I hit a local trail yesterday, need to get out more.
What did you do with your bike this weekend?
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Meshal
SILVER Star
Okay, I quote has been paid to rebuild my surly for Chicago.
303s are coming soon.
Sooooon i m going to move my AXX
303s are coming soon.
Sooooon i m going to move my AXX
I go through 12 speed chains too quickly. I don't replace them every 3 months as routine maintenance items, so when they get tired they wear my chain ring and cassette such that none of them should be reused. It gets expensive replacing them everything every 9 months or so. Plus, 12 speed systems are very sensitive to derailleur hanger alignment (my riding style is more James Harden than Stephen Curry).
So I searched for jailbreak hacks of Di2 and AXS systems to allow me to remap the shifting tables to run 9 or 10 speed. Nothing. But there are customizable wireless electronic shifting systems out there, just not from Shimano or SRAM.
I'm going to try one. I bought a Wheeltop EDS OX2.0 set that supposedly will run anything from 3 to 14 gears. I'm going to run it 1X on a Shimano 10-speed cassette. Wish me luck. I will report back once it's installed and tested.
So I searched for jailbreak hacks of Di2 and AXS systems to allow me to remap the shifting tables to run 9 or 10 speed. Nothing. But there are customizable wireless electronic shifting systems out there, just not from Shimano or SRAM.
I'm going to try one. I bought a Wheeltop EDS OX2.0 set that supposedly will run anything from 3 to 14 gears. I'm going to run it 1X on a Shimano 10-speed cassette. Wish me luck. I will report back once it's installed and tested.
Meshal
SILVER Star
Still no rides but it is going to be out sooooon
Meshal, North of where your Chicago stomping grounds is the Fox River Trail. Years ago (kidos were small) we enjoyed the trail and it might be a fun change of pace when you are out & about. Have fun
Experiment is over. BB shell on the starboard side gave up its threads when I removed BB for replacement. RIP Shenzhen experiment.
The $700 (frame) Shenzhen Experiment performed as well as the Epic Evo, but it died at 1660.4 documented miles. Very, very hard, neglectful miles. It's close, but I'm gonna call it a fail.
So, the Wheeltop EDS OX2.0
$339.00 from Aliexpress. Nicely packaged.
R Der was not charged, so I had to juice it. It has a magnetic "plug" for charging. The other end plugs into a USB slot, so a phone charger wall unit (not included) or a computer with power USB slot (also not included) will be needed. The location of the charging plug is on the spoke side of the battery housing, under a rubber cover.
(Pointing to the rubber cover seen in the preceding foto)
The charging contacts look like the same pogo pins SRAM uses on the derailleur housing. The battery does not appear to be easily removable, so there won't be any swap-outs for a charged battery.
Weighs slightly more than the XO AXS it is replacing. Not enough to notice.
$339.00 from Aliexpress. Nicely packaged.
R Der was not charged, so I had to juice it. It has a magnetic "plug" for charging. The other end plugs into a USB slot, so a phone charger wall unit (not included) or a computer with power USB slot (also not included) will be needed. The location of the charging plug is on the spoke side of the battery housing, under a rubber cover.
(Pointing to the rubber cover seen in the preceding foto)
The charging contacts look like the same pogo pins SRAM uses on the derailleur housing. The battery does not appear to be easily removable, so there won't be any swap-outs for a charged battery.
Weighs slightly more than the XO AXS it is replacing. Not enough to notice.
Here are all the goodies for 10-speed wireless electronic shifting.
The setup is where 75% of the people on this forum will be disappointed. I'm talking about the guys who lose their shnit when their built-when-ordered center console hasn't been delivered in 2 weeks by the one-man shop they ordered from. The setup is more 2008 Megasquirt than 2022 Holley Sniper. If it doesn't work you're gonna have to figure it out for yourself. There's no calling tech support like your father-in-law does when he can't figure out how to put the ruler back at the top of the document in Word.
As far as physical mounting goes, it's just a derailleur. Screw it onto the hanger. Looks goofy, like all rear derailleurs with battery bumps.
But then you have to deal with the app to set it up. It gives you options from 3-speed through 14-speed. The app has pre-sets for speeds 10 through 13 for Shimano spacing. Anything else has to be manually configured. At least that's what I assume: since I was using 10 speed I did not actually set up any of the speeds that were not preconfigured.
I set my small cog limit screw, installed the chain, selected "10-speed" on the app, and began the app's initial configuration process. You configure for position one: the small cog. This part was pretty easy and self-explanatory. If you want the derailleur to move towards the spokes, you press the left micro-adjust button. If you want to micro-adjust it away from the spokes, you push the right button.
For the pre-configured speeds, you should be done with the setup once the chain runs smoothly on the small cog. You should be able to shift through the gears all the way to the largest cog, where you can set your big cog adjust screw so that your chain doesn't fly into the spokes. Actually, you should stop a cog short and set your B-tension before you do that.
If it had only been that easy for me. The first two shifts after adjusting for the small cog were smooth, the next one rattled, the one after that skipped a cog, and all hell pretty much broke loose for the rest. I fiddled and fussed with it for about 10 minutes, which is about five times my patience limit when adjusting a rear derailleur. If after more than 2 minutes I haven't been able to get a derailleur to shift properly, I step away for a while and figure out what I messed up. These aren't Raptor rocket engines, and they're designed to be easily adjusted by bike mechmonkeys like me. But here I was after 10 minutes and the thing was just awful. So I said, "Pfuck this Chinese shnit!" drank a beer, smoked a Camel and beat my wife.
That was 3 days ago. Her bruises have faded to yellow and green now, and I had a minute to spend in the shop today. Still absolute rubbish shifting. It did not self-cure by me ignoring it for 3 days. But I noticed that it was behaving like mismatched shifters/derailleurs that sometimes used to come into the bike shop back in the day. You know, like a 10 speed der with a 9-speed cog?
So I went back into the app and selected the preconfigured 11-speed Shimano setup. Bingo. Shifts like a dream ... on a 10-speed cogset (as I recall, Shimano 10 and 11 had the same spacing. I could be wrong. It's been a minute. Which makes me think the OX2.0’s "10 speed" pre-set actually uses 9-speed spacing even though it does have 10 clicks . . . ). Note that this makes a properly-set spoke-side limit screw very important: the system thinks it has one more shift when it is in the big cog. It tries to make the shift if you push the button, but the limit screw stops the derailleur from putting the chain in the spokes. I took a video of a perfectly smooth, sweet-shifting wireless 10-speed setup. Success. (But I don't know how to make the video play on Mud)
Now it's time to put some miles on it and see how it does over the long haul. I will report back, sans offensive domestic abuse jokes
The setup is where 75% of the people on this forum will be disappointed. I'm talking about the guys who lose their shnit when their built-when-ordered center console hasn't been delivered in 2 weeks by the one-man shop they ordered from. The setup is more 2008 Megasquirt than 2022 Holley Sniper. If it doesn't work you're gonna have to figure it out for yourself. There's no calling tech support like your father-in-law does when he can't figure out how to put the ruler back at the top of the document in Word.
As far as physical mounting goes, it's just a derailleur. Screw it onto the hanger. Looks goofy, like all rear derailleurs with battery bumps.
But then you have to deal with the app to set it up. It gives you options from 3-speed through 14-speed. The app has pre-sets for speeds 10 through 13 for Shimano spacing. Anything else has to be manually configured. At least that's what I assume: since I was using 10 speed I did not actually set up any of the speeds that were not preconfigured.
I set my small cog limit screw, installed the chain, selected "10-speed" on the app, and began the app's initial configuration process. You configure for position one: the small cog. This part was pretty easy and self-explanatory. If you want the derailleur to move towards the spokes, you press the left micro-adjust button. If you want to micro-adjust it away from the spokes, you push the right button.
For the pre-configured speeds, you should be done with the setup once the chain runs smoothly on the small cog. You should be able to shift through the gears all the way to the largest cog, where you can set your big cog adjust screw so that your chain doesn't fly into the spokes. Actually, you should stop a cog short and set your B-tension before you do that.
If it had only been that easy for me. The first two shifts after adjusting for the small cog were smooth, the next one rattled, the one after that skipped a cog, and all hell pretty much broke loose for the rest. I fiddled and fussed with it for about 10 minutes, which is about five times my patience limit when adjusting a rear derailleur. If after more than 2 minutes I haven't been able to get a derailleur to shift properly, I step away for a while and figure out what I messed up. These aren't Raptor rocket engines, and they're designed to be easily adjusted by bike mechmonkeys like me. But here I was after 10 minutes and the thing was just awful. So I said, "Pfuck this Chinese shnit!" drank a beer, smoked a Camel and beat my wife.
That was 3 days ago. Her bruises have faded to yellow and green now, and I had a minute to spend in the shop today. Still absolute rubbish shifting. It did not self-cure by me ignoring it for 3 days. But I noticed that it was behaving like mismatched shifters/derailleurs that sometimes used to come into the bike shop back in the day. You know, like a 10 speed der with a 9-speed cog?
So I went back into the app and selected the preconfigured 11-speed Shimano setup. Bingo. Shifts like a dream ... on a 10-speed cogset (as I recall, Shimano 10 and 11 had the same spacing. I could be wrong. It's been a minute. Which makes me think the OX2.0’s "10 speed" pre-set actually uses 9-speed spacing even though it does have 10 clicks . . . ). Note that this makes a properly-set spoke-side limit screw very important: the system thinks it has one more shift when it is in the big cog. It tries to make the shift if you push the button, but the limit screw stops the derailleur from putting the chain in the spokes. I took a video of a perfectly smooth, sweet-shifting wireless 10-speed setup. Success. (But I don't know how to make the video play on Mud)
Now it's time to put some miles on it and see how it does over the long haul. I will report back, sans offensive domestic abuse jokes
I committed a crime against humanity. I JB-welded the drive side BB cup into the Epic-E-faux Shenzhen Experiment. I mean, what? I'm gonna ruin it? lol. Also, I painted it yellow so that I will (hopefully) stop and ask, "Why is that painted yellow?" before dislocating a joint trying to get it off.
Meshal
SILVER Star
So a hip shop in Chicago did this midnight beauty. But was all my choices. I decided to go with more SRAM BUT also with some of Wolf Tooth gears.
So I came from Savannah flat fast rides. I wasn’t that fast but it was all road biking with all whites except one black guy. them late 2019 people picked up the gravel bikes so i went steel. i used it for real low even after covid in saudi.
so this time i rebuilt it with 700 zipp wheels, 303 XPLRs
And because power meters are just sexy and nice to have, I got the best integrated Sram Force but replaced the ring with one from Wolf Tooth so it matches the 11 one by Force derailer. and those padel also Woolf Tooth, DEL.
I haven’t like the Surly fork at all, so the shop recommended the Salsa fork and it was great
I went drop even though i was planning to flat this shxt out. I may convert later
So I came from Savannah flat fast rides. I wasn’t that fast but it was all road biking with all whites except one black guy. them late 2019 people picked up the gravel bikes so i went steel. i used it for real low even after covid in saudi.
so this time i rebuilt it with 700 zipp wheels, 303 XPLRs
And because power meters are just sexy and nice to have, I got the best integrated Sram Force but replaced the ring with one from Wolf Tooth so it matches the 11 one by Force derailer. and those padel also Woolf Tooth, DEL.
I haven’t like the Surly fork at all, so the shop recommended the Salsa fork and it was great
I went drop even though i was planning to flat this shxt out. I may convert later
Meshal
SILVER Star
Once i get in shape, I'm considering visiting AZ to ride with you.
Cmon on down. We have outstanding riding, Meshal. Spare bedroom ready— goes for any MUDders who want to come down and ride.
I got rid of the press-fit (PF) BB on my old Stumpy which was misaligned and creaking.
Went with a Praxis two-piece threaded M30 Thru BB30 setup.
Now it is soooo smooth and quiet.
I made a few bearing press tools to get everything apart and back together.
Now I just need to clean my bike.
![PXL_20260526_230509972[1].webp](https://forum.ih8mud.com/attachments/pxl_20260526_230509972-1-webp.4147514/ "PXL_20260526_230509972[1].webp")
Went with a Praxis two-piece threaded M30 Thru BB30 setup.
Now it is soooo smooth and quiet.
I made a few bearing press tools to get everything apart and back together.
Now I just need to clean my bike.
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