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Q: Best engine upgrade for HJ60 (1 Viewer)
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not yet, anyway...
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If the choice stands between the 2H with a turbo, and finding a 12H-T, I'll stick with what I've got, if you have seen Tapage's videos on Youtube it seem's there is plenty of power there!
Even finding a good 12H-T isn't easy any more, for some reason all old TOYOTA diesels get's shipped to Egypt and the middle-east...
I know 2H w. turbo is not tha same, but research tells me that some think it's better, wether or not this is true doesn't really matter, it just goes to proof that 2H-T is not a lemon.
I am not looking for an engine that will carry me 300K+ which a renovated 12H-T would.
I dream of the 1HD-FTE, (btw. it's from 1998) but need to get a quote on the complete package, wiring ect...
And if you look at my project (link below) you'll see that I have some way to go before i need an engine.
Rick_d nice detail on the input shaft!
Even finding a good 12H-T isn't easy any more, for some reason all old TOYOTA diesels get's shipped to Egypt and the middle-east...
I know 2H w. turbo is not tha same, but research tells me that some think it's better, wether or not this is true doesn't really matter, it just goes to proof that 2H-T is not a lemon.
I am not looking for an engine that will carry me 300K+ which a renovated 12H-T would.
I dream of the 1HD-FTE, (btw. it's from 1998) but need to get a quote on the complete package, wiring ect...
And if you look at my project (link below) you'll see that I have some way to go before i need an engine.
Rick_d nice detail on the input shaft!
crushers
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because they are willing to pay for the older land cruisers no matter what km and what condition...so i have been told...
Tapage
Club 4X4 Panamá
I love my turboed 2H .. but definatelly never gonna run as direct injected engine .. now I run a extra electric pump to help my IP getting diesel from the tank throught my delphy filter and water separator ..
It run between 9 - 16PSI .. and with a totaly of 4 turns
to the IP seem to be in the ok range of diesel ..
I will try to take some vids this weekend .. pushing strong 10 PSI @ 2000rpm and 16 PSI @ 2800 rpm
But again .. nothing like direct injected diesel .. and If I compared my super lovely Tencha with Marilu .. the super turboed 2H have nothing to do ..
Still nice for a older IDI engine ..
It run between 9 - 16PSI .. and with a totaly of 4 turns
to the IP seem to be in the ok range of diesel .. I will try to take some vids this weekend .. pushing strong 10 PSI @ 2000rpm and 16 PSI @ 2800 rpm
But again .. nothing like direct injected diesel .. and If I compared my super lovely Tencha with Marilu .. the super turboed 2H have nothing to do ..
Still nice for a older IDI engine ..
Nobody has said this, perhaps because it is not common knowledge:
Even with the best two-tank system (Frybrid), a direct injected engine is inferior for WVO/SVO use. The spray pattern is very important for complete combustion and the higher viscosity fuel does not work as well. The VW TDI has this issue. The injection pump is the weakest component in most diesel vehicles, especially Chevys, when it comes to WVO/SVO.
This why the 2H (turbo'd) is superior to the 12 H-T for that specific fuel.
This is not relevant for this vehicle, but the principal reason why the OM617 (5-cylinder) Mercedes-Benz turbodiesel motor (and to a lesser extent the 4-cylinder OM616) is the favorite for WVO/SVO use.
If this is your target fuel, I would strongly recommend that you buy a diesel motor that is not direct injected.
Even with the best two-tank system (Frybrid), a direct injected engine is inferior for WVO/SVO use. The spray pattern is very important for complete combustion and the higher viscosity fuel does not work as well. The VW TDI has this issue. The injection pump is the weakest component in most diesel vehicles, especially Chevys, when it comes to WVO/SVO.
This why the 2H (turbo'd) is superior to the 12 H-T for that specific fuel.
This is not relevant for this vehicle, but the principal reason why the OM617 (5-cylinder) Mercedes-Benz turbodiesel motor (and to a lesser extent the 4-cylinder OM616) is the favorite for WVO/SVO use.
If this is your target fuel, I would strongly recommend that you buy a diesel motor that is not direct injected.
crushers
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nice to know... i have been thinking of trying this once in Ontario...
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Tofudebeest: I have actually looked at those two Merc engines. They are cheap to buy, cheap to run and cheap to maintain. But... not enough HP...
I would love to run WVO/SVO (veggie oil right?) it's cheaper and it could be fun to try...
I would love to run WVO/SVO (veggie oil right?) it's cheaper and it could be fun to try...
turbo a 1hz then. Modern engine still supported.
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I've just mailed the wrecker in Sweden to get an idea of the price for the 1HD-FTE including the ECU (it is called that right?) I hope it's in the 3.300$...
Had any of you seen or done a swap with a 1HD-FTE inot a 60? I've have searched a lot of threads, but no luck so far...
Had any of you seen or done a swap with a 1HD-FTE inot a 60? I've have searched a lot of threads, but no luck so far...
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seems like a good deal to me (if it runs well), don't you need the tranny too or are you swapping the imput shaft?
True, they are not powerful enough for a 60 series or heavier vehicle, but are strong enough in the vehicles they were installed in to give some scoot-scoot, except in the Gelandewagen (300GD), which is 5260 lbs., and they only got the naturally aspirated 5-cylinder diesel. Really doggish acceleration. Think an HJ60 is slow? It's a rocket compared to that G-wagen model.
WVO= waste vegetable oil (usually DIY) filtered and dewatered at home.
SVO= surplus/straight vegetable oil (virgin), requires no filtration.
Most commercially produced biodiesel started out as SVO before the transesterification process. Though it has been said too many times to count in this forum, biodiesel use requires NO vehicle conversion, except eventual upgrading soft fuel lines to viton or other biodiesel-compatable rubber-like material, as the old stuff swells, gets gummy, weeps and eventually leaks badly, but this process takes many months and you will know well in advance before changing them is really necessary. A very cheap DIY job. Some injection pump diaphragms and gaskets will need to be swapped out too. Some rubber fuel filler necks too.
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That is a good price for an FTE engine, but keep in mind that it is electronically controlled.
Call me up or email me when you need some parts for it.
The 12H-T would have been nice too, a real truck motor with nice sound
I have a US number, 1-510-931-6324 or direct to the office in Akashi at 81-078-923-3518
Here is the contact page, find the English and win a free balloon.
Keep in mind that Japan is on the other side of the planet, I sleep at night.
Call me up or email me when you need some parts for it.
The 12H-T would have been nice too, a real truck motor with nice sound
I have a US number, 1-510-931-6324 or direct to the office in Akashi at 81-078-923-3518
Here is the contact page, find the English and win a free balloon.
Keep in mind that Japan is on the other side of the planet, I sleep at night.
lowenbrau
SILVER Star
It turns out that rather than look all over the internet for that part I should have just looked on the dashboard.
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It turns out that rather than look all over the internet for that part I should have just looked on the dashboard.
LMAO!!
that is TOO funny...
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I used to drive that Geländewagen in the army, they are SERIOUSLY underpowered, and therefore accident-prown. They are so slow, that you want to brake as little as possible, så they crash in to things or flip over in turns... It doesn't help that the Danish army specified that they where delivered w/out powersteering
Thanx Japan4x4, i might just do that!
I am still reseaching the swap, it doesn't seems like it has been made that many times before...
Another thing is that I might need Toyotas aproval to get it certfied... might NOT be easy!
HZJ60 Guy
Tank Buster
Even if that's Euro's that's a fantastic price! Those engines (IF you can get them) are 10,000 grand plus around here....
i dunno what the price at ur place.
if me, i will convert to 1HD-T, i dunno which version, is stock is 12valve with turbo originally, not modified turbo, so i not so sure, i just how it look like 1hz, and originally turbo-ed.
that version even with standard or change a garrett turbo which series i dunno, but the measurement of fin i roughly know( compressor 53-75mm turbine 65-55mm with ar.48 or ar.58 will be rocking. in 12R tyre 15inch 10inch wide steel rim, when change to gear 3 the tyre still on sound. and the power was amazing , i dont think 12H-T can do that,
my car 12H-T standard turbo i boost to 2bar be4, i think the best is around 1.6 and the power is rock.. the problem is the fuel. hard to modify, even in standard tune on fuel system, its still cant compare to 1hd engine which come with fuel pump of 12head:whoops:
if me, i will convert to 1HD-T, i dunno which version, is stock is 12valve with turbo originally, not modified turbo, so i not so sure, i just how it look like 1hz, and originally turbo-ed.
that version even with standard or change a garrett turbo which series i dunno, but the measurement of fin i roughly know( compressor 53-75mm turbine 65-55mm with ar.48 or ar.58 will be rocking. in 12R tyre 15inch 10inch wide steel rim, when change to gear 3 the tyre still on sound. and the power was amazing , i dont think 12H-T can do that,
my car 12H-T standard turbo i boost to 2bar be4, i think the best is around 1.6 and the power is rock.. the problem is the fuel. hard to modify, even in standard tune on fuel system, its still cant compare to 1hd engine which come with fuel pump of 12head:whoops:
