It’s insane! Now the ultimate pressure is on to win next weekend for the full sweep!
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Anyone else follow Uncle Cycling/Cycling Toons?
If so, do you know wtf he's talking about half the time? Dude cracks me up even though I don't get a lot of his insider jokes
If so, do you know wtf he's talking about half the time? Dude cracks me up even though I don't get a lot of his insider jokes
Great Liege-Bastogne-Liege. Looks like Pogi has a clear challenger to his supremacy with the kid Sexias.
But man is it obvious that Pogi is still that much better than everyone in the peloton.
But man is it obvious that Pogi is still that much better than everyone in the peloton.
I know a lot of the cyclists here on MUD have engaged/seen the Ponzi scheme constructed by the Armstrong years….and the shĩtshow that came out of it.
That said, do you all think that Pogacar is indeed on something? Is he juiced? Or is he the Six Million Dollar Man?
As a newbie to professional road cycling, all I see is the Michael Jordan of cycling. IE: everyone knows he’s going to get the ball at the last minute and he is going to score and win the game. I grew up in the 1980s/1990s and I watched MJ develop in to his dominance. The 4 years of Piston dominance that crushed him physically and psychologically. Those games were legendary; still are.
And it was beautiful to watch and no one ever questioned MJs veracity for the sport. He was a killer. He made sure everyone knew who dominated the sport. I see Pogacar this way.
The ultimate killer. The person no one can defeat because he is that much better. And more importantly, no one can question because he is that dominant. Watching him in Strade Bianche… when he glides away and the purity of his pedaling is on display. Do people think he is doping in that moment?
Or on any attack he does in the stage races where he glides away when it counts? That’s MJ-esque.
So…. Is he the 6 million dollar man? Or, just the best at what he does?
Discuss, friends. As we enter into Grand Tour season.
That said, do you all think that Pogacar is indeed on something? Is he juiced? Or is he the Six Million Dollar Man?
As a newbie to professional road cycling, all I see is the Michael Jordan of cycling. IE: everyone knows he’s going to get the ball at the last minute and he is going to score and win the game. I grew up in the 1980s/1990s and I watched MJ develop in to his dominance. The 4 years of Piston dominance that crushed him physically and psychologically. Those games were legendary; still are.
And it was beautiful to watch and no one ever questioned MJs veracity for the sport. He was a killer. He made sure everyone knew who dominated the sport. I see Pogacar this way.
The ultimate killer. The person no one can defeat because he is that much better. And more importantly, no one can question because he is that dominant. Watching him in Strade Bianche… when he glides away and the purity of his pedaling is on display. Do people think he is doping in that moment?
Or on any attack he does in the stage races where he glides away when it counts? That’s MJ-esque.
So…. Is he the 6 million dollar man? Or, just the best at what he does?
Discuss, friends. As we enter into Grand Tour season.
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I think he is legitimate. I have nothing to base this on. I just simply want to believe in something good and honest in this world.
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I want to believe because it's so inspiring and awesome how he rides. But every time I believe, I'm later deflated as all these TDF riders who have monstrous break outs end up being caught doping, or just happen to have convenient medical stories why banned substances keep showing up on their blood tests.
So, now I'm just a cynic. They're all juicing and I stopped watching the TDF. I'll read a bit here and there, but no emotions attached.
Too bad, because I love competitive cycling...
Doped
First as tragedy, second as farce. (Karl M). Pogacar rides for UAE, the direct descendant of Saunier Duval-Prodir. The circumstantial case is compelling (power only the dopiest of dopers ever achieved, accelerating all the way up 45 minute climbs ... after 4 hours at 48kph,* carbon monoxide rebreathing [yep, legal-ish but he did it], peaked for every race in the season, etc.), but cycling knows it cannot take another doping hit, so there will never be a positive test or an admission or a stored B sample tested a decade later when detection has caught up with the state of the art. He's adorable, charismatic and attractive. You want to believe because you like the guy. (I'm fully gay for him, like the rest of you). Or you want to believe because no one really goes for the underdog. Pfuck David: Goliath (or MJ, Tyson, Mahomes, or the totally non-doped Bernard Hinault) is where it's at! And look at what pro cycling has become: it's a league pro sport now like the NFL, that sport where there aren't any steroids, anywhere, and we know that because no one is testing positive for them. WHOOP cross country, sponsored by Michelin, Monster Energy, Scott, Motul and Shimano and brought to you by Warner Bros Discovery. Even UCI, the "governing body" of all cycling, is captured by and beholden to the industry. Pogacar is a marketing miracle who every person in the industry benefits from and has an interest in perpetuating. But they don't call him the Alien for nothing.
* Even superheroes blow up. One thing I'll say in Pogi's favor is that his attacks generally are not explosive. If there's a way to attack and not pop, he's doing it right, imo. That's how attacks were done by Jan Ullr-- oh never mind.
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Obvs I'm a total cynic, too. But I still follow, watch, and play (i.e., buy, ride, and enjoy the sport) for the same reason I read good fiction, want Wemby to win 7 or 8 rings and binge-watched both seasons of Fallout last week: It's pretty f'n good entertainment.
Well: Dauphine starts today.
Jonas wiped out the Giro as if it was a training ride. He made that shït look easy.
I’m actually pretty excited about the Tour. I think Pogi might have some legit competition.
Jonas wiped out the Giro as if it was a training ride. He made that shït look easy.
I’m actually pretty excited about the Tour. I think Pogi might have some legit competition.
Machine! I thought PFP would disrupt, but she seems more or less to have disappeared.
Soooo…
Pogi did an ITT 70KMs out on Stage 1 of Tour de Suisse.
Literally walked away from the intermediate sprint and caught the front of race and blew by him and won over Carapaz by 2+ minutes.
The rest of the peloton was 4+ mins behind. It was a hot race. Pogi took every water bottle available to him and poured it over his head.
There were moments when the moto was filming him and he’s coasting for well over a mile without even pedaling…. He was watching the country side as it passed by at 40-50 KMPH.
He made a stage win of a very difficult stage race look like a coffee ride.
So everyone is saying he’s fücking juiced;
I’m convinced that the modern sport of cycling is an utterly scientific endeavor now and he is the result of sport science— IE: they picked him and said we can make him the 6 million dollar man.
Metaphor or simile?
Regardless, his grace on a bike is otherworldly.
He looked so good winning today. And always humble in thanking McNulty, Wellens, Narvaez, and all of them are super happy because the monetary bonuses are very nice and they can continue living in Andorr or Nice or Arles, etc
McNulty trains in SoAz in the off season. We see him a lot down here and he a very nice young man (fùcking 27).
It’s obvious that he is from another planet. My friend Mark and I were riding on the road down by us (albeit we were both on fixed gear bikes)… and McNulty blew by us as if we were road obstacles. It was McNulty and friend and they said hi and were cruising.
We stopped and chatted with him a bit in Sonoita when they stopped to get picked up by their support vehicle and just looking at him …. Sinuous body, tall, lanky, ugly, and I said “yeah, I can see Pogi hiding behind you to win.”
They are on another planet, they are from another planet. Utter mutants.
Pogi did an ITT 70KMs out on Stage 1 of Tour de Suisse.
Literally walked away from the intermediate sprint and caught the front of race and blew by him and won over Carapaz by 2+ minutes.
The rest of the peloton was 4+ mins behind. It was a hot race. Pogi took every water bottle available to him and poured it over his head.
There were moments when the moto was filming him and he’s coasting for well over a mile without even pedaling…. He was watching the country side as it passed by at 40-50 KMPH.
He made a stage win of a very difficult stage race look like a coffee ride.
So everyone is saying he’s fücking juiced;
I’m convinced that the modern sport of cycling is an utterly scientific endeavor now and he is the result of sport science— IE: they picked him and said we can make him the 6 million dollar man.
Metaphor or simile?
Regardless, his grace on a bike is otherworldly.
He looked so good winning today. And always humble in thanking McNulty, Wellens, Narvaez, and all of them are super happy because the monetary bonuses are very nice and they can continue living in Andorr or Nice or Arles, etc
McNulty trains in SoAz in the off season. We see him a lot down here and he a very nice young man (fùcking 27).
It’s obvious that he is from another planet. My friend Mark and I were riding on the road down by us (albeit we were both on fixed gear bikes)… and McNulty blew by us as if we were road obstacles. It was McNulty and friend and they said hi and were cruising.
We stopped and chatted with him a bit in Sonoita when they stopped to get picked up by their support vehicle and just looking at him …. Sinuous body, tall, lanky, ugly, and I said “yeah, I can see Pogi hiding behind you to win.”
They are on another planet, they are from another planet. Utter mutants.
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Well, they are definitely super athletes on a highly regimented training/nutrition program. Sadly, imo, they're still super fast juicers that science/regulators haven't caught up with.
Cynical, I know...
Probably true. And we won’t find out for a number of years.
That said: I’m holding out hope like the idea of believing in an omniscient deity.
At least, Pogi is a human.
Must be so demoralizing to race against him. Beast
In the moto footage when Pogi broke from the group and is picking off the breakaway riders one at a time, he passes Swiss national champion rider Mauro Schmid and as Pogi passes by, Schmid gives him the “check ya later” wave. It’s funny but also emblematic of what everyone knows…
Here’s the clip:
Encapsulates all of it pretty succinctly.
All of his domestiques win GCs….
He’s obviously on another planet for the Tour.