2863's or 2864's (2 Viewers)

[REZARF]

Yup, I have some rake for sure, probably close to 1.5-2" higher in the rear, but man, when you're loaded down the truck will still handle great.

I'd prefer a level ride, but some rake really makes the 100 drive nicer... someone smarter than me could tell you why, I just know when the 100 sits level the truck feels really loose, and with some rake the truck feels planted and predictable.

I think they way to get it more level and keep the ride would be a good set of 860's and a set of airbags... then you can adjust to load- but who's got time for that!?

 

[Bloomer]

Thanks @REZARF. I’m pretty happy with the 864’s. I’ll admit, right after I installed them, and before driving it, I wasn’t too sure I made the right decision with them. I drove it a good while today with the trailer and am really happy with how it feels and handles. Think I’m going to crank on the T-bars a little and get the alignment checked. I’m at 21”
in the front and would like to settle on 21.5 to 21.75. I think that will give me adequate rake and will verify the droop.

 

[abuck99]

@abuck99

All registered for HiH and barring anything unexpected should be there with the Southern Cruisers (@ntsaint @bamabrock). Y’all going to make it this year?

Planning on it- see you there

 

[fireball]

What's the tongue weight on your trailer?

The 864s work well with 300+ lb tongue weight of my trailer. Looking for some better shocks though. 50k now on the OMEs time for something better.

 

[Bloomer]

What's the tongue weight on your trailer?

The 864s work well with 300+ lb tongue weight of my trailer. Looking for some better shocks though. 50k now on the OMEs time for something better.

Not sure. It’s pretty light as it’s just a M416 modified with a lid and RTT. The 864’s hardly know it’s there.

 

[SEEMTEE]

I put the 864's on my 100 and I'm very happy I made the switch. The ride is not noticeably different and it handles the weight I throw at it.

 

[Exiled]

The ride with the 864 is great. I've had them on for 10+ years and drive a lot of dirt roads, mine have only settled 0.25" or so since new but the ride seems to have improved over the years. 4x4Labs rear bumper with a steel wheel and 285 tire off the carrier. But there is a pronounced rake on the truck, mine looks like a cinch bug.

 

[Bloomer]

Cranked torsion bars today and front end is up to 21.5 inches. Rear has settled to 23
inches. Happy with the new stance. Before and after pics below.

 

[bozncsurf]

Cranked torsion bars today and front end is up to 21.5 inches. Rear has settled to 23
inches. Happy with the new stance. Before and after pics below.

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That looks great to me.

Any substantial handling changes?

 

[catz]

Cranked torsion bars today and front end is up to 21.5 inches. Rear has settled to 23
inches. Happy with the new stance. Before and after pics below.

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What tire size are those? 285 or 35"?

 

[Bloomer]

That looks great to me.

Any substantial handling changes?

Thanks! No issues. Plan to get alignment checked.

 

[Bloomer]

What tire size are those? 285 or 35"?

275/70/18. Think that’s pretty close to 33”.

 

[Alibaster]

I'm going to resurrect this thread. I am adding a 4x4 labs rear bumper to the rear which will have a swingout for a tire. Are 864s overkill for this? No plan for overlanding gear, just a toughbox in the back with some misc recovery gear.

 

[DJCloz]

It might be a firmer ride with 64’s than 63’s. What kind of shocks are you running?

 

[Alibaster]

I was just going to go with the old generic OME nitros.

 

[fireball]

You don’t have enough weight to warrant 864s.

 

[Kofoed]

It might be a firmer ride with 64’s than 63’s. What kind of shocks are you running?

Factory springs: 170 lbs/inch

863: 250
864 320

864 is almost twice as stiff as factory.

 

[Bloomer]

Agree with @fireball.

I had Slee heavies before the 864’s. I believe the Slee heavies are the same spring rate as 863’s but cut a little shorter to minimize the rake. Before installing the drawers and going to 864’s I had a similar set up as you (Slee bumper with swing outs) and the Slee heavies were perfect.

 

[bozncsurf]

@Alibaster Check out the OME 866

At first I ran the 865 for 1.5” of lift and they were as comfortable as stock. When I got the bumper I moved over to slinky springs.

From my understanding and slee’s recommendation when I picked up their bumper was that 865 could be replaced with 866 or slee heavies.

Honestly I would avoid ome shocks. Lots of guys run 1.5” lifts on OEM shocks that are super inexpensive

Here’s a link to more confusing info on springs

Clarification on OME 2865 vs 2866

forum.ih8mud.com

 

[bozncsurf]

I'm going to resurrect this thread. I am adding a 4x4 labs rear bumper to the rear which will have a swingout for a tire. Are 864s overkill for this? No plan for overlanding gear, just a toughbox in the back with some misc recovery gear.

Here’s some motivation

@West Wagon cruiser