No offroad just go with the Michelin defenders.
200 Series Tire and Wheel Size Database
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Defenders are probably your best option but I will give an honorable mention to the Yokohama Geolandar G056 H/T. It’s the closest replacement to the AT23. Several CPO trucks I’ve test driven had them, including the one I bought and put about 10k miles on. They’re a solid tire, lightweight, great road feel, quiet, solid in rain, good mileage (I was hitting 21mpg on road trips) and held up their own on light off roading. They’re also competitively priced.
Based on what you said I’m sure the consensus will be the Michelin’s. You don’t need the KO3s unless you want the aggressive AT look. I switched to the Nitto trail grappler G3s as a kind of middle ground between the KO3s and Michelins and they are quiet. But it seems the Michelins would serve your needs the best outside of subjective sidewall/tread design
Copper makes a good highway tire, less expensive than Michelin.
I'm looking ahead to the end of this year when I'm planning to replace the stock wheels and tires (Dunlops) on my 2021.
I would really like to purchase the 17" Nomad 504 Fields in +35mm.
How much trouble is this offset going to give me in terms of rubbing? My goal is to avoid any sort of modification work (that includes heating/bending plastic).
I'd also like to stay as close to the same for tire size as possible. Seems like that doesn't give me a ton of options in terms of the usual suspects as I'm looking for something like 285/65/R17 or 275/65/R17?
P.S. Any issues getting 17" wheels to work with the spare tire carrier in the stock position?
I would really like to purchase the 17" Nomad 504 Fields in +35mm.
How much trouble is this offset going to give me in terms of rubbing? My goal is to avoid any sort of modification work (that includes heating/bending plastic).
I'd also like to stay as close to the same for tire size as possible. Seems like that doesn't give me a ton of options in terms of the usual suspects as I'm looking for something like 285/65/R17 or 275/65/R17?
P.S. Any issues getting 17" wheels to work with the spare tire carrier in the stock position?
I've done a little searching in the forum on this topic but haven't taken 5 hours to read through this entire 168-page thread. Hoping somebody can answer my questions. I have a 2015 LX I bought in January. It has the stock 20" wheels and brand new Michelin Defender LTX MS2 (275/55-20) Extra Load. My LX serves as a grocery getter/people hauler 80% of the time and a tow vehicle for my 5K travel trailer and 3K utility trailer the other 20%. I think the Michelins are adequate for the towing jobs on pavement but I occasionally would like to take it off-pavement in NM/CO/AZ/UT and don't want to shred the Michelins. I found some 18" wheels that came off a 2015 LC and was thinking about having a second set of wheels and Load D or E All-Terrain tires for any off-pavement trips. Size target would be 275/65-18 as they are almost exactly the same diameter as the 275/55-20 on there right now and I'm not sure I will swap out the spare every time. I'm assuming the 18" LC wheels will work perfectly fine but what do people who have two sets of tires do about TPMS signals? Do you reprogram every time you swap tires? Do you ignore the light?
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Micheline LTX are fine tires and may be all you need even off pavement generally. But may be more susceptible to punctures depending on the types of surfaces you run on.
I think many of us have tried running two sets of wheels but if I'm behind honest, it's a pain in the butt. The Cruiser is great because it's a Swiss army knife always ready for everything, all at once.
275s are a poor choice IMO, much of it stemming from lower load capacities, requiring higher pressures for equivalent load ratings that other size tires can achieve without extra pressure. Knock on affects to poor ride quality, especially towing which requires even higher pressures.
I'd recommend mild AT tires, like Nitto Terra Grappler G3, Michelin LTX A/T 2, or BFGoodrich Trail-Terrain T/A - which can be an all around solid complement to all the things a Cruiser is great at.
20" wheels can be an asset to towing stability from my experience. 18" wheels will work great too but need a couple PSI more pressure for equivalent lateral stability under tow.
I'd recommend 285/50R20 or 285/55R20s, or if you're switching to 18s: 285/60R18 or 285/65R18s.
I appreciate the perspectives. I always adjust pressures when I'm towing or hauling a heavy load. My previous experience has been in my '99 UZJ100, which I currently run 285/75R16 BFG KO2, Load E. When I'm just driving with no loads, I keep the pressures about 40. When I add load/tow, I go up to 50. But when I'm off road in NM/CO where there are lots of sharp rocks on the trails, I air down to about 20. I'm worried about shredding the LTX on the trail.
Regarding sizes, 285/50R20, which I understand is the stock size, seems to have pretty limited tire options available while the 275/55R20 I'm running now has a very wide range of tire options and is only a 2% difference in diameter to the stock size. This is what was installed on it when I bought it and they're in new condition. So I wasn't motivated to spend another $2,000 in tires right away after buying it. If they had been in bad shape, I probably would have upsized and put an all terrain on. Next time I get tires I'll check out the 285/55 options, but I just paid $400 to put a new spare under that matches the other 4 tires so I'm probably going to stick with equivalent diameter for a while.
I'm also thinking if I switch to the LC 18" wheel, there's a chance I end up just leaving them on all the time if they don't have any adverse effects in terms of ride and handling for my primary uses of mall cruising, trailer towing and mild off-roading.
Airing down is really the only tough part about the 20" scenario. I'd be worried about pinch flats and sidewall damage. FWIW, my stepdad runs all over colorado and utah trails on Michelin Defender LXT, so the tire itself should be up to the job as long as "looking tough" isn't a requirement.
No ‘Looking tough’ requirement for me. I'm old and fat and having a tough looking LX isn't going to change anything.
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In 2022, I switched from the Dunlops to
BFG Trail-terrain T/A 116T 275/65r18
Fits stock. Buy 5 and replace the spare.
32.07” diameter gives you a +0.61” increase to circumference & 0.30” “lift”
been happy with them for 4 years and ~45k miles. Still have 10k left roughly. Great highway and gives you a little traction on gravel. They ain’t muddin’ tires.
I'm interested in exactly the same wheels (but with a smaller tire). How do the 0 offset wheels fit on their own?
For what it's worth, I have, ahem, four sets of wheels for my rig, all with TPMS sensors. I can interchange between the sets without TPMS faults, for example winter tires on 18" Tundra wheels and summer tires on 18" Land Cruiser wheels.
On the sideline are the OE 20" Lexus wheels and 17" Rock Warriors awaiting new tires when my 18" summer tires wear out later this year.
On the sideline are the OE 20" Lexus wheels and 17" Rock Warriors awaiting new tires when my 18" summer tires wear out later this year.
Mickey T baja boss AT 255/85R17 pizza cutters on 25mm Method 17x7.5s and decked the mounting flange 1/8" to make them ~28mmET for zero poke. Sprung with stock rate bilsteins in the rear with their +1.5"ish lift units and some stock rate longer custom springs up front for ~1.25" lift. Running them around 30/32 psi for normal driving and 40 if it goes for the rare extended highway marathon run. Spare barely fits but it does.
Just saw that Nitto lists a non-LT 285/65R18 now for both the Terra Grappler G3 (stock number 224580, 47.82 lbs) and the Recon Grappler (stock number 219230, 47.02 lbs). Has anybody run the SL/XL rated versions of either of these tires?
Looking for some advice or maybe just validation...I've read a lot of the posts here, but not all and I looked through the database, but don't see my desired setup.
(here is the link lcjockey: )
I have a 2009 LC with OME BP51 suspension, which I think is about a 1.75" lift. I want to keep the stock wheels because I like the look (the truck is black with port applied grey flairs and wrap around gray sill paint so the silver wheels look great) and also because I don't want to spend the money on a full wheel and tire package if I can just upsize the tires. I have other things to buy like a 12 volt fridge...
So here is the question: Will I get any rubbing with 275/70R18 Micky Thompson Baja Boss AT on the stock wheels without spacers, etc.? Any issues with load rating (I have ARB drawers and Slee skids, but no other added weight other than the gear in the drawers and an EcoFlow Delta 3 + battery) or wheel width or offset? From what i read 33.2" should fit in the stock spare location, right?
(here is the link lcjockey: )
I have a 2009 LC with OME BP51 suspension, which I think is about a 1.75" lift. I want to keep the stock wheels because I like the look (the truck is black with port applied grey flairs and wrap around gray sill paint so the silver wheels look great) and also because I don't want to spend the money on a full wheel and tire package if I can just upsize the tires. I have other things to buy like a 12 volt fridge...
So here is the question: Will I get any rubbing with 275/70R18 Micky Thompson Baja Boss AT on the stock wheels without spacers, etc.? Any issues with load rating (I have ARB drawers and Slee skids, but no other added weight other than the gear in the drawers and an EcoFlow Delta 3 + battery) or wheel width or offset? From what i read 33.2" should fit in the stock spare location, right?
Thanks! Better than not finding the link. I've never understood why its not pinned to first post
