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So here’s an issue that may be common but is strange to search for.

1997

When it’s time to start the truck if I just turn the key and start the engine will make a horrid screaming sound. Never popped out to listen, but very “fan belt squeal” in sounding. But louder.

Now if I turn the key to “on” and wait 5 seconds and then start, no squeal.

I can just keep doing the wait 5 seconds. But the “why?” Is driving me nuts. Any thoughts?
 
Is it diesel?
 
I had a banshee under the bonnet - turned out to be the bendix on the starter motor. Replaced starter motor and all nice and quiet.

The banshee only came to life while cranking to start.

cheers,
george.
 
Anytime so far.
I wonder what would happen if you were to put power directly to the starter signal terminal. Maybe with the key off, then on?
 
If the sound is a very loud metallic grinding screech = starter pinion gear not extending (or retracting) properly with the flex plate teeth, IME.

Post up a video/audio of the sound.
 
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I’ll try and get a video of it this weekend. I’m wondering how that would impact just leaving the key in the on position for a few seconds.
 
It can damage the pinion gear of the starter and also the teeth on the flex plate, so if that is the cause you want to fix it sooner rather than later IMHO.


The photo below shows the clutch assembly from inside the starter. The toothed gear on the right is the pinion gear that extends outward to engage the
teeth of the flex plate. If the pinion gear shaft (located in the center of the clutch assy) does not extend or retract properly the teeth (pinion gear and flex plate) can grind against each other causing damage to either or both, IME.


FZJ80 starter clutch assembly.webp



The next photo shows the clutch partially disassembled with pinion shaft pulled out to reveal the small bits.
Note the long return spring around the shaft and the shorter spring to the right that fits inside the pinion gear gear.
If either of those springs or any other component is broken, weak, damaged, or missing, then the pinion
shaft may not extend or retract properly:

FZJ80 starter clutch assembly parts.webp



Worse case scenario if you knock off a bunch of teeth on the flex plate you could then have dead spots ie: if the engine stopped where the missing teeth on the flex plate were lined up with the starter pinion gear, then the next time you went to start the engine the pinion gear might not have anything to grab a hold of. The result might be that the starter pinion gear (that should extend and retract out while it cranks the engine) would just spin/grind but the engine might not crank (start).

Here's a previous thread discussing a loud noise when cranking/starting the engine:

 
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The solenoid plunger is what pushes out the Bendix and engages the drive gear of the starter. First thing I would do is make sure the bore of the solenoid is clean and has a little bit of a lightweight grease in it.
 
Agree, all the above, basically remove the starter from the vehicle and examine it, check the movement of the pinion shaft and gear, check the contacts and plunger contact surfaces, ---- You could also take it to an auto parts store that can run a function test on their starter/alternator tester and see what they find.
 
I think (need to test some more) I traced this to a bad idler pulley for the alt/WP belt. It was kinda locked up and would drag and cause some belt squeal is the idea.

Factory replacement on the way. Running without it for now - I actually don’t need the necessity for it except to make keep the belts from getting sloppy over that distance.

More to follow. Not in the mood to pull the starter now if I don’t have to!
 
I think (need to test some more) I traced this to a bad idler pulley for the alt/WP belt. It was kinda locked up and would drag and cause some belt squeal is the idea.

Factory replacement on the way. Running without it for now - I actually don’t need the necessity for it except to make keep the belts from getting sloppy over that distance.

More to follow. Not in the mood to pull the starter now if I don’t have to!
yes mine had the same sound and the new pulley fixed it.
 
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