saginaw vs fj60 Psteering

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Ok, thanks all. I appreciate the help.
 
Boy I've had several different types of power steering on various 55's I've owned, driven daily and rode the trails with.The easiest way is to use a steering box from a solid axle 4Runner/truck. Using one of the readily available mounts makes this a bolt in installation- no mods needed to either the steering arm or the steering column. This is a good setup with up to 33" tires with any rubber bigger than that I'd do something else. The only real drawback about using the mini truck/4Runner box is that it retains the steering pivot.
On the orange and white truck in my avatar I ran a mini truck box until we sprung her over and went to 35's. At that time we installed an FJ62 box and got rid of the steering pivot in the front corner of the frame. Used Lke's high steer arms and steering arms and that truck was perfect. Good fell, went straight down the road and the steering was perfect. In both cases I ran an FJ60 power steering pump as I run an 87 2F engine with the mounting holes for factory PS.
The orange and white 73 I recently did up came with Sag steering mounted at the front of the frame rail. It was not a quality installation and turned right sharper than it could turn left. That was only an adjustment to the steering arm. The steering column, though, rubbed on the exhaust manifold (had a V8 in it). I decided to swap in a Scout box that had been on a rusty 55 I parted out. The install was easy, and it worked great. That setup used a Saginaw PS pump, the entire setup worked great. I cut a piece of 3/4 plate out, mocked it up to the frame with the box clamped in place, marked the holes for mounting the box and removed everything. Drilled and tapped the holes for the box then welded the plate onto te frame. Simple, strong, and safe. Instead of using a Ford shock tower we built a new one.
All in all I prefer a 60/62 box or a Scout Sag. I'm not a fan of the front mounted Sag boxes but there's thousands of them out there working fine, just have my preference. There's some pictures oif the Scout install on my build blurb-https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/back-in-the-saddle.738389/page-5. Gary S
 
shmukster said:
Boy I've had several different types of power steering on various 55's I've owned, driven daily and rode the trails with.The easiest way is to use a steering box from a solid axle 4Runner/truck. Using one of the readily available mounts makes this a bolt in installation- no mods needed to either the steering arm or the steering column. This is a good setup with up to 33" tires with any rubber bigger than that I'd do something else. The only real drawback about using the mini truck/4Runner box is that it retains the steering pivot.
On the orange and white truck in my avatar I ran a mini truck box until we sprung her over and went to 35's. At that time we installed an FJ62 box and got rid of the steering pivot in the front corner of the frame. Used Lke's high steer arms and steering arms and that truck was perfect. Good fell, went straight down the road and the steering was perfect. In both cases I ran an FJ60 power steering pump as I run an 87 2F engine with the mounting holes for factory PS.
The orange and white 73 I recently did up came with Sag steering mounted at the front of the frame rail. It was not a quality installation and turned right sharper than it could turn left. That was only an adjustment to the steering arm. The steering column, though, rubbed on the exhaust manifold (had a V8 in it). I decided to swap in a Scout box that had been on a rusty 55 I parted out. The install was easy, and it worked great. That setup used a Saginaw PS pump, the entire setup worked great. I cut a piece of 3/4 plate out, mocked it up to the frame with the box clamped in place, marked the holes for mounting the box and removed everything. Drilled and tapped the holes for the box then welded the plate onto te frame. Simple, strong, and safe. Instead of using a Ford shock tower we built a new one.
All in all I prefer a 60/62 box or a Scout Sag. I'm not a fan of the front mounted Sag boxes but there's thousands of them out there working fine, just have my preference. There's some pictures oif the Scout install on my build blurb-https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/back-in-the-saddle.738389/page-5. Gary S
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shmukster, I like the hoop set up in the pictures. Are they completely custom or did you modify an existing set up? Not sure I like the Ford Shock Towers at this point. Is that on a 55? It looks quite a bit different then a 40, not that I am an expert in anyway. If I put in a 60 steering box, do I have to change my steering wheel and column? Again, I think I have found 60 parts but want to be sure I get everything I need for the complete job.
 
The pictures with the hoop are on a 55 but the same concept applies to a 40. The hoop was made up but it would have been easier to use the Ford mounts. Lots of guys use them and they seem to fit and work just fine. Scrapdaddy is right- you'll have to modify your steering shaft no need to replace the column. Not as difficult as it might sound, as Flaming River and Borgeson make a variety of U-joints and adapters to make it relatively easy. Jegs and Summit also carry such parts. I'll be doing a 60 install in the very near future on my project 77 FJ40- will take pictures as I go to illustrate what needs done. Gary S
 
PabloCruise said:
I was recalling my 60 series PS setup on my Pig the other day. We did the F-250 shock mount, but in the end it required centering the shock mount on the axle housing, so we had to cut the old mounts and weld on new. Just FYI.
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Hey, thanks for the info. Do you have any pictures? Also, just was out in your neck of the woods so to speak in McCoy Co. Great place. I loved it.
 
shmukster said:
The pictures with the hoop are on a 55 but the same concept applies to a 40. The hoop was made up but it would have been easier to use the Ford mounts. Lots of guys use them and they seem to fit and work just fine. Scrapdaddy is right- you'll have to modify your steering shaft no need to replace the column. Not as difficult as it might sound, as Flaming River and Borgeson make a variety of U-joints and adapters to make it relatively easy. Jegs and Summit also carry such parts. I'll be doing a 60 install in the very near future on my project 77 FJ40- will take pictures as I go to illustrate what needs done. Gary S
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Gary, any pictures to share yet? I am not too psyched to take this on myself but it needs to be done and I can not afford to pay anyone else. Pictures would help me out lots, plus I am trying to compile a list of parts and it looks like it is beginning to mount up UGH! I just put on all new tie rod ends etc... so will now have to scrap those by the looks of things. Let me know.
 
I did some work on my rig that might help. I am crazy about pictures, they seem to help me the most. I chose a couple of rigs out there that I wanted to emulate and then went from there. Oh, it's under 'read body mounts' not sure what page tho.
 
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