Build 1997 FZJ80 to HDJ80 1HD-FTE + H152F

[tmxmotorsports]

I’m going to have something like a local 80 series get together since you and everyone else I know around town drives an 80.

When/where is this happening?

 

[jomelo]

When/where is this happening?

My place. North Florida.

 

[SNLC]

I was going to say the same thing. Every mustang dyno I've ever run me Evo on returned 10-15% lower numbers... and every shop that runs a mustang always calls their dyno the "heartbreaker dyno".

They used to have a sign in this dyno bay that said “room of disappointment”.

Cheers

 

[SNLC]

I wonder if that has to do with the pull being in 3rd gear or the ramp rate of the dyno or something because we typically see max torque at approx. 1800 rpm and max power at 3400-3600 rpm, 4th gear pull, and have found ramp rate between 5-7 km/h per second is necessary for a diesel because we want it to load up and make boost asap.

I'm trying to find @Indestructible 47 dyno graph to confirm because it was the last FTE we ran.

First time I have used this dyno. First time I have ran a diesel on a dyno. First FTE we have installed-swapped.

John was pretty happy with it last weekend, as per his posts and extensive testing. That was 16psi. It is more than noticeably better now and he lives at a low elevation compared to here and last weekends test. We could hit 1150+* on the hardest pulls before at 16psi, due to fuel to boost setup. Now with more boost it’s dropped 200* or more.

We had a few other things that were not quite dialed in last weekend too like the clutch. That is fully dialed in now and we are working down our list till the Cruiser is 110%.

I have zero doubts that John is going to love and enjoy this Cruiser more than he already does. It’s that good and dialing everything in is making it noticeably better.


Cheers

 

[thatcabledude]

My place. North Florida.

I’m down!

 

[AussieHJCruza]

First time I have used this dyno. First time I have ran a diesel on a dyno. First FTE we have installed-swapped.

John was pretty happy with it last weekend, as per his posts and extensive testing. That was 16psi. It is more than noticeably better now and he lives at a low elevation compared to here and last weekends test. We could hit 1150+* on the hardest pulls before at 16psi, due to fuel to boost setup. Now with more boost it’s dropped 200* or more.

We had a few other things that were not quite dialed in last weekend too like the clutch. That is fully dialed in now and we are working down our list till the Cruiser is 110%.

I have zero doubts that John is going to love and enjoy this Cruiser more than he already does. It’s that good and dialing everything in is making it noticeably better.


Cheers

Cheers @SNLC wasn't trying to be disparaging or bashing what you've done at all - just interesting to compare processes and results between vehicles.

 

[SNLC]

Cheers @SNLC wasn't trying to be disparaging or bashing what you've done at all - just interesting to compare processes and results between vehicles.

I know and please post the results you guys had. No worries at all my man.

As you probably know, there is A LOT that goes on behind the scenes in any build that shops-builders-regular guys don’t share. So was just trying to summarize a bunch of that.

Cheers

 

[jomelo]

First time I have used this dyno. First time I have ran a diesel on a dyno. First FTE we have installed-swapped.

John was pretty happy with it last weekend, as per his posts and extensive testing. That was 16psi. It is more than noticeably better now and he lives at a low elevation compared to here and last weekends test. We could hit 1150+* on the hardest pulls before at 16psi, due to fuel to boost setup. Now with more boost it’s dropped 200* or more.

We had a few other things that were not quite dialed in last weekend too like the clutch. That is fully dialed in now and we are working down our list till the Cruiser is 110%.

I have zero doubts that John is going to love and enjoy this Cruiser more than he already does. It’s that good and dialing everything in is making it noticeably better.


Cheers

I probably would have driven it back last week if given the chance. It was that good.

 

[AussieHJCruza]

I know and please post the results you guys had. No worries at all my man.

As you probably know, there is A LOT that goes on behind the scenes in any build that shops-builders-regular guys don’t share. So was just trying to summarize a bunch of that.

Cheers

Absolutely, I would say from our personal experience that a build like this is an iceberg...you can see 30% of what went into it.

 

[TheLCProject]

No worries and thanks for your input. I was just hoping to see 250-300 and around 500ftlbs. It may be with a part time kit in it.

Like I say drivability is what matters, that and EGTs. Both are real good.

Cheers

I don't really know what I'm talking about and there's probably more differences in driveline to account for, but I'm sure you saw these numbers from the Dirty30?

By my calcs: 213 hp and 573 ft-lbs

 

[TonyP]

I don't really know what I'm talking about and there's probably more differences in driveline to account for, but I'm sure you saw these numbers from the Dirty30?

By my calcs: 213 hp and 573 ft-lbs

Rear wheel dyno, auto box, different turbo, possibly stock fuel, probably at sea level, and a different dyno all together.
Those make big differences.

Those numbers awhp at elevation on a Mustang dyno are pretty dang good.

Judging how it felt before the chip, this thing with another 20% power must be the jam and very drivable.

 

[SNLC]

So a lot of little details getting finished.

Installed these King rear shock guards.

Lowered the p/s reservoir a solid 1/2” or more.

Cheers

 

[SNLC]

Built this guard out of aluminum to protect the wiring on the backside of the drawer wing. No chance now of gear getting hung up on the wiring.

Cheers

 

[SNLC]

Polished rear quarter panels and installed these.

Cheers

 

[wngrog]

No worries and thanks for your input. I was just hoping to see 250-300 and around 500ftlbs. It may be with a part time kit in it.

Like I say drivability is what matters, that and EGTs. Both are real good.

Cheers

I say you lose at least 50% crank HP to the wheels here.

 

[SNLC]

I say you lose at least 50% crank HP to the wheels here.

With the auto I would agree, with the manual it’s less. Then ya got full time 4wd, 35’s with stock gears, ect.

Anyways, I am sure you will see the Cruiser in person, you can decide for yourself.

Cheers

 

[White Stripe]

Looks like its about 123ftlbs torque more than the 1fz to the wheels. Thats a very nice increase. Its hard to tell what the numbers are to the crank since dyno accuracy can be off. But if you are using the same dyno to do comparisons it will usually give you a good idea of how much of a increase you are getting compared to where you were before. Also the overall curve of the power is important I think in a cruiser. Peak numbers are impressive I guess to some extent but in a cruiser i want a good curve. I personally want torque to come on at as low of an rpm as possible on a cruiser and then carry it on as far as I can through the rpm range. Thats what I hope for.

 

[wngrog]

With the auto I would agree, with the manual it’s less. Then ya got full time 4wd, 35’s with stock gears, ect.

Anyways, I am sure you will see the Cruiser in person, you can decide for yourself.

Cheers

Yessir. I think it’s shipping here so we can bomb it around and JLM can drive home from here

 

[ofer bruhis]

With the auto I would agree, with the manual it’s less. Then ya got full time 4wd, 35’s with stock gears, ect.

Anyways, I am sure you will see the Cruiser in person, you can decide for yourself.

Cheers

Ian, you guys had any thought about going part time with front wheel hub lock? It’s an easy change.

 

[AussieHJCruza]

Ian, you guys had any thought about going part time with front wheel hub lock? It’s an easy change.

In my experience, totally screws the superior driving dynamics of an 80 as opposed to it's competitors such as Patrol etc.