it should work.
 
hey , i just ran into a neighbor that has 2 custom metal fabrication businesses , she told me if i can provide and drawing to them they can estimate what it would cost to make one or 100 or more . they manufacture upstate and are probably pretty reasonable.
 
portiadog1 said:
I just ordered a Wilwood Aero6 kit with 14 inch rotors. Looking at the specs online, a 17 inch wheel should fit, but it will be tight. I'm running Fuel Anza 17 inch rims, and am hoping not to have to choose between abandoning the brake upgrade or buying new wheels and tires. From what I could see online, it will be tight but it should work.
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Did you go with a kit for a 6 bolt Chevy to mod to fit your 80? They don't have toyota applications do they?
 
raynyc said:
hey , i just ran into a neighbor that has 2 custom metal fabrication businesses , she told me if i can provide and drawing to them they can estimate what it would cost to make one or 100 or more . they manufacture upstate and are probably pretty reasonable.
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I'm well down this path already. Feel free to duplicate the effort. This isn't my design so I won't hold you back ;)
 
thats cool , i just thought i would let you know.
 
We went a different path to be able to maintain Toyota reliability with the calipers as 4 pots, by using a bigger 14" rotor, and a Toyota caliper as a bolt on, maintaining the dust seals for the pistons etc.

We use a DBA rotor, and a carbon fibre pad, having said that, the std later 80 brakes with good rotors and carbon fibre pads will pull up loaded on 35s 4-5 car lengths shorter from 64mph than a stock 80 on stock brakes. Over and over. And you get to keep the std wheel size.

We have been using the Method wheels for the 35s, and the 285/75/18 is a 35 tyre that works on many trucks.

The clearance issue will more than likely be to the centre spoke design of the 17, than the actual dia.
 
AutoCraft Aus said:
We went a different path to be able to maintain Toyota reliability with the calipers as 4 pots, by using a bigger 14" rotor, and a Toyota caliper as a bolt on, maintaining the dust seals for the pistons etc.

We use a DBA rotor, and a carbon fibre pad, having said that, the std later 80 brakes with good rotors and carbon fibre pads will pull up loaded on 35s 4-5 car lengths shorter from 64mph than a stock 80 on stock brakes. Over and over. And you get to keep the std wheel size.

We have been using the Method wheels for the 35s, and the 285/75/18 is a 35 tyre that works on many trucks.

The clearance issue will more than likely be to the centre spoke design of the 17, than the actual dia.
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Could you share the details on both setups?

I don't speak 80-series as well as I should....
 
AutoCraft Aus said:
We went a different path to be able to maintain Toyota reliability with the calipers as 4 pots, by using a bigger 14" rotor, and a Toyota caliper as a bolt on, maintaining the dust seals for the pistons etc.

We use a DBA rotor, and a carbon fibre pad, having said that, the std later 80 brakes with good rotors and carbon fibre pads will pull up loaded on 35s 4-5 car lengths shorter from 64mph than a stock 80 on stock brakes. Over and over. And you get to keep the std wheel size.

We have been using the Method wheels for the 35s, and the 285/75/18 is a 35 tyre that works on many trucks.

The clearance issue will more than likely be to the centre spoke design of the 17, than the actual dia.
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Any links on the fancy pads?
 
Mieser said:
Could you share the details on both setups?

I don't speak 80-series as well as I should....
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The bigger rotor set up we use a 14" rotor thats available from DBA that works in a slotted T2 configuration.

We also use a 4 pot Toyota front caliper off a current Toyota to work with the larger dia rotor.

With this we have carbon fibre pads as well, but fitting 17s is a slim chance depending on wheels.

For wheeling applications, we like to use calipers that are water proof and dust proof, as we find most aftermarket calipers dont have good sealing for the pistons like a cruiser caliper.

Because on normal 80 series DBA T2 set ups our carbon pads and the rotors work so well, we didnt go further than pre production on the 14s set up, because our pad and rotor combo works so well, for alot less $, and no wheel hassles.


I think anyone who has ridden in SNOWY while at Cruise Moab would attest to how well the brakes work in a 7000lb truck on 35's, though because the vehicle handles so well, only g force is felt in retarding the vehicle, as it doesnt dance around on worn rubber bushes while the panhard angle changes as it nose dives dont kick in either.
 
scottryana said:
This is the wheel I was thinking of. Evidently it's a BBS wheel, TRD used. Pretty sure it's the same wheel the OP has. I would have to go back and look but I am on my phone.

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Did some digging around - It's a BBS RW, or in Toyota / TRD speak it was a wheel on the 1st gen Tundra Darrell Waltrip Edition.

I don't know if I'll end up doing a BBK, but if so these wheels either in silver or powdercoated a custom color seem like my flavor too - Summit or Jegs even was vendoring them in 18x9, didn't see if there was any offset or if they were our spec - saw mention somewhere of Chev/GMC/Caddy using them in both 18x9 & 20x9.
 
here are the specs for the BBS wheels i'm using. but it is not a direct fit, i had to bore to fit the FF hub.
RW018
ET10
9Jx18H2

Robert Way
BBS of America, Inc.
5320 BBS Drive
Braselton, GA 30517
Tel : 770-967-9848 ext 3019
Fax : 770-967-9866
Email : robert.way@bbs-usa.com
Web : www.bbs-usa.com
 
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Dale Earnhardt - Darrell Waltrip, whatever. lol. It was something like that.

LINUS said:
Did some digging around - It's a BBS RW, or in Toyota / TRD speak it was a wheel on the 1st gen Tundra Darrell Waltrip Edition.

I don't know if I'll end up doing a BBK, but if so these wheels either in silver or powdercoated a custom color seem like my flavor too - Summit or Jegs even was vendoring them in 18x9, didn't see if there was any offset or if they were our spec - saw mention somewhere of Chev/GMC/Caddy using them in both 18x9 & 20x9.
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scottryana said:
Dale Earnhardt - Darrell Waltrip, whatever. lol. It was something like that.
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Haha, yeah - totally with you, posted since I did enough Googles to find info since I like the wheel, others might too.

But yep, I get you ;)
 
In pursuing this project for my truck, I found a local hot rod shop (Eastern Rod & Custom - who I can't say enough great things about) who has done a lot of custom brake work. Because I am attempting to go with the Aero 6 calipers, the bracket that @1FZj80 designed would not work for my situation. The hot rod shop decided to make a single caliper mounting bracket rather than an adapter.

Wilwood Aero 6 Caliper bracket 1

Wilwood Aero 6 Caliper bracket 1

Wilwood Aero 6 Caliper bracket 2

Wilwood Aero 6 Caliper bracket 2

Wilwood Aero 6 Caliper bracket 3

Wilwood Aero 6 Caliper bracket 3


Once we assembled the hubs, we realized that the brackets wouldn't work because they didn't fit. Shaving the brackets down a little bit on one side has given enough clearance for the steering arm, and seems to have us rounding third base and headed into home. Hoping to have it all assembled by Monday.

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I really want to thank @1FZj80 for being so helpful.
 
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