100 SERIES and LX470 PIDs & ODB2 gauges.

[THEIZZARDKING]

Hey guys, i got a bluetooth odb2 reader and downloaded both the torque pro and dash command apps, ive been doing a bunch of searching around trying to find a good list of PIDs for us, not really having much luck and not really having a great understanding of PIDs in general is making this a struggle...

1. Are PIDs year specific, generation or brand? I see people using PIDs from corollas on tundras and such...is that more or less a hack/work around or is that normal?

2. Anyone got a list or can at least explain to me exactly what I am looking for?

This is for a 2000 LX470.

Here's a list I've found that says it works for both Toyota and Lexus in some cases...its the best I got so far.

http://alflash.com.ua/OBDII/PIDs.pdf

PDF Pulled from this post.
Toyota OBD2 Pid Codes - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums

Let me know if you have your something better or at least a general idea of where to look and what to look for.

I'll report back if i find anything else, thanks a ton

 

[LBridges]

I think Toyota tries to keep a set of numbers the same across all models, but then there are things on some vehicles that just aren't there for other models or years, so some numbers do vary. You can source the data through the Toyota Techinfo website, but you have to pay to access.

 

[cwmoser]

I too have the ELM327 and the Torque Pro app.
Having a robust set of PIDs for our LX/LC's would be great.

 

[vman07]

What does PID mean??

 

[DirtDawg]

What does PID mean??

Perimeter IDs. They are codes you can input to read out certain data through the OBDII port. Scangauge calls them x-gauges.

 

[enfield]

How do you input these codes?

 

[DirtDawg]

How do you input these codes?

Well for starters you need a device that can read PIDs. Scangauge, UltraGauge, bluetooth OBDII readers, etc. Then the PIDs can vary by device and each device has a different method of entering them.

 

[LandCruiserPhil]

How do you input these codes?

I take mine to ScanGauge and get the latest updates and x-gauge codes loaded. I like the Scangauge over others due to the excellent customer service and ScanGauge is the only device (i have found) that will provide trans temps for our '06. If you tow trans temps are a must for a 100 series IMO.

 

[Jeepster09]

You like SCANGUAGE....I like beer and pretzels.

 

[abuck99]

Access to PID's via OBDII protocol are pretty limited on pre 2006 LC/LX. Not many options (that I know of) that can be pulled via OBDII from sensors beyond the basics: voltage, engine temp, load etc. Depending on the year of your 100 there are different protocols, and different PID (Xguage codes) needed to pull for example Trans temp.

 

[THEIZZARDKING]

i keep seeing this formula repeated across various threads and such...i think really all we need is the PID number itself, below are a bunch of snips from around the net that seem to be working for earlier generations of various Toyota's.

In Torque enter:

OBD2 Mode and PID:
21d9
Long Name:
Transmission Fluid Temperature 1 (or what you like)
Short Name:
Trans 1
Minimum Value:
0.0
Maximum value:
300.0
Scale factor:
x1
Unit Type:
°F (or alternatively C is you use the second equation below)

Equation:
((((E*256)+F) * (7/100) – 400)/10) – for output in F
____________________________________________________

OBD2 Mode & PID: 21D9
Long Name: Transmission Temp
Short Name: Trans T
Minimum Value: 0
Maximum Value: 300
Scale Factor: x1
Unit Type: *F
Equation: ((((E*256)+F)*(7/100)-400)/10)
OBD Header: left blank

__________________________________________________________
Name: Transmission Temp (pan)
Short name: Trans temp (pan)
PID: 2182
Equation: ((((A*256)+B)*(7/100)-400)/10)
Min Value: -40
Max Value: 325 F
Header: Leave emtpy

Name: Transmission Temp (Converter)
Short name: Converter Temp
PID: 2182
Equation: ((((C*256)+D)*(7/100)-400)/10)
Min Value -40
Max Value: 325 F
Header: Leave empty
_______________________________________________

Tredwards '05 LC
Scangauge:
TXD: 686AF121B4
RXF: 046105B40000
RXD: 2808
MTH: 00090005FFD8

Torque (maybe 2 sensors):
Sensor 1
OBD2 mode: 21B4
Name: Transmission Temp 1
Short name: TFT 1
Min value: 0
Max value: 300
scale factor: x1
Equation: A*(9/5)-38
OBD Headed: leave blank

Sensor 2
OBD2 mode: 21B4
Name: Transmission Temp 2
Short name: TFT 2
Min value: 0
Max value: 300
scale factor: x1
Equation: B*(9/5)-38
OBD Headed: leave blank

______________________________________



here's a few other links that may or may not be of help to us.

trans temp and AFR PIDs for a 99 4runner.
How To: Monitor Trans Fluid Temp (and other things) On Your iPhone - Toyota 4Runner Forum - Largest 4Runner Forum

trans temp for 1st gen sequoia's
Transmission Temperatures using Torque App and OBDII Bluetooth Adapter - Toyota Tundra Forums : Tundra Solutions Forum

*very* interesting information...
Guide: Converting ScanGauge Codes to Torque Pro PIDs - Toyota Tundra Forums : Tundra Solutions Forum

relative link to above.
» X-Gauge Categories » TOYOTA – LEXUS – SCION

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1 user reports.

None of these worked:
21d9
0105
2182

Gave 0 result:
01b4

Do you any in mind you'd like me to try?

i'm flying out for vacation tomorrow so im not going to get a chance to play with these for a few weeks, i'll do another data dump and report back if any of these work after i get a chance to play with it when i get back...

just to confuse issues more, it looks like they changed the transmission in the lx's in 2002 so there's going to be a split in the PID numers...
Lexus LX470 1998-2002 V8 4.7L 4 SP AWD A343F
Lexus LX470 2003-2007 V8 4.7L 5 SP AWD A750F

i would expect 98-02 and 03-07 to be different since it's a different trans altogether.

i found some specs for the temp sensor in the A343f trans, but it still doesn't help with the PID code.
{Toyota Repair & Electrical Manuals. The schematic says I should look for a Brown-White and Blue-White wires connected to the "A/T Oil Temp Sensor". It's a resistor that gives off 12.1 kOhms when 20 C (68 F) cold, to 780 Ohms when 110 C (230 F) hot.} quote

i'm going to keep digging and see what i can come up with in the mean time.

(off topic but really interesting for later model vehicles 06+ )
Hacking into a Vehicle CAN bus (Toyothack and SocketCAN)

ETA: i'll keep updating this post with the various PIDs that i find for the LC100 and LX470....i do think there will be a difference though in years as if im not mistaken the transmission changed mid-generation, so im thinking the PIDs changed as well.

 

[LandCruiserPhil]

Scangauge displays trans temps in the past on 99 and 06 Land Cruiser and Lexus

 

[THEIZZARDKING]

data dump for my own reference in the future.

 

[THEIZZARDKING]

Scangauge displays trans temps in the past on 99 and 06 Land Cruiser and Lexus

right, and apparently there's a way of converting scan gauge x-codes into actual usable PIDs...haven't got a chance to see if it works yet.

not sure how i feel about that... so im going to work through the problem and see what i come with first before i resort to trying that.

i had a scan gauge in one of my old trucks, but honestly the whole UI is really dated at this point, doubly so when you start seeing how cool and customizable these apps are...it really has nothing to do with the price, i would gladly spend more money on the scan gauge if it looked cooler as i'm driving down the road.

 

[LandCruiserPhil]

right, and apparently there's a way of converting scan gauge x-codes into actual usable PIDs...haven't got a chance to see if it works yet.

not sure how i feel about that... so im going to work through the problem and see what i come with first before i resort to trying that.

i had a scan gauge in one of my old trucks, but honestly the whole UI is really dated at this point, doubly so when you start seeing how cool and customizable these apps are...it really has nothing to do with the price, i would gladly spend more money on the scan gauge if it looked cooler as i'm driving down the road.

To each its own I need simple Admitting I dont understand 1/2 of your terminology. But I do know I get the info I need from Scangauge and have for 10 years. Any issue I have had I drop by and they update and program anything available. I do agree Scangauge is somewhat limited or what it can display, I use an Ultra gauge when I need fuel trim, O2 senors readings and the likes.

 

[SmoothLC]

Didn't someone post the formula for creating the trans temp in the 100 series a year or two ago? IIRC there was a post on that.

 

[abuck99]

This inmate figured some PID's out on both Torque and Scanguage. The TFT scanguage code works in my 05.

Ok guys I am hesitant to say I have figured it out but I did get at least 1 number fitting with what I would expect for the trans temp. I found this code for a 2005 Sienna and it appeared to work on my 2005 Lx470. Here is the scangauge code i used as well as the Torque codes I built using the calculator recs online. Let me know what these codes do and if they work.

I hope this works. I was reading 115 deg on sensor 1 and varying from 77 to 250 on sensor. Will have more info when driving later today. This was just trying in driveway after returning from church.

Scangauge:
TXD: 686AF121B4
RXF: 046105B40000
RXD: 2808
MTH: 00090005FFD8

Torque (maybe 2 sensors):
Sensor 1
OBD2 mode: 21B4
Name: Transmission Temp 1
Short name: TFT 1
Min value: 0
Max value: 300
scale factor: x1
Equation: A*(9/5)-38
OBD Headed: leave blank

Sensor 2
OBD2 mode: 21B4
Name: Transmission Temp 2
Short name: TFT 2
Min value: 0
Max value: 300
scale factor: x1
Equation: B*(9/5)-38
OBD Headed: leave blank

 

[THEIZZARDKING]

To each its own I need simple Admitting I dont understand 1/2 of your terminology. But I do know I get the info I need from Scangauge and have for 10 years. Any issue I have had I drop by and they update and program anything available. I do agree Scangauge is somewhat limited or what it can display, I use an Ultra gauge when I need fuel trim, O2 senors readings and the likes.

lol, to be honest, i don't really know what i am talking about either, just like the rest of us in life, i'm just stumbling through the dark and trying to feel my way through it, lol.

yeah and what you are saying is the true value in the scan gauge, and why i don't feel right just converting their codes...that's a personal thing though....to me, the $120 or so dollars a scan gauge costs isn't just for the cheesy LCD display, it's for all of this work that i'm doing now in trying to figure out all of the PIDs for my vehicle...like i said, i had one before and i get why your a fan, lol...

Didn't someone post the formula for creating the trans temp in the 100 series a year or two ago? IIRC there was a post on that.

they did, and i believe it's one of the ones i quoted above...

 

[LandCruiserPhil]

This inmate figured some PID's out on both Torque and Scanguage. The TFT scanguage code works in my 05.

Added note- You need to be current with your Scangauge firmware for the trans code to work per Scangauge

 

[THEIZZARDKING]

This inmate figured some PID's out on both Torque and Scanguage. The TFT scanguage code works in my 05.

from my post above yours.

*very* interesting information...
Guide: Converting ScanGauge Codes to Torque Pro PIDs - Toyota Tundra Forums : Tundra Solutions Forum

relative link to above.
» X-Gauge Categories » TOYOTA – LEXUS – SCION

that said, im going to copy your data into teh post above so it's altogether on page 1 for other mudders. thanks bud!

i also assume this is for an '05?