The point that you said it NEVER happened, that is all.
Fire Spurrier, ya'll don't like him anyway, fess up, you know it.
Jeremy
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The point that you said it NEVER happened, that is all.
Fire Spurrier, ya'll don't like him anyway, fess up, you know it.
Jeremy
Alright, everyone read:
http://www.dailygamecock.com/viewpoints/auburn-hospitality-sets-standards-1.1648337
Oh, and I'll be a Clemson fan this coming weekend b/c Miami blows! I'll be an SC fan the next weekend b/c need I say more, they're playing those obnoxious Bamers.
http://www.dailygamecock.com/viewpoints/auburn-hospitality-sets-standards-1.1648337
Oh, and I'll be a Clemson fan this coming weekend b/c Miami blows! I'll be an SC fan the next weekend b/c need I say more, they're playing those obnoxious Bamers.
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LSU was a mid class SEC ranked team in 2000, so in 2001 they were not the "bottom feeder" school. They are not year in and and year out worst team in the SEC. Quite frankly LSU is usually one of the top schools to beat in the SEC west and their NC a few years back is proof of that. They did beat a higher ranked TN team for the SEC championship but they are not in any way shape or form able to be compared to Wake. You don't look at LSU with their school history and think "wow this is the first time these guys have been in this situation"
Wake is a bottom feeder school...it would be like Vandy winning an SEC chapmionship game or S.Car winning the SEC championship game after their winless '99 season.
As far as Spurrier goes. The guy can recruit, i don't always agree with the way he recruits (i think he should push more for bigger/faster O/D linemen) and i don't always like the calls he makes during the game, especially with the QB's.
but fact is, he has a winning record at S.Carolina.
He has taken us to more bowl games than any other coach in S.Carolina history.
We have beaten Clemson twice in his time at S.Carolina
We have beaten Florida, Georgia and Tenn since his arrival at S.Carolina
He has won more games quicker than any other team in S.Car history.
He gets us on ESPN! His ties to Florida and other schools dislike for him because of his ties to Florida we have more rivals now than ever before. The fact that the games we play against big schools like Bama, Tenn, Ga and Fla have been known to have a final winning score by a TD or less and it really helps us out with the big network coverage.
Darth Visor wins games for us. I'm still waiting for some 8-10 win seasons from him.
This season looks like it could be that year!
and hopefully a 9 win season will be enough for us to make it to the SEC championship game this year! Back in '01 it wasn't!..mabye that was '00...either way...it will be huge for us!
Denial is more than just a river in Egypt my friend. You think USuC was only a bottom feeder SEC school in 99'. You have been a bottom-feeder school in the SEC ever since you joined in 92'
I hope you do beat Bama, and Kentucky so you'll be ranked in the top 10 and get beat by your bottom-feeder brethren Vanderbilt again to show you what you really are. Over-hyped as usuall. Ranked #6 and got beat 17-6, by Vandy, ouch. It made their year though I am sure, and I believe that was 07'. Wasn't your golden boy coaching then, and you finished what 6-6? Same year Kentucky was over-ranked when you beat them.
And he can thank Holtz for that winning record. If he had to inherit the crap Holtz did in 99' he would be under .500 too.
Jeremy
I hope you do beat Bama, and Kentucky so you'll be ranked in the top 10 and get beat by your bottom-feeder brethren Vanderbilt again to show you what you really are. Over-hyped as usuall. Ranked #6 and got beat 17-6, by Vandy, ouch. It made their year though I am sure, and I believe that was 07'. Wasn't your golden boy coaching then, and you finished what 6-6? Same year Kentucky was over-ranked when you beat them.
And he can thank Holtz for that winning record. If he had to inherit the crap Holtz did in 99' he would be under .500 too.
Jeremy
the season spurrier came in alot of player were kicked off the team including our best running back! We still did well
a 6-6 season in '07 is not bad considering that 4 of the last 5 NC teams have come from the SEC...and that IS our competition.
I'd rather play in a tough conference and be average than play in a crap shoot conference and be the best smelling terd lolz
The point you don't get is that you are not average in your conference. You make my point for me, 4 of the 5 last NC were from the SEC, the average is to hold at least 1 NC in the SEC, you are not average in the SEC, you are 10-12 at best my friend. So I guess you meant to say I would rather be a bottom-feeder in the SEC than be average in the ACC.
Everyone in the SEC has a NC except, Miss. State, USuC, and Vandy. Bottom-feeder.
Jeremy
Everyone in the SEC has a NC except, Miss. State, USuC, and Vandy. Bottom-feeder.
Jeremy
It must still sting like heck to remember that the so called bottom feeder drug
CU's "D" up and down the field with 58 running plays in that butt whupping last year.
34-17 and the score doesn't reflect the mauling that we all saw.
If USC is a bottom feeder....what does that make CU?
Tallest midget in the Midget leagues. Oh..excuse me CU ain't even the tallest midget.
CU hasn't won SQUAT since FSU came into the ACC.
Heck Wake Forest has done more than CU.
Pitiful.
BELMONT148;5929988 If he had to inherit the crap Holtz did in 99' he would be under .500 too. Jeremy[/QUOTE said:
how does not having a NC make you not average?
Your method of ranking/grouping teams into a certian catigory makes no sense to me...first you claim VT a powerhouse that turns around and loses to who whas it...Marshall?
Then you compare LSU to Wake as both being bottom feeders?
The accumulated record of wins/losses at the end of the season is what give you your ranking...not how many championships you've accumulated over the years.
If thats the case Clemson needs to give back it's NC because with todays BCS rankings system...the ACC does not have a chance at NC appearance let alone a trophy.
South Carolina records/rankings for the past nine years.
2000 5-3 sec record 2nd in ranking
2001 5-3 sec record 3rd in ranking
2002 3-5 sec record 4th in ranking
2003 2-6 sec record 4th in ranking
2004 4-4 sec record 3rd in ranking
2005 5-3 can't find
2006 3-5 can't find
2007 3-5 can't find
2008 4-4 4th in rankings
2009 3-5 4th in rankings
in the last 10 years we have been a middle pack SEC...our records put us pretty much in the middle.
again...would rather be a middle pack SEC team than at the top of the steamy pile that makes up the ACC. ACC plays basketball, not football.
don't forget some big upsets against a #10 Georgia, #25 Tenn, #12 Florida, #12 Georgia, #8 Kentucky, #4 Ole Miss. (we've also upset a ranked Clemson and Virgina team but those don't matter right?)
The reason everytime you turn around S.Car is on ESPN is because we play big teams and more often than not the final score is decided by a TD or less. Just ask Georgia or Tenn how well they like playing the new S.Carolina...it's cost Phulmer a job!
We are no longer a team that is an SEC push over. Granted we win more games with big D than Spurreirs old fun-n-gun offense. A win is a win!
having a stadium that is ranked 25th in the country as hardest to play in is also helpful!
well since we've owned you 65-38-4 that would make us atleast a mid-level SEC team...... must make you feel pretty good being a big bad SEC school and getting owned by a mediocre ACC school
Heck if you were smart you would talk Clemson up instead of down since if we are as pathetic as you say it only speaks very poorly of you seeing we have almost a 30 game advantage on you
in the last 10 years we have been a middle pack SEC...our records put us pretty much in the middle.
again...would rather be a middle pack SEC team than at the top of the steamy pile that makes up the ACC. ACC plays basketball, not football.
And I believe your record against clemson during the same past decade was 7-3 in Clemsons favor.....
That is pretty impressive for a middle of the pack SEC team..... you guys really have been sticking it to the ole ACC as of late
given your record against Clemson you certianly wouldn't be atop of the "steamy pile" that makes up the ACC
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What are you talking about? That was my point, Scott left Holtz with nothing when he took over in 99', hence the 11 losses. If Spurrier would have come in to that train wreck, he wouldn't have a winning record. He ain't that great is all I am saying.
Jeremy
I never compared LSU to Wake, you said when was the last time a low ranked SEC team won the SEC Championship. I simply answered your reply.
I never said VT was a powerhouse of the ACC, they are a good solid team, that has the record to prove it. Even great teams have down years, just ask your Bulldogs that you claim is such a powerhouse SEC team.
Anything can happen on any given Saturday, what happened last Saturday was pretty funny.
Your hype this year is definitely making watching the Gamecocks lose that much more fun. And this years Palmetto Bowl should be great!
According to you I guess we don't have a chance in hell in winning this Saturday, huh?
Jeremy
I never said VT was a powerhouse of the ACC, they are a good solid team, that has the record to prove it. Even great teams have down years, just ask your Bulldogs that you claim is such a powerhouse SEC team.
Anything can happen on any given Saturday, what happened last Saturday was pretty funny.
Your hype this year is definitely making watching the Gamecocks lose that much more fun. And this years Palmetto Bowl should be great!
According to you I guess we don't have a chance in hell in winning this Saturday, huh?
Jeremy
Let's compare our decade to yours if you want to talk about big wins:
01' #9 GT
03' #3 FSU
04' #6 Tenn.
04' #10 Miami
05' #17 A&M
06' #13 GT
07' #19 FSU
09' #8 Miami
That's 5 Top 10 wins in the last 9 years. Oh and I think a 7-2 record against your middle-pack SEC team.
Jeremy
Jeremy
01' #9 GT
03' #3 FSU
04' #6 Tenn.
04' #10 Miami
05' #17 A&M
06' #13 GT
07' #19 FSU
09' #8 Miami
That's 5 Top 10 wins in the last 9 years. Oh and I think a 7-2 record against your middle-pack SEC team.
Jeremy
Jeremy
How is a top seated SEC west LSU team the lowest on the SEC rankings?
LSU was not the lowest ranking SEC team that year coming into the season, LSU was not the lowest ranking SEC team the year before. They were not a bottom feeder school.
Wake is very commonly found at the bottom of the ACC rankings. They are very commonly last place in ACC rankings.
They crawled out of the sludge and played just well enough to win the ACC chapmionship.
LSU (although ranked lesser in the polls) was not in last place, had not been in last place in who knows win and was not anywhere near last place in any of the conference rankings.
Again...your comparison of Wake to LSU is apples to oranges.
No bottom seat SEC team has ever come back to win the SEC championship. Stregenth of Conference
As for S. Carolinas perfomance against Clemson...there is no excuse. We've had more talent and a better team with better wins for seasons on end. Our biggest issue is player not playing hard. They loose track of the game and have more interest in going pro than playing hard those last few games of the season.
This problem has been a huge issue in the Spurrier era.
Tides are changing and you can see it in the attitude of Clemson fans. We are getting better recruits, bigger wins and the fans are expecting more from the schools perfomance.
Don't forget...our top ten wins...against SEC teams...not the ACC win where you climb to the top of the rankings ladder because your a big fish in a little pond.
With Clemsons cupcake scheduel you should be ashamed with anything other than an 8-9 win season.
I've got to hand it to Miami, they played real out of conference teams. If i was you i'd be thankful of those teams becaue they are the only ones getting national attention for your conference. Other than a few star players here and there, the conference doesn't have much to brag about.
Guess I misunderstood your term of ranking as it gets thrown around from AP to SEC to ACC "rankings".
Agree to disagree, pick a new topic.
Jeremy
Agree to disagree, pick a new topic.
Jeremy
You think Pitt is a REAL out of conference team? You really are smoking something.
I don't even have to mention S. Florida or Florida A&M. What REAL teams are you talking about, just Ohio State?
Jeremy
I don't even have to mention S. Florida or Florida A&M. What REAL teams are you talking about, just Ohio State?
Jeremy
you are correct, i was pointing out that no one has been able to climb from last place to the top of the SEC. as we all know the AP sometimes tells the story of conference rankings..other times...it's not very close.
and pick on Georgia this year
their losses have been to a VERY good S.Carolina and an equally good Arkansas team.
neither team is going to be a walk in the park this year.
their losses have been to a VERY good S.Carolina and an equally good Arkansas team.
neither team is going to be a walk in the park this year.