I also questioned why ARB changed the winch mount design because it seems like the separate cradle would be better. However, somebody on here from Oz (100 TD?) said the old design also had problems with the winch cradle bending under heavy pulls.

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This is news to me. I have heard no other complaints on this board. Anyone know of issues with vibe on the ARB combo bull bar? Really want some insight as I am just about ready to pull the trigger ordering this bumper for my '99LC...For the record, I used to have an '03+ combo bar, and while it looked nice, it was a vibration machine, especially with the winch mounted. And that was just on the freeway! Mojave corrugations actually had me scared that my bumper was going to snap off and go under the truck, causing expensive damage. Once I started hearing stories about the newer combo bars stretching their accordion mounts in Oz, I decided to remove it and went to an older Sahara bar with the separate dedicated winch cradle. A much better design IMHO. The only weight on the accordion mounts is the face of the bumper itself, not the winch or the majority of the bracing for a winch. Also, the Sahara is lighter (no upper bar work), which I like.
I'm not exactly sure why ARB went with mounting the winch to the face of the bumper. I know bumpers for the 80 and other trucks do that, but those trucks also do not have accordion mounts to preserve airbag functionality, so they're still pretty solid.

comparison shots
98-02- no fog light option, winch mounts to cradle on frame (feet down).
03-07- fog lights, wings sit higher, bumper mounted winch (feet forward), stronger wings.
Angles are the same, clearance in the center is the same, I think the 03+ looks better. The other 100 also has another inch of lift than me, I have the same clearance on the wing portion.
Is there enough room in the slot above the (03+)ARB placard to fit a led light bar?
I think I have to show these pictures to our local ARB in Oz.
They keep telling that only the Sahara bar will fit the LX470.
I went to a local 4x4 shop and they said that the chassis of both the LC and the Lexus are the same. What has been confirmed by you guys.
Those with the ARB full bar and AHC, are there any saggings or issues with the additional weight?
Is there enough room in the slot above the (03+)ARB placard to fit a led light bar?
pfran42 said:I have a 20 inch dual row LED light bar on the way for testing that I can verify fitment with on 98-02 and 03-07 ARBs if Nick and Steve let me play with their bumpers for an afternoon.
Sure thing. I'd like to see if one would fit
Cheers.
ARB isn't easy to deal with over here.
If it isn't in the list, it can't be done.
They don't think outside the box.
I have a 03 + Sahara bar ARB Bumper I'm getting ready to put on my 01 LX, what LED bar will fit under the Bull bar? I'm thinking just above the main bumper, not on top of or below the Bull bar. Is the bumper install a one banana or more job? I may just take it to Iron Pig to let them install it for me.
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